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More afraid to take a hit-- Whitney~'08 or Martin '12

View Poll Results: Who was more afraid to take a hit to make a play?
Ryan Whitney 11 28.21%
Paul Martin 28 71.79%
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06-08-2012, 05:33 PM
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More afraid to take a hit-- Whitney~'08 or Martin '12

fairly straightforward question, which player do you think was more reluctant to take a hit to make a play in their own zone?

i can recall several instances right before ryan whitney was traded where he made ridiculous passes right to an opposition forward in a prime scoring area, in an effort to avoid getting hit by a forechecker. real cringe-worthy incidents where you just threw something at the tv.

but this season, as the year went on, we witnessed paul martin frequently get beat to lose pucks, seemingly to avoid contact. his errors perhaps weren't as blatantly obvious as whitney's, but they may have occurred more often.

please keep in mind i'm asking about both players when they were at their "softest," not over the duration of their careers.

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06-08-2012, 05:39 PM
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Martin, guy is soft.

I remember one specific play during the Philly series, a Flyer was on the board getting the puck and Paul Martin had a chance to completely flatten him out, but instead he skated up to the player, put his arm on his shoulder and tried to poke the puck loose.

It was that play, where I thought he needed traded, when we're in an intense playoff series against your most hated rival, you need to be physcial, not soft.

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Martin...AINEC..lol

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06-08-2012, 05:50 PM
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Martin.... At least Whits beat up Redden.

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Martin = scoop of whipped cream
Whitney = stick of warm butter

I just hope Shero can trade Martin so I don't have to think about either for a long time.

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06-08-2012, 05:56 PM
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Whitney at least had a frame on him. That playoff series against the Rags...he was pretty physical.

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06-08-2012, 05:58 PM
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Whitney at least had a frame on him. That playoff series against the Rags...he was pretty physical.
Yeah...I'm not sure why PM doesn't want to put a few pounds on. I mean he doesn't have to be built like a brick-****-house, but 10-15 pounds of muscle would probably serve him well.

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06-08-2012, 05:59 PM
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Martin, guy is soff.

I remember one specific play during the Philly series, a Flyer was on the board getting the puck and Paul Martin had a chance to completely flatten him out, but instead he skated up to the player, put his arm on his shoulder and tried to poke the puck loose.

It was that play, where I thought he needed traded, when we're in an intense playoff series against your most hated rival, you need to be physcial, not soff.
I fixed it for you.

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06-08-2012, 06:25 PM
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You're asking me to compare pancakes with giggle drops on them, to fluffy scrambled eggs. This is not fair. Where is the "both are softer than a cuddly basket full of linens and puppies" option? But if you force me to pick... I will pick Martin. Because he is undersized and soff vs. big and soff. More of a liability, however, maybe not as shameful.

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Whitney being soft bothered me more because he had the frame to play a much more physical game. Him being soft was because that was his mentality. Martin just has his physical limitations.

I will also never forget the play where Eric Staal touched Ryan Whitney's head and Whits laid there like a dying man behind the net as Eric Staal stepped out to the front of the net to score the GWG. I have never seen a softer, more embarrassing defensive play in my life.

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Whitney being soft bothered me more because he had the frame to play a much more physical game. Him being soft was because that was his mentality. Martin just has his physical limitations.

I will also never forget the play where Eric Staal touched Ryan Whitney's head and Whits laid there like a dying man behind the net as Eric Staal stepped out to the front of the net to score the GWG. I have never seen a softer, more embarrassing defensive play in my life.




That whole series was an abomination, none more than this play

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Gonchar did give a horrible effort (none basically) on that play. You'd still think Fleury could stop that shot though. Really is hard to figure the flower out sometimes. He makes the unreal save on Lidstrom (thank god) but can't stop that crap shot by Moen.

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Whitney would take hits to make plays, he just never delivered them. And, he beat the Hell out of Wade Redden.

Martin is just... I don't know. Totally averse to any physicality.

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06-08-2012, 08:48 PM
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Martin between these 2

Gonchar was soft as well

Another D that always tries to get away from contact, is Tomas Kaberle,

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That Gonchar play was a disgrace. Curse you for making me remember it.

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Whitney at least had a frame on him. That playoff series against the Rags...he was pretty physical.
I thought he was really good in the 08 finals too.

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Yeah, people forget that Gonchar was soft because he was an elite PP specialist.

Hell, he was so afraid of contact that it nearly cost him his knee when Ovechkin hit him.

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If Ryan Whitney were a Pokemon he'd be a Magikarp...but instead of evolving into something awesome he'd just hurt himself in confusion and die.

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Martin...AINEC..lol
Sadly this is so true, PM makes Whitney look like Scott Stevens... ughhhhh

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Gonchar did give a horrible effort (none basically) on that play. You'd still think Fleury could stop that shot though. Really is hard to figure the flower out sometimes. He makes the unreal save on Lidstrom (thank god) but can't stop that crap shot by Moen.
Not going to lie been SUPER critical of MAF but honestly for a 5 million dollar goalie who has been in this league for THIS LONG... there are no more excuses. This guy was and will alway and will be a head case...


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If Ryan Whitney were a Pokemon he'd be a Magikarp...but instead of evolving into something awesome he'd just hurt himself in confusion and die.
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If Ryan Whitney were a Pokemon he'd be a Magikarp...but instead of evolving into something awesome he'd just hurt himself in confusion and die.
But at least he would have a "funny" twitter account, just like ****** worthless Paul Bissonette...

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Yeah, people forget that Gonchar was soft because he was an elite PP specialist.

Hell, he was so afraid of contact that it nearly cost him his knee when Ovechkin hit him.
Gonchar really isn't in the same conversation as far as being afraid of being hit. He was far from being rugged, but compared to Martin last year and Whitney almost his entire career, it's not even close. Those guys would give a guy a point blank chance rather than taking even a moderate hit.

As far as the Ovechkin incident goes, he's far from being the only player to try and get out of the way of that freight train. If he'd have stood up to it he'd have probably gotten his head taken off by Ovechkin's shoulder pad due to Ovy's signature "Lambeau Leap" hitting style ...

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IMO Martin was really spoiled playing with Uncle Daddy.

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