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07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
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I like how Feaster has addressed major areas of weakness on this team:

1. One of the worst teams for points from defenders.
adds: Right hand shot, 3/4 D, and 11G 35A from the blue line.

2. 25th in even strength goals scored. Terrible shoot-out average.
adds: Hudler. One of the best even strength scorers, shootout specialist (51st all-time), and obvious skill.

Feaster is making great moves to improve this team. I hope he focuses his effort on improving our C position. We were dead last at 46.2%. Even a slight upgrade would be massive.
Really this would be the only thing left to make it a successful offseason, plus moving out Babchuk+another forward.

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07-04-2012, 03:46 AM
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Realistically dump Stajan grab Steckel and have a 4th line of Comeau - Steckel - Jones.
Boom.

Steckel trade is exactly what I was thinking for the Flames. 4th line C thats big and can win Faceoffs.

Other possibilities:

Boyd Gordon
Manny Malholtra
Jim Slater
Marcel Goc

All could possibly had for a reasonable price while getting rid of Babchuk and Stajan. Steckel I think is the ideal fit however.

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07-04-2012, 07:47 PM
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Well now that Suter stiffed Detroit..I say we give them Jbo for Filpulla... and sign Matt Carle to 6years at 33million and dump Stajan and Babs for a goon

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07-04-2012, 07:54 PM
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Well now that Suter stiffed Detroit..I say we give them Jbo for Filpulla... and sign Matt Carle to 6years at 33million and dump Stajan and Babs for a goon
I like it but I am worried because outside of this year Filpulla has only ever been a 35-40 point player but he does replace Stajan. Also no goons we need speed.

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07-04-2012, 09:26 PM
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Proposal

According to Dreger, the Flyers are about to lose Carle to Tampa Bay. If this happens, the Flyers are going to be absolutely desperate for a top pairing dman.

How about this for a proposal:

To Philly:

Bouwmeester
Reinhart

To Calgary:

Couturier

While I know the Flyers are hugely high on Couturier, the fact is they have Giroux, Briere and Schenn. Schenn isn't going anywhere with the addition of his brother, so maybe Couturier is the more available of the 2. He also has the higher upside IMO and has drawn many comparisons to Toews. This may be the time to strike while the iron is hot and go out and get that top pairing centre.

Thoughts???

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07-04-2012, 09:33 PM
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^ Detroit would be even more desperate all of a sudden Jbo could be worth a fair bit on the trade market. Also I would do that deal in a heartbeat but only if we could get Gustafsson since we won't rebuild.

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According to Dreger, the Flyers are about to lose Carle to Tampa Bay. If this happens, the Flyers are going to be absolutely desperate for a top pairing dman.

How about this for a proposal:

To Philly:

Bouwmeester
Reinhart

To Calgary:

Couturier

While I know the Flyers are hugely high on Couturier, the fact is they have Giroux, Briere and Schenn. Schenn isn't going anywhere with the addition of his brother, so maybe Couturier is the more available of the 2. He also has the higher upside IMO and has drawn many comparisons to Toews. This may be the time to strike while the iron is hot and go out and get that top pairing centre.

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He's more than likely 100% untouchable.

A few teams might be ringing Mr. Feaster now.

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^ Detroit would be even more desperate all of a sudden Jbo could be worth a fair bit on the trade market. Also I would do that deal in a heartbeat but only if we could get Gustafsson since we won't rebuild.
The Wings I agree are now definitely the most desperate, but they don't have any expendable pieces that I see that could into a potential future #1C.
The deal I proposed would be my 1st preference. 3 others I would take a run at are:

Jbo, Backlund for Berglund and or Schwartz and Cole.

Jbo, Backlund for Wilson and Blum/Ellis

Jbo, Backlund for Statsny.

These are all deals that Feaster needs to look at very hard.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd also do Baertschi and Jbo for Duchene and Elliot.

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07-04-2012, 10:13 PM
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He's more than likely 100% untouchable.

A few teams might be ringing Mr. Feaster now.
While I don't disagree with what you are saying, look at the Flyers defence corps as stand minus Pronger and Carle. 2 years ago a case could of been made that was the best D in the league, as of today I would easily take our group over theirs especially if I knew Bryz was standing behind them.

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The Wings I agree are now definitely the most desperate, but they don't have any expendable pieces that I see that could into a potential future #1C.
The deal I proposed would be my 1st preference. 3 others I would take a run at are:

Jbo, Backlund for Berglund and or Schwartz and Cole.

Jbo, Backlund for Wilson and Blum/Ellis

Jbo, Backlund for Statsny.

These are all deals that Feaster needs to look at very hard.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd also do Baertschi and Jbo for Duchene and Elliot.
Not a fan of this deal at all, also trading Baertschi is a huge no right now, possibly our pest Prospect since the late 1980's as sad as that sounds.

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The Wings I agree are now definitely the most desperate, but they don't have any expendable pieces that I see that could into a potential future #1C.
The deal I proposed would be my 1st preference. 3 others I would take a run at are:

Jbo, Backlund for Berglund and or Schwartz and Cole.

Jbo, Backlund for Wilson and Blum/Ellis

Jbo, Backlund for Statsny.

These are all deals that Feaster needs to look at very hard.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd also do Baertschi and Jbo for Duchene and Elliot.
I would never do this.

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07-04-2012, 10:21 PM
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Well now that Suter stiffed Detroit..I say we give them Jbo for Filpulla... and sign Matt Carle to 6years at 33million and dump Stajan and Babs for a goon
Wow. You nailed the terms on Matt Carle perfectly. Just the wrong team!

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The Wings I agree are now definitely the most desperate, but they don't have any expendable pieces that I see that could into a potential future #1C.
The deal I proposed would be my 1st preference. 3 others I would take a run at are:

Jbo, Backlund for Berglund and or Schwartz and Cole.

