Watch out for Grégoire in Chicoutimi this year. Reminds me a lot of Patrice Bergeron, kid might not be as touted as the names above, but he's gonna be good.
You're a good ole' Sherbrooke guy huh? I am too. I played with Jeremy Grégoire a few years back.
2013 is too deep to trade away our first, it's a ridiculously bad idea. Especially when we're coming off a 3rd last finish. It doesn't matter where you *think* we'll finish, bryan burke didn't think his first rounders would end up being that high, either.
Agreed. It is a stupid stupid risk. Injuries, (especially to Price) bad luck, slumps. Yes if everything goes right and we pick up 2 good UFA we could end up in the PO, but there is a big chance we end up 13-15 in our conf again, with a top 5 pick.
A move like that could get Bergy fired. I'm amazed Burke was not fired. Kessel saved his ass this year.
Anyone else get the feeling that passing on Grigorenko because of his no show in the playoffs is a bad idea? His attitude in every interview has been great, and I think his skills and size would be stupid to pass on. He said himself he is dedicated to improving everyday and I believe it. Pretty impressive that he learned english so quickly and dominated the league in his first year here..
IMO he has better hockey IQ,vision,playmaking ability,puck control than Galchenyuk.. they both have a great shot. All of Galchenyuk's advantages (strength,work ethic,skating,two way play) can all be taught. 3rd overall I'd go for the homerun swing with Grigo. He was too good before the ankle injury / mono to pass on.
Also re:Galchenyuk.. I wish he wasn't on the same team as Yakupov. We've seen Yakupov play this year without Galchenyuk, but is Gally just as good without Nail? Yes they did play on the same line most of the time I watched them.
Good post. I've not given up on Grigs either, and I trust Timmins to choose between him and gals, if that is the choice. . He may well have to make that choice if Columbus does not pick either of them.
In a way I like that Grigs is getting neg press. TT is a smart guy and if he likes Grigs, he'll keep letting the press say **** things about him.
This is ****ing fun! 2 years of drafting top 5 would be OK with me, it's pretty cool to talk about the best players in the draft for once.
After that though I hope the Habs are drafting 20th and worse for a while...
With all these talks of trades on draft day, can anyone tell me, how long does a team have to make their pick? Is there a time limit?
Was wondering the same thing. Probably not that long, but I imagine TT has the list, and has mapped out all scenarios.
Thus he just needs to make the offer in his scenario.
Problem is the other team(s) would need time to react, and they may not act rationally.
There's probably a lot of stupid panic on the day, and blown opportunities.
Last season was a complete disaster and we still only finished 3rd last. The pick will be around 10 at worst, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if we are back to our finishing 8th and winning a round in the playoffs ways...
All of you guys saying we finish top 20 are probably correct. However, unlike for the top 6 teams in the NHL there exists a chance we finish 25th or worse. It that that chance exists, you do not trade your first.
Regardless, even if we finish out of the play-offs, the players available to us in the top end of the draft are very attractive. Not to mention we have more then enough ammuniition to trade up.
Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, Shinkaruk and Barkov. If we trade away a chance at any of those guys, its suicidal.
That's already very strong, and there will be 5 more who come out of the woodwork this year.
Anyone else get the feeling that passing on Grigorenko because of his no show in the playoffs is a bad idea? His attitude in every interview has been great, and I think his skills and size would be stupid to pass on. He said himself he is dedicated to improving everyday and I believe it. Pretty impressive that he learned english so quickly and dominated the league in his first year here..
IMO he has better hockey IQ,vision,playmaking ability,puck control than Galchenyuk.. they both have a great shot. All of Galchenyuk's advantages (strength,work ethic,skating,two way play) can all be taught. 3rd overall I'd go for the homerun swing with Grigo. He was too good before the ankle injury / mono to pass on.
Also re:Galchenyuk.. I wish he wasn't on the same team as Yakupov. We've seen Yakupov play this year without Galchenyuk, but is Gally just as good without Nail? Yes they did play on the same line most of the time I watched them.
Thats where your wrong, that can't be taught, it falls under the heart category. You have it, or you don't have it.
Thats where your wrong, that can't be taught, it falls under the heart category. You have it, or you don't have it.
The same can also be said of talent or something like on-ice vision. You either have it or you don't. Now I don't know how accurate these "work ethic" concerns are. There can be a lot of reasons for a player to not play at 100% all the time. First time living alone overseas, getting used to your new body frame, injuries, mono, all of those at the same time. Besides, even if he does have work ethic issues, people can easily be inspired to work harder and take their job more seriously, it's called maturing.
The same can also be said of talent or something like on-ice vision. You either have it or you don't. Now I don't know how accurate these "work ethic" concerns are. There can be a lot of reasons for a player to not play at 100% all the time. First time living alone overseas, getting used to your new body frame, injuries, mono, all of those at the same time. Besides, even if he does have work ethic issues, people can easily be inspired to work harder and take their job more seriously, it's called maturing.
The thing is, 9 times out of 10 when work ethic, heart are questioned it turns out to be a major issue, and into a under achieving talent.
Grigs maybe a high risk, high reward, but not at #3, not even at #10 in my opinion.
He is a gamble, this pick isn't a usual pick, and we can't gamle.
If you read the article I've posted, even Paul Coffey told Edmonton direction that they should pick the defensemen.
Hum yes well how is that related to Howson and the Blue Jackets? Unless Howson declared in public that he would pick Ryan Murray if he's available, that quote from the article is the writer's opinion. Not reliable. Otherwise, we can start cheering for Yakupov or Galchenyuk
IMO he has better hockey IQ,vision,playmaking ability,puck control than Galchenyuk.. they both have a great shot. All of Galchenyuk's advantages (strength,work ethic,skating,two way play) can all be taught. 3rd overall I'd go for the homerun swing with Grigo. He was too good before the ankle injury / mono to pass on.
You could take the name Grigorenko out of that statement & insert Andrei Kostitsyn name & you have the same description of Andrei weeks leading up to his draft day.
At the time he was touted as a top three pick, but his health issues scared teams off.
Now as for trading next years pick, I personally would be more inclined to dangle this years 3rd overall under Columbus' nose for their 1st rder next season. It may be somewhat enticing for them to be able to pick 2nd & 3rd overall this year.
You could take the name Grigorenko out of that statement & insert Andrei Kostitsyn name & you have the same description of Andrei weeks leading up to his draft day.
At the time he was touted as a top three pick, but his health issues scared teams off.
Or Galchenyuk too really... Am I the only one scared that he just missed an entire season or does he get a free pass because he's not completely russian?
