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06-08-2012, 10:24 PM
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Who replaces Havs?

With the state of this team now and with no sign that Stan will make any significant changes anytime soon, and the draft approaching, the replacement for Havs could be the most important decision this team makes this summer. Thoughts?

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06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
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IMO it will be either Crawford or Ted Dent.

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06-08-2012, 11:16 PM
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Four pages of thoughts in the old thread.

I had hoped Lapointe, but he went to Montreal.

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not trying to be an ass, but does it really matter??

Q is just going to **** everything up anyway....

maybe Denis Savard??

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06-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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IMO Ted Dent is the most likely option and Crawford will be the one to replace Q.

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IMO Ted Dent is the most likely option and Crawford will be the one to replace Q.
Thanks for making me puke in my own mouth.

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06-08-2012, 11:48 PM
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Thanks for making me puke in my own mouth.
???

You confuse me, sir.

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???

You confuse me, sir.
Confused? The idea of Crawford anywhere near this team is bad. Not a fan of his.

What we need is an ass-kicker who brings a fiery passion and accountability ever game. That's what the **** we need. I'm sick of these lollipop coaches. The nice guys aren't working. The only time Q's face turns red is when he's *****ing at the referees.

By the way, not saying Crawford is a lollipop coach.

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Crawford>Q.

Crawford=Available.

Q=/=Competent.

Simple math, and when it all comes down to it, Crawford is the better decision IMHO. I like what he brings to the table and he can cope with this roster IMO.

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Crawford>Q.

Crawford=Available.

Q=/=Competent.

Simple math, and when it all comes down to it, Crawford is the better decision IMHO. I like what he brings to the table and he can cope with this roster IMO.
If you're frustrated with how the Hawks haven't gotten it done with some damn good talent on the roster the last couple of years, just think of how Canucks fans must have felt. He also doesn't have a Cup to hang his hat on.

Pass.

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If you're frustrated with how the Hawks haven't gotten it done with some damn good talent on the roster the last couple of years, just think of how Canucks fans must have felt. He also doesn't have a Cup to hang his hat on.

Pass.
Q won a Cup with a stacked forward and defense group with a Finnish bartender as his goalie, whom he had no control over. The players did for themselves. Crawford has some input on what his players do all the time, and when Q does it's calamity.

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If you're frustrated with how the Hawks haven't gotten it done with some damn good talent on the roster the last couple of years, just think of how Canucks fans must have felt. He also doesn't have a Cup to hang his hat on.

Pass.
definitely dont want Crawford. no retread of coaches that have been axed more times then I can remember....though Sutter in LA proves my philosophy wrong!!

I want what Cullk said, a fire breather that is going to hold ***** accountable. a coach that isnt going to flip the lines 25 times a game and actually try and let some chemistry kick in...

I want a younger coach, someone looking for that chance to be the man....not sure who that is, but I know hes out there

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TB struck gold with Guy Boucher, I doubt we get that kind of luck. For a coach that's 5 or so years younger than his starting goaltender, he knows what he's doing. That's the kind of coach we need, just not a 22 year old. We need to incorporate defense into the system as well, while still keeping position of the puck AAT to make sure we don't have to utilize it as much. Boucher understands that, which is why he's got the reins of a 60-goal pedigree scorer in his hands.

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Q won a Cup with a stacked forward and defense group with a Finnish bartender as his goalie, whom he had no control over. The players did for themselves. Crawford has some input on what his players do all the time, and when Q does it's calamity.
Was the Hawks' defense in 2010 really stacked? They were good, not stacked, in my opinion. You obviously had Olympic Seabrook and Olympic and Norris Keith, but you also had a young and still fairly inexperienced Hjalmarsson, a puck-moving defenseman who still hadn't formed a decent defensive game until his last year as a Hawk in Campbell, and the likes of Boynton, Hendry, and Sopel, and Johnsson for only eight games. And if Q won with a "Finnish bartender" (he was a zamboni driver on the side), isn't that a plus for Q? He won with someone like that. How's it a negative? Crawford is no better than Q. Sorry to break it to you. Quenneville's stops in other places (St. Louis and Colorado) are still better than what Crawford did in Dallas or Vancouver. I can't deny the forward group was stacked, though. They could beat you in any manner.

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TB struck gold with Guy Boucher, I doubt we get that kind of luck. For a coach that's 5 or so years younger than his starting goaltender, he knows what he's doing. That's the kind of coach we need, just not a 22 year old. We need to incorporate defense into the system as well, while still keeping position of the puck AAT to make sure we don't have to utilize it as much. Boucher understands that, which is why he's got the reins of a 60-goal pedigree scorer in his hands.
Let's hold the phone on that one. The team collapsed in front of his very eyes this year after being one game away from the SCF. He's coached two years. He's had one good year and one awfully bad. Give it time before we jump to conclusions like they "struck gold".

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Yes, but the Hammer of then was better than the Hammer of now. And our D corps were exponentially stronger than most in the league in 2010. All of them? **** no. Most of them? Sure. And the stacked team he had up front and on the blue lines offsets the fact that Niemi was an unknown Zamboni driver.

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Firebreather? Roy might leave the Remparts. I don't know if that's a good idea though. I don't pay enough attention to juniors. Just watch players I like.

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Yes, but the Hammer of then was better than the Hammer of now. And our D corps were exponentially stronger than most in the league in 2010. All of them? **** no. Most of them? Sure. And the stacked team he had up front and on the blue lines offsets the fact that Niemi was an unknown Zamboni driver.
Who had some prior experience and some success the year before.

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definitely dont want Crawford. no retread of coaches that have been axed more times then I can remember....though Sutter in LA proves my philosophy wrong!!

I want what Cullk said, a fire breather that is going to hold ***** accountable. a coach that isnt going to flip the lines 25 times a game and actually try and let some chemistry kick in...

I want a younger coach, someone looking for that chance to be the man....not sure who that is, but I know hes out there
Eakins? He's not young, though. He's 45.

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Eakins? He's not young, though. He's 45.
I love Mike Vellucci from Plmouth of the OHL....

Probably my favorite coach to see....does so much with what he has, always makes his players better, holds their ***** to the fire, just a great coach to have.

when I say young I guess I mean someone that hasnt been floating around NHL circles for the past 20 years....could be ex players or coaches that just havent gotten that shot. Vellucci isnt young, but he isnt old either...he would be my pick if the Hawks had balls..

look at this mans coaching record for Plymouth of the OHL



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Cimaglia said the other day that Norfolk's coach, Jon Cooper, is a candidate for the job. Considering he just won coach of the year, and is one win away from sweeping the Calder Cup Finals, I wouldn't complain if he were the option.

Also interesting, Al said that Bowman's had to field some calls from players who were angry that Haviland got fired.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/18...pe-and-concern

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I'm sure Havi could come back as soon as Q is gone during this season

Cooper? he had success so far, but I don't know much about him. Can somebody say something more about him?

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I wouldn't mind Cooper as our head coach, with Dent and somebody else as the assistants, heck, I'd probably be able to live with Kitchen if his role was minimized.

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Isn't that why we signed Hossa?

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Why does everybody talks about head coach here? Q is the head coach and as of now, he will be it until we fail in the POs again. We "only" need an assistant coach.

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