Jbo, Backlund for Wilson and Blum/Ellis

Jbo, Backlund for Statsny.

These are all deals that Feaster needs to look at very hard.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd also do Baertschi and Jbo for Duchene and Elliot.
Well as long as you know

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According to Dreger, the Flyers are about to lose Carle to Tampa Bay. If this happens, the Flyers are going to be absolutely desperate for a top pairing dman.

How about this for a proposal:

To Philly:

Bouwmeester
Reinhart

To Calgary:

Couturier

While I know the Flyers are hugely high on Couturier, the fact is they have Giroux, Briere and Schenn. Schenn isn't going anywhere with the addition of his brother, so maybe Couturier is the more available of the 2. He also has the higher upside IMO and has drawn many comparisons to Toews. This may be the time to strike while the iron is hot and go out and get that top pairing centre.

Thoughts???
Well done. You follow the Flyers, so I would assume it's possible. I would pull the trigger on this. Maybe go after Carle or Colaiacovo afterwards to replace Jbo.

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Well done. You follow the Flyers, so I would assume it's possible. I would pull the trigger on this. Maybe go after Carle or Colaiacovo afterwards to replace Jbo.
Carle was signed.

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Carle was signed.
Whoops. I've been living under a rock this evening.

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Wow. You nailed the terms on Matt Carle perfectly. Just the wrong team!
Oh wow I didn't know I could be that close. Wish we could have got him for that price.

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I'm sure trade talks have just heated up big time for Feaster. I see the Redwings and Flyers being the only two teams that would trade for Jay-Bo. Supposedly Feaster's asking price is high (and rightfully so since the market for d-men has significantly shrunk). He's asking for a nhl player, prospect, and a 1st rounder. Seems a bit too much for a guy with a cap-hit of $6.7mil. Hopefully something happens.

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I'm sure trade talks have just heated up big time for Feaster. I see the Redwings and Flyers being the only two teams that would trade for Jay-Bo. Supposedly Feaster's asking price is high (and rightfully so since the market for d-men has significantly shrunk). He's asking for a nhl player, prospect, and a 1st rounder. Seems a bit too much for a guy with a cap-hit of $6.7mil. Hopefully something happens.
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-Philly
-Pitts
-Edmonton
-Detroit
-CBJ
-Tampa Bay

could all have interest.

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The only concern I would have now with Jaybo trade is who do we have to replace his top line minutes. I think Feaster won't trade him unless he can find a credible D-man to replace Jaybo. Feaster wants to get better now and I don't think Jaybo trade makes him better right away unless a team pays a hefty price.

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The only concern I would have now with Jaybo trade is who do we have to replace his top line minutes. I think Feaster won't trade him unless he can find a credible D-man to replace Jaybo. Feaster wants to get better now and I don't think Jaybo trade makes him better right away unless a team pays a hefty price.


I would love it if Feaster could trade Bouwmeester and acquire Yandle.

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I knew my suggestion of the Baertschi/Jbo deal was going to get some flack here. But I hold Duchene in extremely high regard. Their is zero risk that if he develops into a regular NHL'er (because he is one now). The only question with him is, will he be a 70pt playmaking centre (ie. Koivu) or will he become a premier centre in the NHL for years to come. Personally, I'm banking on the latter which is the ONLY reason I'd move Baertschi for him.

The Couturier deal I proposed would be my 1st choice because I really think he has what it takes to become a Toews caliber player given the right situation. He is just such an incredible talent, and watching a rookie shutdown Crosby in the playoffs is something I'll never forget. But he has all the offensive tools anyone could ask for. Being able to get him to play with Baertschi for years to come would be simply gigantic for the Flames.

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I would love it if Feaster could trade Bouwmeester and acquire Yandle.
I wonder if we could bring in Mike Green for JayBo. He is a RFA and not signed yet...

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I knew my suggestion of the Baertschi/Jbo deal was going to get some flack here. But I hold Duchene in extremely high regard. Their is zero risk that if he develops into a regular NHL'er (because he is one now). The only question with him is, will he be a 70pt playmaking centre (ie. Koivu) or will he become a premier centre in the NHL for years to come. Personally, I'm banking on the latter which is the ONLY reason I'd move Baertschi for him.

The Couturier deal I proposed would be my 1st choice because I really think he has what it takes to become a Toews caliber player given the right situation. He is just such an incredible talent, and watching a rookie shutdown Crosby in the playoffs is something I'll never forget. But he has all the offensive tools anyone could ask for. Being able to get him to play with Baertschi for years to come would be simply gigantic for the Flames.
If Flames can get Couturier for Jay Bo I am in whole heartedly becuase this will solve our Centre position for years to come.

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I knew my suggestion of the Baertschi/Jbo deal was going to get some flack here. But I hold Duchene in extremely high regard. Their is zero risk that if he develops into a regular NHL'er (because he is one now). The only question with him is, will he be a 70pt playmaking centre (ie. Koivu) or will he become a premier centre in the NHL for years to come. Personally, I'm banking on the latter which is the ONLY reason I'd move Baertschi for him.

The Couturier deal I proposed would be my 1st choice because I really think he has what it takes to become a Toews caliber player given the right situation. He is just such an incredible talent, and watching a rookie shutdown Crosby in the playoffs is something I'll never forget. But he has all the offensive tools anyone could ask for. Being able to get him to play with Baertschi for years to come would be simply gigantic for the Flames.
Unless Pronger stays out and something happens to Timmonen Philly has no reason to move Couturier. Timmonen, Mezaros, Coburn, Schenn, Grossman, Lilja and Bourdon is still quite good.

However after losing JVR and Jagr I don't think they can afford to lose a young skilled forward.

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