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12-24-2004, 11:48 AM
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McCabe rips Bettman on BOG meeting

12/23/2004

Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman and Players' Association representative Bryan McCabe was among the first to offer his thoughts on news that National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman was holding a board of governors meeting Jan. 14.

"Do they really need a meeting?" McCabe told the Toronto Sun hours after the news. "I mean, Gary's been poised to throw away (this) season for the past five years. I think he's known this was going to happen for a long time now."

McCabe didn't hold back from there, adding that the commissioner knew nothing about hockey.

"He's a basketball guy," McCabe told the Sun. "If he bumped into me on the street, he wouldn't know me. You could probably say that if he bumped into 95 per cent of the league."

The NHL salvaged a 48-game season during the last lockout 10 years ago after both sides reached an agreement Jan. 11. The work stoppage lasted 103 days, while this lockout is just four days shy of that time frame.

Bettman does not need an official vote from the board to cancel the season, just as he didn't need it when he triggered the lockout. But he would need its approval - and establishing a potential drop-dead date on the season also serves to put pressure on the union.

Should the season be called off, the NHL would become the first of the four major pro leagues in North America to cancel a full season.

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McCabe is a moron.

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McCabe is a moron.
Bettman is.

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Bettman is.

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Bettman is.
Bettman is doing his job. If McCabe doesnt like it find another profession.

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Bettman is doing his job. If McCabe doesnt like it find another profession.
How does that make any sense?

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How does that make any sense?
It doesn't.
Good for McCabe and anyone else willing to dare give honest opinions in this sea of lies.

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How does that make any sense?
All the players ever do is BASH Bettman. Saying he wants to lose the season blah blah

The players act like Bettman refused their offer because he wants to cancel the season. Meanwhile Goodenow refused the Owners offer and none of the players talked about the Union wanting to cancel the season.

McCabe is a ****** anyway. He made a comment like 3 million is like welfare to hockey players or something along the lines.

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All the players ever do is BASH Bettman. Saying he wants to lose the season blah blah

The players act like Bettman refused their offer because he wants to cancel the season. Meanwhile Goodenow refused the Owners offer and none of the players talked about the Union wanting to cancel the season.

McCabe is a ****** anyway. He made a comment like 3 million is like welfare to hockey players or something along the lines.
I was about to say McCabe needs to keep his mouth shut until you came up with the "find another profession" comment... which makes absolutely no sense.

But, I do think these players need to shut their yaps... atleast I'm getting sick of them. If they want to whine, go ahead... it's a free country, but I personally don't care for them. They've been vastly overpaid over the years and the game's not getting any better.

Bettman needs to do his job, I think he's doing a fine job... as long as he gets off the salary cap or nothing stance.

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I was about to say McCabe needs to keep his mouth shut until you came up with the "find another profession" comment... which makes absolutely no sense.

But, I do think these players need to shut their yaps... atleast I'm getting sick of them. If they want to whine, go ahead... it's a free country, but I personally don't care for them. They've been vastly overpaid over the years and the game's not getting any better.

Bettman needs to do his job, I think he's doing a fine job... as long as he gets off the salary cap or nothing stance.
I am neutral, im not in favour of the players or the owners, but a lot of these Players are looking quite bad bad mouthing the owners (who pay their hefty salaries) and Bettman.

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I'm not even going to read what he said, McCabe has made a complete *** of himself with his comments since the CBA expired, odds are now that he's back in Canada he'll be back to whining incessantly.

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Damphousse convinced season is gone

12/23/2004

Colorado Avalanche centre and NHLPA Executive Committee member Vincent Damphousse is convinced that the National Hockey League is going to cancel the 2004-2005 season.

The 16-year NHL veteran voiced his opinions to Montreal's La Presse newspaper shortly after news broke that Commissioner Gary Bettman was holding a board of governors meeting Jan. 14.

"I am convinced that there will not be a season," said Damphousse. "Simply put, it's not one minute left before midnight - it is midnight."

We "NHLPA" have known for some time that Bettman's motives have been clear from the start, and that is PAYBACK ... Getting his name in the record books as the only professional sports league to cancel a season, is more important to him than what the fans want and deserve...

Damphousse also assured that it won't be long before the Players' Association hold its own meeting.

"We will meet another time, but not to prepare a new proposal", said Damphousse


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McCabe is the perfect spokesperson for the NHLPA.

