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MacT is back (Management role)

View Poll Results: How do you feel about the MacT hiring?
I like the move by management 106 43.62%
I dislike this move by management 42 17.28%
I'll wait and see before making judgement 64 26.34%
I don't really care 31 12.76%
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06-11-2012, 11:40 AM
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Wow, an HF poster totally called it, knew there'd be an announcement of someone calming back to the oilers. Well done!

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Not sure why all the hate here. MacT has a smart hockey mind. And the biggest bonus to this is that it means he won't be coach. Seems like more whining for sake of whining to me.

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06-11-2012, 11:41 AM
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Certain people just don't like him. Like I have always said MacT is a Stanley Cup winner several times over, coached an eighth place team to within one game of said Cup and didn't just get stupid overnight.
If by certain people, you mean any and all management at every other nhl team except for ours, then ya, you could be onto something.

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Kinda funny. I don't have a problem with it, although I'd like to learn more about what he'll actually be doing.

People around here act like he's being brought in to GM and coach.

IATL is gonna lose his freaking mind.

This thread is also gonna be all kinds of amusing.

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Good, with this hiring the Oilers just brought in a hockey guy that has more hockey smarts and acumen than anyone else on the management team.

That said, I want to hear what his role is.

If he is actively working beside Tambellini then good. If he is "actively" working next to KLowe then what's the point? This team doesn't need another figurehead.

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LOLWUT????

I can't believe that the MacT rumors were true.

At least he wasn't brought back as coach although i expect him to take over when whoever is hired this offseason is fired in 2 seasons. Either that or MacT will take over for Tambellini as GM when he's fired after the Oilers fail again this upcoming season.
I have officially lost all faith in the organization. Old Boys Club indeed.
This. They are aware of how it would look to hire him back as a coach this year. So they're easing us into the idea by putting him in this role. So we'll get used to seeing him with the Oilers again, then BAM, he's the GM or Head Coach.

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If by certain people, you mean any and all management at every other nhl team except for ours, then ya, you could be onto something.
That is a ridiculous assertion and one that can't be proven outside your head.

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If by certain people, you mean any and all management at every other nhl team except for ours, then ya, you could be onto something.
What? Wasn't he just employed by the Vancouver Canucks organization?

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The Detroit Red Wings carried Ken Holland as GM, Jim Nill as Asst GM and Steve Yzerman as an Advisor to Hockey Operations. At the moment the Red Wings carry Ken Holland as GM, Jim Nill as Asst GM, Chris Chelios as an Advisor to Hockey Operations and Kris Draper as a Special Assistant to GM.

We now have Kevin Lowe, Steve Tambellini, Craig MacTavish and Rick Olczyk. What's the big deal?

Get smart hockey people together, make better decisions. Craig's a smart hockey man, so he's more than welcome on board.

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If by certain people, you mean any and all management at every other nhl team except for ours, then ya, you could be onto something.
That's not fair, he was a coach in the Vancouver system last year. Those decisions are made by management.

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Wow, an HF poster totally called it, knew there'd be an announcement of someone calming back to the oilers. Well done!
I believe that the same poster also said that Murray will be drafted at 1 so take that FWIW.

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For all his failings, MacTavish is a smart hockey guy. I don't think it hurts to give him a voice in the conversation.

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Not really sure what to think.

Yes he lost the team as coach, that doesn't mean he has a terrible hockey mind. On the other hand, why do the Oilers need another management type?

You would think future GM? Katz's hire?

Really don't know.

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The Detroit Red Wings carried Ken Holland as GM, Jim Nill as Asst GM and Steve Yzerman as an Advisor to Hockey Operations.

At the moment the Red Wings carry Ken Holland as GM, Jim Nill as Asst GM, Chris Chelios as an Advisor to Hockey Operations and Kris Draper as a Special Assistant to GM.

We now have Kevin Lowe, Steve Tambellini, Craig MacTavish and Rick Olczyk. What's the big deal?

Get smart hockey people together, make better decisions. Craig's a smart hockey man, so he's more than welcome on board.
My only issue with it is the proliferation of the Old Boys Club. Obviously Detroit has the same Club, and I don't like it there either. I just refuse to believe that the best Hockey mind out there just happens to be the ex-player every time.

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That is a ridiculous assertion and one that can't be proven outside your head.
Right. That's why he couldnt get a head coaching job in the nhl right?

Even though he was actively looking, putting his name out there and interviewing.

Good call.

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That said, I want to hear what his role is.

If he is actively working beside Tambellini then good. If he is "actively" working next to KLowe then what's the point? This team doesn't need another figurehead.
Another reason for people to ask: "Who is actually running things in Edmonton?"

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I have absolutely no problems with him back, happy for him, I think its great

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That's not fair, he was a coach in the Vancouver system last year. Those decisions are made by management.
At the nhl level?

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I don't understand. According to many people here, MacT is such a great coach that he would quickly find another coaching job somewhere else, no problem. What happened? Someone care to explain this?

I think it's great that we sign all the old coaches and management that helped put us in a state of mediocrity in the past. It's a good way to ensure that mediocrity will continue well on into the future.

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At the nhl level?
No, obviously not.

But to say that there was NO interest in him from other NHL teams isn't fair. Even getting interviews shows there was interest in him.

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Right. That's why he couldnt get a head coaching job in the nhl right?

Even though he was actively looking, putting his name out there and interviewing.

Good call.
unless he came out and said, "hey, i applied for every opening with no biases (region, teams, situations, etc) in my choices", im not buying that argument.

and thats not cause im trying to back him - its because its just a bad argument.

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Well this does tie in nicely with Stauffer saying that there were some things happening in the coming weeks that would blow your mind.

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Right. That's why he couldnt get a head coaching job in the nhl right?

Even though he was actively looking, putting his name out there and interviewing.

Good call.
There are a lot of coaches who haven't been employed for a while, including former cup winners (Crawford). There are only 30 head coaching jobs, and maybe 5 openings every year with probably twice as many candidates for the jobs. And even though nobody hired him to be a coach, I'm not sure how that affects his role in the office. Whining to whine.

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unless he came out and said, "hey, i applied for every opening with no biases (region, teams, situations, etc) in my choices", im not buying that argument.

and thats not cause im trying to back him - its because its just a bad argument.
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