It's definitely possible he falls to #12, and it's also very possible we take him given our fortunes with WHL D-men.
Very true. That Regier and Devine likely got a nice look at Reinhart given his run to the Memorial Cup with Pysyk and the rest of the Oil Kings, I think it's a very strong possibility.
At this point I'm expecting a defenseman at 12. I prefer Reinhart to Ceci.
HB do you think Zemgus Girgensons has the upside to justify taking with the #12 pick? I just dont see how he is worth using a #12 pick on when guys like Laughton, Smith, Sutter, Janakowski, and Hertl should all be available in the later rounds and basically have the same ceilings, to me Cody Ceci and Olli Maatta are much better prospects from what I have seen, but I will admit I have seen alot of Ceci and Maatta compared to Girgensons who I have only seen in isolation videos, WJR.
I would go all in for Grigorenko or Galchenyuk. Even Faksa or Teravainen would be good consolation prizes.
If we stay where we are I would like to see
#12 Cody Ceci
#21 Tomas Hertl
#42 Mark Jankowski
#44 Oscar Dansk, Scott Laughton
seems like outside of the top 15 picks anything can happen
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so what everyones take on Slepyshev? Russian/KHL factor notwithstanding, seems like theres some intriguing upside there...any interest in taking a flyer on him at 42 or 44?
so what everyones take on Slepyshev? Russian/KHL factor notwithstanding, seems like theres some intriguing upside there...any interest in taking a flyer on him at 42 or 44?
if he has expressed interest in the NHL then I would easily take him in the 2nd round,
so what everyones take on Slepyshev? Russian/KHL factor notwithstanding, seems like theres some intriguing upside there...any interest in taking a flyer on him at 42 or 44?
I'd absolutely take him with a 2nd rounder if he was there. Something tells me he will be drafted in the early 2nd though, he looks as though he could have some real untapped offensive potential
HB do you think Zemgus Girgensons has the upside to justify taking with the #12 pick? I just dont see how he is worth using a #12 pick on when guys like Laughton, Smith, Sutter, Janakowski, and Hertl should all be available in the later rounds and basically have the same ceilings, to me Cody Ceci and Olli Maatta are much better prospects from what I have seen, but I will admit I have seen alot of Ceci and Maatta compared to Girgensons who I have only seen in isolation videos, WJR.
I would go all in for Grigorenko or Galchenyuk. Even Faksa or Teravainen would be good consolation prizes.
If we stay where we are I would like to see
#12 Cody Ceci
#21 Tomas Hertl
#42 Mark Janakowski
#44 Oscar Dansk, Scott Laughton
seems like outside of the top 15 picks anything can happen
How would you put it...? oh yea...
"not very well thought out..."
How would you put it...? oh yea...
"not very well thought out..."
OMG I put an extra "A" in his name...
Jame doing what he does best, trolling
stop commenting on my posts if you have no input. just sick of your snard remarks all the time and your "i am always right and everyone else is wrong if they have a different opinion than me" attitide.
I'd absolutely take him with a 2nd rounder if he was there. Something tells me he will be drafted in the early 2nd though, he looks as though he could have some real untapped offensive potential
I doubt that he goes in the 2nd.
He's been inconsistent this year and isn't a super high-end prospect like Kuznetsov or Tarasenko, plus he already has a KHL contract (two years).
I don't think anyone takes him until the mid rounds.
I doubt that he goes in the 2nd.
He's been inconsistent this year and isn't a super high-end prospect like Kuznetsov or Tarasenko, plus he already has a KHL contract (two years).
I don't think anyone takes him until the mid rounds.
how can you determine if a 17 year old was inconsistent in the KHL ? maybe he just wasent KHL ready.
how can you determine if a 17 year old was inconsistent in the KHL ? maybe he just wasent KHL ready.
He wasn't consistent against his own age group in international tournaments either.
I know I was personally left wanting more from him at the U18's.
Even ignoring that issue, he's just a good prospect, but not great.
Russians that are just good don't stick in the NHL because they know they have the opportunity to be a top player in the KHL and get paid like one too.
- I'm certainly intrigued by the Maatta-Numminen angle. (IIRC Maatta said Teppo was his idol in one of the interviews, which isn't all that surprising.)
- I keep flip-flopping on Maatta vs Ceci, and I really wouldn't be disappointed with either.
- I have Girgensons ahead of Gaunce; though like Baker, I'd prefer to see a better skill-set from a forward taken 12th overall. It's certainly looking like there's better value in defensemen at that spot, so it'll be curious to see if any slip when a team opts for a forward instead.
