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06-11-2012, 05:16 PM
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He made 2.5 the last 2 seasons, I think 2.75 would get it done. Most GM's will want to stay clear.
I think Latendresse has more upside than Moss and Stempniak. This might be a good replacement for our losses down the right side. He's only 26 yrs old too.

I've been an advocate of locking down our centre position and defensive needs, but Latendresse would probably finalize our needs down the wing. Either him or Smyth would be that net presence we need for a soft forward line-up.

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06-11-2012, 05:41 PM
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I'm not sure, what recent contract can we compare him to? Take into consideration that he has barely played in 2 seasons.
But is he healthy now is the question? If he isn't 100% healthy then I say no.

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Assuming Latendresse has been cleared to play (his last injury was a concussion, so he might be bed-ridden in a dark room for all we know) he has missed a lot of hockey over the last two years.

If he's able to play, I'd give him a one year tryout deal at a low cap hit - let him reestablish himself in the league before considering anything more.

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I wouldn't even bet on him getting a one-way contract.

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06-11-2012, 06:00 PM
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Sounds like Latendresse might not get a QO from MIN.

He's worth the risk IMO. Very skilled guy with size, who IIRC can play off-wing.

A line of Bartschi-Backlund-Latendresse would be slick if they can stay healthy. Also, not that it's likely a big deal breaker, but having a francophone coach to teach him could be an added bonus.
I would definitely go for Latendresse.

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Assuming Latendresse has been cleared to play (his last injury was a concussion, so he might be bed-ridden in a dark room for all we know) he has missed a lot of hockey over the last two years.

If he's able to play, I'd give him a one year tryout deal at a low cap hit - let him reestablish himself in the league before considering anything more.
He has spoken tot eh media a bit so that's good, he also was the one who suggested he won't get a qualifying offer. As for his contract, I would give him 1.5 million plus 1 million in bonuses to have him reach the 2.5 million cap hit he had last year. This way we are protected of he can't play and he isn't given a lowball offer. I think its win/win.

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I wouldn't even bet on him getting a one-way contract.
you would be wrong.

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I would love a guy like Carkner for our bottom pairing. He is very tough, can clear the net, and has made big improvements defensivly. His foot speed is average, but he's usually in position and rarely gets burned. He's also a lot more disciplined than he was in the past.

An underrated guy for the bottom pairing IMO. He can also spot fill in the top 4 when injuries come up. He was great for OTT in the 1st round.

I'd try to sign Garrison and Carkner

Bouwmeester-Garrison
Giordano-Butler
Brodie-Carkner
Smith

Nothing great but better then what we had last year. If we cannot get Garrison then Rozsival is worth a look, and probably comes cheaper. Actually he might be a better target if the price/term for Garrison is too much.
Wouldn't be opposed to carkner but also wouldn't mind a guy like Exelby for that bottom pairing

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Why don't you think Calgary has a chance at Suter? I wouldn't put it past Feaster to make a very tempting offer.
What would this tempting offer look like?... This should be good

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What would this tempting offer look like?... This should be good
Feaster made an offer that reportedly almost landed Brad Richards when the Flames weren't even supposed to be in the mix, why would you think he couldn't do it again?

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Sounds like Latendresse might not get a QO from MIN.

He's worth the risk IMO. Very skilled guy with size, who IIRC can play off-wing.

A line of Bartschi-Backlund-Latendresse would be slick if they can stay healthy. Also, not that it's likely a big deal breaker, but having a francophone coach to teach him could be an added bonus.
Personally I would just resign Comeau he has just as high of a peak (higher imo) will be about the same or cheaper and atleast he can stay healthy.

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Personally I would just resign Comeau he has just as high of a peak (higher imo) will be about the same or cheaper and atleast he can stay healthy.
Good point they do have similar production in the NHL
Comeau had 136 points in 319 games
Latendresse has 137 points in 314 games

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Good point they do have similar production in the NHL
Comeau had 136 points in 319 games
Latendresse has 137 points in 314 games
Also Latendresse doesn't kill penalties and needs pp time for his points, Comeau doesn't need pp and can play pk fairly well. Honestly I see alot of Glencross in Comeau I would hate to give him up.

