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06-06-2012, 11:11 PM
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Schneider will NOT be starting next year for anybody else but Vancouver.
Thanks for the future telling. Hey can I get next weeks lotto max numbers too?

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06-06-2012, 11:12 PM
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What kind of player could "Stop gillis in his tracks".

Stamkos.

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Offer Sheet for Schneider ...

It has been brought forward just how successful these can be earlier in this thread.

One point I would like to review that has not specifically been mentioned is about GM BB and his track record in proffering an offer sheet. My case in point is the time Boston Bruins were in salary cap trouble and he had targeted Phil Kessel. Rather than go the offer sheet route he made the trade at full market value to get his guy. It is this history that makes me feel it is unlikely that he will go rogue and offer sheet Cory Schneider.

As well, by breaking the unwritten code you make it fair game to have your teams assets offer sheeted in the future.

Offer sheets rarely result in a player trading teams and more often than not just adds to the inflationary pressures to all NHL comparables, which in the end hurts the small market teams.

Players who recently could have been offersheeted but were not include.... Drew Doughty and Steven Stamkos.


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06-06-2012, 11:23 PM
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i love/hate this thread.

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How would an offer sheet get Cory Schneider? Canucks would match any offer short of 4 1st rounders. They wont let him walk for a 1st and a 3rd.

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06-06-2012, 11:58 PM
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How would an offer sheet get Cory Schneider? Canucks would match any offer short of 4 1st rounders. They wont let him walk for a 1st and a 3rd.
I said I would send him a sheet for 5.5/6 years. Compensation would be 1st, 2nd, and a third.

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Source says that knowing Burke, he will try to top Columbus offer for Schneider

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Yzerman obviously also in on Schneider but will be more stingy than Burke and Howson. Hedman and 1st rd picks out of the question

Anyone know of this guy?

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Offer Sheet for Schneider ...

It has been brought forward just how successful these can be earlier in this thread.

One point I would like to review that has not specifically been mentioned is about GM BB and his track record in proffering an offer sheet. My case in point is the time Boston Bruins were in salary cap trouble and he had targeted Phil Kessel. Rather than go the offer sheet route he made the trade at full market value to get his guy. It is this history that makes me feel it is unlikely that he will go rogue and offer sheet Cory Schneider.

As well, by breaking the unwritten code you make it fair game to have your teams assets offer sheeted in the future.

Offer sheets rarely result in a player trading teams and more often than not just adds to the inflationary pressures to all NHL comparables, which in the end hurts the small market teams.

Players who recently could have been offersheeted but were not include.... Drew Doughty and Steven Stamkos.
Players could have been sent offersheets and we would never know unless they accepted.

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i love/hate this thread.
Its like I hate reading it but yet I cant stop coming back for more

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Players who recently could have been offersheeted but were not include.... Drew Doughty and Steven Stamkos.
Well, we know they didn't sign any offer sheet. We don't know if they were offered any, however.

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06-07-2012, 12:03 AM
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Its like I hate reading it but yet I cant stop coming back for more
Yep, it's like trying not to look at a train wreck, isn't it?

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06-07-2012, 12:04 AM
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Source says that knowing Burke, he will try to top Columbus offer for Schneider

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Yzerman obviously also in on Schneider but will be more stingy than Burke and Howson. Hedman and 1st rd picks out of the question

Anyone know of this guy?
This guy sounds like an idiot about that. Moving Hedman would never happened ever. If it was for Schneider I can easily see SFY moving Connolly + 10th for Schneider. Schneider fits the Yzerplan perfectly.

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People saying that Schneider will be offer sheeted are wasting their time

I can almost guarantee that Schneider will be re-signed before July 1st

If he isn't offer sheets are so rare. Nobody offer sheeted Stamkos or Doughty last year when they weren't signed

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Yzerman obviously also in on Schneider but will be more stingy than Burke and Howson. Hedman and 1st rd picks out of the question
Play-pretending for a moment that this guy is in any way reliable, it's not exactly a scoop that Hedman's out of the question. I would be surprised, however, if Yzerman refused to cough up one of our two first rounders for Schneider. I'm sure he'd prefer to deal Detroit's, but I would think he'd part with one of them.

