HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2012 NHL Entry Draft Talk Part 16 : One week left!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-11-2012, 10:41 AM
  #351
patsbury
Registered User
 
patsbury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal or Drummond
Country: Canada
Posts: 967
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeroknowledge View Post
I'd take Mcdonaugh at 3.
Easier said now than at draft day in 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsRock View Post
Dont The Habs already have a version of Gally though? A 2 way center that can put up 65-70 points? does pleks ring any bells???
I was also high on Galchenyuk, until I realized the same thing as you. On the plus side, Galchenyuk is bigger and has better hands. It wouldn't be a bad pick anyway

Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsRock View Post
how are they not comparable??

Gally is alittle bigger but IMO they are very compareable players. Both are best fit for the 2nd center role, Which we have already. in fact we have 3-4 guys that are best fit for the 2nd center role.
Quote for truth!

Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsRock View Post
If you are really looking for a 6`4 230lbs monster of a center, IMO you take Grigo and hope he matures into Malkin lite.....
I am, for my part, not willing to take that bet!

Habs should try to land 1st overall and land Yakupov. It wouldn't cost us much (1st 2012+ 2nd 2012 or 2013) and the guy has Stamkos 2.0 printed all over himself (comparison is fair and I'm aware he might not put as much goals/points in NHL). Time to draft a homerun highly touted sniper forward

patsbury is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:42 AM
  #352
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 17,671
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs 4 Life View Post
So were back to Grigorenko now?
No, it's the same people. In fact everything has been the same arguments over and over again.

Et le But is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:44 AM
  #353
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 33,072
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
No, it's the same people. In fact everything has been the same arguments over and over again.
Can't wait for next Friday, some will be happy some will be pissed no matter what I guess

Habs 4 Life is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:46 AM
  #354
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 17,671
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs 4 Life View Post
Can't wait for next Friday, some will be happy some will be pissed no matter what I guess
Yeah, at this point I just want to get it over with. Even if they pick someone I'm skeptical about, like Grigorenko, it still means the best prospect we have had in years.

In other news, Craig Button's new list is out, random as always
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

In Button's world, Grigorenko is just ahead of Tom Wilson as a prospect.

Et le But is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:47 AM
  #355
Habster33
In Habs we trust!
 
Habster33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 330
vCash: 500
For what it's worth, on the ESPN website site under Rumors, then mentionned that Habs may not want the No. 3 pick.

That's pretty interesting!!

ESPN

Habster33 is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:49 AM
  #356
CHfan1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sherwood Park, Ab
Posts: 268
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by patsbury View Post
Easier said now than at draft day in 2007



I was also high on Galchenyuk, until I realized the same thing as you. On the plus side, Galchenyuk is bigger and has better hands. It wouldn't be a bad pick anyway



Quote for truth!



I am, for my part, not willing to take that bet!

Habs should try to land 1st overall and land Yakupov. It wouldn't cost us much (1st 2012+ 2nd 2012 or 2013) and the guy has Stamkos 2.0 printed all over himself (comparison is fair and I'm aware he might not put as much goals/points in NHL). Time to draft a homerun highly touted sniper forward
No way does that give Montreal the 1st overall, Montreal would have to add more, like a Tinordi, or Edmonton might even ask for Subban, which is a no in my mind.

CHfan1 is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:49 AM
  #357
PyrettaBlaze*
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,264
vCash: 500
Craig Button's strange list (June 11th):

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

PyrettaBlaze* is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:50 AM
  #358
gillyguzzler
Registered User
 
gillyguzzler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,749
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabba11 View Post
Very interesting article about the Oilers:
http://www2.canada.com/story.html?id=6721019
By the looks of it, Murray is going 1st or 2nd.

Yakupov may be available at #3.

If Edmonton takes Murray, will Columbus also opt for a defenseman? Dumba maybe?

gillyguzzler is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:53 AM
  #359
Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
 
Habs 4 Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal
Country: Italy
Posts: 33,072
vCash: 500
And that's why Button will never be a GM in the NHL ever again

Habs 4 Life is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:57 AM
  #360
Killerguitar101*
 
Join Date: May 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 468
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Killerguitar101*
Forsberg and Galchenyuk are going to be way better than Plekanec. WTF are you guyhs talking about? Plekanec can put up 65-70pts a year twice in 5 years, not on a regular basis. Typical 2nd centreman. The first line centreman, whoever his wingers are, is going to notch at least 60 points a year.

Killerguitar101* is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 10:58 AM
  #361
hogtownhabsfan*
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,727
vCash: 500
If Yakupov fell into our laps, wow.

hogtownhabsfan* is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:01 AM
  #362
Saopolo123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 58
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrettaBlaze View Post
Craig Button's strange list (June 11th):

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649
Grigorenko at 20 ?
What a joke.

Saopolo123 is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:01 AM
  #363
MTL-rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 6,237
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsRock View Post
Dont The Habs already have a version of Gally though? A 2 way center that can put up 65-70 points? does pleks ring any bells???


If you want a big center who can really be something we dont have, you have to go with Grigs IMO.

My current wish list
Murray
Grigs
Forsberg
Yakupov is my list... Man, if he could fall to 3rd, it'd be perfect...

The rest, I don't really care, they're all interesting prospects with question marks about health, upside and grit.

... but I don't want a defenceman.

MTL-rules is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:06 AM
  #364
hockeyman*
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 305
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrettaBlaze View Post
Craig Button's strange list (June 11th):

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649
I think Maggie the monkey would make a more sensical list then that.

hockeyman* is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:10 AM
  #365
Saopolo123
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 58
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTL-rules View Post
Yakupov is my list... Man, if he could fall to 3rd, it'd be perfect...