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Would anyone move the 14th for Runblad? He has a top 4 potential and is a good puck mover Phoenix is stacked on D and he is further along in his development than any prospect in the draft.

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Good point they do have similar production in the NHL
Comeau had 136 points in 319 games
Latendresse has 137 points in 314 games
Interesting. Comeau is also a right handed forward.

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Would anyone move the 14th for Runblad? He has a top 4 potential and is a good puck mover Phoenix is stacked on D and he is further along in his development than any prospect in the draft.
I wouldn't, I am leery of prospects that are dealt twice before completing their rookie season.

I also don't trust anyone that played with Erixon in Sweden

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I wouldn't, I am leery of prospects that are dealt twice before completing their rookie season.

I also don't trust anyone that played with Erixon in Sweden
Fair enough just trying to think outside the box. We seriously lack a PMD prospect and I think he would be great to add.

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Fair enough just trying to think outside the box. We seriously lack a PMD prospect and I think he would be great to add.
What about a more high risk prospect? would you be down for that?

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What about a more high risk prospect? would you be down for that?
which prospect it would depend.

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which prospect it would depend.
Thomas Hickey, I think the cost to get him would be relatively small and perhaps a new organization and system can get him back on track. He has huge potential but hasn't put it all together yet and has gotten buried in a deep Kings prospect pool on the blueline.

I suggested this in the Backlund thread on the trade board.

to LAK:
- Backlund
to CGY:
- Hickey
- Moller
- Conditional 3rd or 4th (if Moller doesn't come back to North America)

gives us 2 higher risk prospects in the positions we need them the most.

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Thomas Hickey, I think the cost to get him would be relatively small and perhaps a new organization and system can get him back on track. He has huge potential but hasn't put it all together yet and has gotten buried in a deep Kings prospect pool on the blueline.

I suggested this in the Backlund thread on the trade board.

to LAK:
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to CGY:
- Hickey
- Moller
- Conditional 3rd or 4th (if Moller doesn't come back to North America)

gives us 2 higher risk prospects in the positions we need them the most.
Personally no I have seen Hickey in person several times and he looks worse than Breen I doubt he becomes a full time nhl and I don't think Moller is worth Backlund. I would rather move the 14th for a high risk prospect.

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Personally no I have seen Hickey in person several times and he looks worse than Breen I doubt he becomes a full time nhl and I don't think Moller is worth Backlund. I would rather move the 14th for a high risk prospect.
fair enough, I haven't seen much of him so thanks for the insight.

have anyone in mind? you know other than Runblad lol

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fair enough, I haven't seen much of him so thanks for the insight.

have anyone in mind? you know other than Runblad lol
If we hadn't drafted Erixon he would be someone I would target . Basically I want and offensive projected top 4 defenseman as I think that is what we will end up with at 14 but the prospect will be closer to the nhl.

Defensemen I would consider moving the 14th for
Ellis (NSH)
Gormley(PHX)
Runblad(PHX)
Beaulieu(MON)
Brodin(MIN)

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If we hadn't drafted Erixon he would be someone I would target . Basically I want and offensive projected top 4 defenseman as I think that is what we will end up with at 14 but the prospect will be closer to the nhl.

Defensemen I would consider moving the 14th for
Ellis (NSH)
Gormley(PHX)
Runblad(PHX)
Beaulieu(MON)
Brodin(MIN)
i would prefer to try and move up in the draft personally, but I'm not sure how

the 14th+Backlund is an option, but I don't think that gets us much higher than 11th or 12th

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i would prefer to try and move up in the draft personally, but I'm not sure how

the 14th+Backlund is an option, but I don't think that gets us much higher than 11th or 12th
Yea at 12 the player isn't much better than than 14 + Backlund he isn't worth enough wait a year.

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Yea at 12 the player isn't much better than than 14 + Backlund he isn't worth enough wait a year.
waiting the year is a double edged sword though. sure he could get better or he could continue to disappoint and lose what little value he has

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waiting the year is a double edged sword though. sure he could get better or he could continue to disappoint and lose what little value he has
He is worth at most a second right now and we are extremely weak at center I don't move him unless we get a better centermen that is nhl ready now.

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