- I don't think Reinhart is on the board at 12, but he'd certainly be in the conversation if he was.
- I liked what little I saw of Aberg, as I recall him playing well on Zibanejad's wing in my viewings. I definitely see the similarities to Collberg, who seems to always show up at the international level; it's just too bad Collberg didn't get too many minutes in the SEL. I'd be okay with either Swede at twelve too, as they both have the speed and shooting skills worthy of that slot. However, Aberg's injuries may see him available at 21, which could be a potential steal IMO.
- Slepyshev was a 1st overall KHL pick, so idk that in two years an ELC will look any more appealing than what the motherland has to offer. He's indicated that he's excited to be drafted, but has not commited to any future plans when his initial KHL contract expires in two years. He's likely a 3rd- or 4th-rounder, that is unless an NHL team with a good track record with Russians gambles earlier. And like jfb392 said, Slepyshev's a good talent, not elite nor great, and those type of players get paid well to stay in their comfort zone at home. The diminutive playmaker Gusev or the physical center Prokhorkin is the talent I'd prefer to draft out of the MHL.
actually, I was mocking the fact that you think Jankowski will last until the 40s... kind of like how you thought my mock wasn't "well thought out" because of where i mocked them... Like Jarrod Maidens going in the 1st round... oh wait, that was until I found your mock... that had Maidens going in the 1st... to Buffalo
remember that thread? it's the one where you disappeared after I posted YOUR mock there...
Funny that you thought my comment was about a spelling error...
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stop commenting on my posts if you have no input. just sick of your snard remarks all the time and your "i am always right and everyone else is wrong if they have a different opinion than me" attitide.
there is no "right and wrong" in mock draft/draft analysis.
There's only, "hmmm interesting, why do you think that?"
you get "snard" remarks, because you don't understand that
It literally just occurred to me that we're within two weeks of the draft. I'm stoked. This is the first draft that I've really studied in depth since '08.
- Slepyshev was a 1st overall KHL pick, so idk that in two years an ELC will look any more appealing than what the motherland has to offer. He's indicated that he's excited to be drafted, but has not commited to any future plans when his initial KHL contract expires in two years. He's likely a 3rd- or 4th-rounder, that is unless an NHL team with a good track record with Russians gambles earlier. And like jfb392 said, Slepyshev's a good talent, not elite nor great, and those type of players get paid well to stay in their comfort zone at home. The diminutive playmaker Gusev or the physical center Prokhorkin is the talent I'd prefer to draft out of the MHL.
Sometimes it doesn't even matter if a player wants to come over because they end up getting caught in red tape.
Since Slepyshev has signed a KHL contract, he could conceivably be stuck there until he's 28 (the age of unrestricted free agency in the KHL) because Russian laws aren't like North American ones.
Essentially, since he's signed one contract, they can extend that contract until he's 28 without his permission if they want to.
He can't just ignore said contract because of the agreement the KHL has with the NHL (not a transfer agreement, but they recognize valid contracts as such) and NHL out-clauses are not allowed, so his only option would be to buy out his own contract, which is costly.
Novokuznetsk has let their young talent come over lately, but you never know when they'll change their minds (they've been a bottom feeder and likely want to break that trend eventually).
Just a lot of hassle for a player that isn't a homerun.
He strikes me as a Avtsin/Dadonov/Kitsyn type in the sense that they're all enticing players but just don't really seem to have "it".
It literally just occurred to me that we're within two weeks of the draft. I'm stoked. This is the first draft that I've really studied in depth since '08.
This draft is the first I've been able to study since 2001 (military service). I'm pretty excited.
I think this off-season is going to be huge. I may be in the minority, but I think the Sabres are very close to contending for a Cup. No evidence to prove this. Gut feeling.
Yeah. This seems to be the consensus bunch of players that we're interested in (HF posters).
Maata may be a sleeper for us at 12. He's an impressive prospect. That said, I still like one of the centers there.
I would not complain with any of these selections. Faksa and Ceci would be my favorite picks. I can see Ceci being a top pairing dman ceiling if developed properly. Faksa I can see being a Kopitar type player if developed fully. I would like to go boom/bust, don't want a safe pick with a 3rd liner tops potential ceiling.
I would not complain with any of these selections. Faksa and Ceci would be my favorite picks. I can see Ceci being a top pairing dman ceiling if developed properly. Faksa I can see being a Kopitar type player if developed fully. I would like to go boom/bust, don't want a safe pick with a 3rd liner tops potential ceiling.
I've said it a few times - having four picks in the top 45 of the draft gives Regier the flexibility to take a project or boom/bust pick.