The rest, I don't really care, they're all interesting prospects with question marks about health, upside and grit.

... but I don't want a defenceman.
You never have too much defencemen but like you say, you can't passe on one of offensive star talent like Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Grigs, Forsberg, Teuvo.

Personally I think this draft would be a great offensive reload for the team.

Saopolo123 is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:11 AM
  #366
rockjngo
Registered User
 
rockjngo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,187
vCash: 500
Imagine Timmins takes Matt Dumba while Grigorenko, Galchenyuk and Forsberg are still on the table. This board would go crazy.

rockjngo is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:21 AM
  #367
Freaky Habs Fan
Registered User
 
Freaky Habs Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: New-Brunswick
Posts: 9,504
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnforcerWeNeed View Post
Forsberg and Galchenyuk are going to be way better than Plekanec. WTF are you guyhs talking about? Plekanec can put up 65-70pts a year twice in 5 years, not on a regular basis. Typical 2nd centreman. The first line centreman, whoever his wingers are, is going to notch at least 60 points a year.
They both have the potential to be better, but it's not a sure thing. Plekanec is a very good player and if we draft someone who'll be as good, we'll be very happy. If we draft someone who'll be better, it will be a home run.

Freaky Habs Fan is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:25 AM
  #368
JGRB
#EllerThugLife
 
JGRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,659
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockjngo View Post
Imagine Timmins takes Matt Dumba while Grigorenko, Galchenyuk and Forsberg are still on the table. This board would go crazy.
Most people would give Timmins the benefit of the doubt, IMO. You'll have a handful of guys that will bash the move, prop up "their" guy anytime he has a good game.

And be completely silent when Dumba turns out as good as Timmins thinks. It's how it generally works around here.

I still think it ends up being one of Galchenyuk or Forsberg. Yakupov if he somehow falls, but I don't see it.

JGRB is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:27 AM
  #369
getyourselfsomerest
Registered User
 
getyourselfsomerest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,125
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Subban76 View Post
Gally as nothing in common with Plecks....nothing. Plecks wishes to have half of Gally's offensive abilities...

FYI, many people see Gally's offensive side as strong as Grigo...
Who? Craig Button?

getyourselfsomerest is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:39 AM
  #370
Roulin
Registered User
 
Roulin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 4,242
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockjngo View Post
Imagine Timmins takes Matt Dumba while Grigorenko, Galchenyuk and Forsberg are still on the table. This board would go crazy.
IMO that's not so far fetched. Dumba was great at the u18 tourney, and almost made the u20 team despite his July 94 birthday.

Roulin is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:39 AM
  #371
IceDaddy
24 and Counting
 
IceDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,878
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Subban76 View Post
Gally as nothing in common with Plecks....nothing. Plecks wishes to have half of Gally's offensive abilities...

FYI, many people see Gally's offensive side as strong as Grigo...

With all the thing I have read about the draft and all the top prospects I have never read that once that I can recall. Grigo has dropped cause a few people have concerns about his compete level. but pure offense, grigo is better and no one has said different.

IceDaddy is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:41 AM
  #372
Teufelsdreck
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 14,303
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHfan1 View Post
No way does that give Montreal the 1st overall, Montreal would have to add more, like a Tinordi, or Edmonton might even ask for Subban, which is a no in my mind.
I agree, if Edmonton ever considered trading down there would be a bidding war, and the cost of acquiring Yakupov would be steep. While the Habs have a good bidding chip in their #3 pick, they probably couldn't put together the rest of the package without bleeding themselves to death. Even our #3 could be trumped by Columbus, which has the #2. The Blue Jackets could generate more by trading Nash and dumping the return into the pot.

Teufelsdreck is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:42 AM
  #373
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 17,671
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by getyourselfsomerest View Post
Who? Craig Button?
Even Corey Pronman, a huge Grigorenko fan (he is the one guy who still has Grigo second) who tends to discount intangibles (he didn't like Landeskog, he underrated jack of all trade types IMO) considers Galchenyuk a highly skilled player. In fact according to him, it's Yakupov, Grigorenko, Galchenyuk then a gap before Forsberg in 4th.

There's still the risk of missing a year of development but Galchenyuk isn't far off Grigorenko in skill, and was (and probably still is) a better skater. He won't slow the game down and playmak as well as Grigo does, but he's more explosive.

Et le But is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:42 AM
  #374
FisherKing
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New Brunswick
Posts: 1,267
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JGRB View Post
Most people would give Timmins the benefit of the doubt, IMO. You'll have a handful of guys that will bash the move, prop up "their" guy anytime he has a good game.

And be completely silent when Dumba turns out as good as Timmins thinks. It's how it generally works around here.

I still think it ends up being one of Galchenyuk or Forsberg. Yakupov if he somehow falls, but I don't see it.
It would get really interesting around here if Yakupov dropped to 3rd and Timmins picked Grigorenko.

FisherKing is offline  
Old
06-11-2012, 11:44 AM
  #375
IceDaddy
24 and Counting
 
IceDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,878
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockjngo View Post
Imagine Timmins takes Matt Dumba while Grigorenko, Galchenyuk and Forsberg are still on the table. This board would go crazy.

All the prospects have thier fan boys.

I will give Timmins the benefit of the doubt. He will take who he feels is the BPA

IceDaddy is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:53 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.