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If he isn't offer sheets are so rare. Nobody offer sheeted Stamkos or Doughty last year when they weren't signed
Again, we don't know that. Information regarding offer sheets tendered isn't released, only about offer sheets that are signed.

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06-07-2012, 12:11 AM
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Again, we don't know that. Information regarding offer sheets tendered isn't released, only about offer sheets that are signed.
I wonder how many times ^this can be said before it sinks in.

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06-07-2012, 12:47 AM
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10+ in goaltending isn't going to happen.

2005 Averaged Salary Current Averaged Salary[10] Draft Pick Compensation
$1,020,348 and below No compensation
$1,020,348 to $1,545,981 Third-round pick
$1,545,981 to $3,091,963 Second-round pick
$3,091,963 to $4,637,944 First- and third-round pick
$4,637,944 to $6,183,925 First-, second-, and third-round pick
$6,183,925 to $7,729,907 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick
$7,729,907 and above Four first-round picks
Your numbers here are a bit dated. Not a massive number but here is the most recent compensation numbers.

$1,034,249 annual cap hit or less: No compensation
$1,034,249 $1,567,043: Third-round pick
$1,567,043 $3,134,088: Second-round pick
$3,134,088 $4,701,131: First and third-round pick
$4,701,131 $6,268,175: First, second and third-round pick
$6,268,175 $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third
$7,835,219 and higher: Four first-round picks


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How would an offer sheet get Cory Schneider? Canucks would match any offer short of 4 1st rounders. They wont let him walk for a 1st and a 3rd.
I would very much doubt the Canucks match anything over 6mil. Heck anything over 5 mil would be a stretch with the uncertainty of the CBA.

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I love how people on these boards casually talk about offer sheets, and like they happen all the time. Look at past history, it RARELY happens, so stop acting like every RFA will get a huge offer sheet thrown at them. The chances of Schneider getting offer sheeted are very very slim.
if he chooses not to go to arbitration ....

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Again, we don't know that. Information regarding offer sheets tendered isn't released, only about offer sheets that are signed.
yup. it gives the player the knowledge of market value and his options as much as UFA status.

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Would love to somehow parlay Schneider into Yakupov.

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Would love to somehow parlay Schneider into Yakupov.
Me too. But if it requires Schneider to go to Edmonton, theres no way I make that trade. To Columbus and then flipping the 2nd + I could live with.

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The Canucks would not let Schneider go for an offer sheet reasonable enough for a team to make. Not if it's $5, 6M, no way. For some teams' late first?? Lmao. So pointless to talk about

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The Canucks would not let Schneider go for an offer sheet reasonable enough for a team to make. Not if it's $5, 6M, no way. For some teams' late first?? Lmao. So pointless to talk about
I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Are you saying Van would match any offersheet at 4.7-6.2 million? Or if it is at that range they won't?

Between Columbus, Tampa, and Toronto there is a lot of cap room. All the teams Have enough room to offersheet Schneider up to 6.2 million. The compensation at that point is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. All of which have to be your own picks, not ones you have traded for.

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I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Are you saying Van would match any offersheet at 4.7-6.2 million? Or if it is at that range they won't?

Between Columbus, Tampa, and Toronto there is a lot of cap room. All the teams Have enough room to offersheet Schneider up to 6.2 million. The compensation at that point is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. All of which have to be your own picks, not ones you have traded for.
The Canucks would match ANY offer that didn't equal a compensation of 4 first round draft picks. It's not rocket science...

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This is either the media over hyping, or some kind of game going on between the GM's. Vancouver is not the most cap friendly team in the NHL. They have Luongo who is a pretty good goalie on a contract that is not as good. And now Schneider who is a RFA.

By this news swirling that a "potential" offer sheet" could be coming in for Schneider it actually forces the GM's hand a bit. The Canucks can not afford to have to 5-6 million dollar goalies. No team can if they want to be competitive. This could encourage the price to drop on Luongo (the likely goalie they will toss this year).

If the GM feels the Luongo offers are not good enough he will have the choice to match a fairly big offer on Schneider at which point his hands would be completely tied and he would likely have to give luongo away for next to nothing.

In reality if this is true it is quite a smart ploy by whoever orchestrated it.

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