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Look for comments like these to become more frequent as we near mid-jan.

Everyone is trying to put the pressure on the other guy. Too bad they're resorting to such childish tactics. Trying to rally the fans against the NHL, gain support or put all the blame on the owners just doesn't impress me enough to change my view on ths subject. If anything it turns me off.

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Good for McCabe.

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All the players ever do is BASH Bettman. Saying he wants to lose the season blah blah

The players act like Bettman refused their offer because he wants to cancel the season. Meanwhile Goodenow refused the Owners offer and none of the players talked about the Union wanting to cancel the season.

McCabe is a ****** anyway. He made a comment like 3 million is like welfare to hockey players or something along the lines.
Goodenow rejected the Owner's offer because it was effectively "We like the stuff you're willing to give us, but we want everything in our favor."

Tell me, do you think it's fair that Bettman keeps saying he wants "cost certainty" and "revenue sharing", but when asked how he plans on implementing it, he says "The owners will negotiate it later."

Who the hell signs a deal before they know all the details? That's what Bettman is asking the NHLPA to do.

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the majority of fans already side with the owners. the players are just pushing more fans to the owners side every time they open their mouths

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Good for McCabe for speaking out!

Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion

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And my opinion is that our glorious game is being ruined by idiots on both sides of the question. Owners and players alike are not working hard enough to resolve this lockout and get back on the ice. They glide through days and weeks and now months without any effort to come to a resolution that would permit the owners to make a profit, the players to earn a competitive wage, and the fans to watch a hockey game instead of a movie. We all know there is a solution out there (I don't have enough facts to propose myself as arbitrator) that is fair for both sides. The people in charge of getting there are holding out for an advantageous solution for themselves at the expense of the others. Meanwhile office personnel and ticket takers and parking lot attendents are out of a job.

A pox on both houses.

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The people in charge of getting there are holding out for an advantageous solution for themselves at the expense of the others.
If by others you mean fans i agree completely.

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If by others you mean fans i agree completely.

Fans and all others hurt by the lockout such as office workers, ticket takers, concession workers etc etc

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Goodenow rejected the Owner's offer because it was effectively "We like the stuff you're willing to give us, but we want everything in our favor."

Tell me, do you think it's fair that Bettman keeps saying he wants "cost certainty" and "revenue sharing", but when asked how he plans on implementing it, he says "The owners will negotiate it later."

Who the hell signs a deal before they know all the details? That's what Bettman is asking the NHLPA to do.
Like i said i am not on either side. But the players act like Bettman wants to cancel the season.

For some reason the players cant get it through their minds that Bettman wants to fix the system and doesnt care if the season is lost. Players are heard saying "he WANTS to cancel the season"

Newsflash boys, he doesnt want to, but if you dont sign his deal than he will.

Like I said, I am neutral on this subject, but when the players start spouting off useless junk it pisses me off.

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Goodenow rejected the Owner's offer because it was effectively "We like the stuff you're willing to give us, but we want everything in our favor."

Tell me, do you think it's fair that Bettman keeps saying he wants "cost certainty" and "revenue sharing", but when asked how he plans on implementing it, he says "The owners will negotiate it later."

Who the hell signs a deal before they know all the details? That's what Bettman is asking the NHLPA to do.
Ofcourse it makes sense.

Cost certainty in itself is a concept. It does not become a reality until it is negotiated in full and agreed upon by both parties.

What Bettman is saying is that if the PA does not embrace the even the concept of cost certainty then their is no reason to proceed.

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Ofcourse it makes sense.

Cost certainty in itself is a concept. It does not become a reality until it is negotiated in full and agreed upon by both parties.

What Bettman is saying is that if the PA does not embrace the even the concept of cost certainty then their is no reason to proceed.
The problem is the PA has embraced the concept of cost certainty. However, Bettman insists his way is the only proper way, and he continues to refuse to give out any details at all. He wants the PA's signature on the deal before the details are finalized.

I don't know about you, but I would never sign a deal in which the details are not finalized.

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The problem is the PA has embraced the concept of cost certainty. However, Bettman insists his way is the only proper way, and he continues to refuse to give out any details at all. He wants the PA's signature on the deal before the details are finalized.

I don't know about you, but I would never sign a deal in which the details are not finalized.
At which point did the PA say they would except a cap?

As I said, they are attempting to re-create an entire system. There are many details to be ironed out, all of which must be negotiated by both parties.

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