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06-11-2012, 08:41 PM
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It's nice to know there's a reason why Colborne's production tailed off other than him being a dud, but then you have to wonder what MLSE is thinking running an injured prospect like that all season long instead of shutting him down and giving him the proper rehab...
Try telling a young prospect who is trying everything he can to prove he can play at the NHL level to shut it down. Speaks to his motivation and determination. Colborne has the size and skills to be an NHL player, no doubt in my mind, as to how successful he will be, time will tell. I could hear all the ankles being broken from Northern Ontario, once news got out about Joe's injury.

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If I were to guess on when he initially got injured, I would say that it was probably during the time of his first call-up in the regular season. After he was sent back down to the Marlies, his offense really took a hit for some inexplicable reason. This is probably why.
You're right here - i know someone who knows someone whos on the inside of the Marlies... said Colborne was fighting an injury ALL season.

Good news for us as it explains his lack of production.

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Damn some tough injuries that these guys took. Hope the best for their recovery. They had a great Calder run, but a lot of the top guys taking some serious injuries along the way.

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1st: a 3rd degree shoulder separation should have no long term effect on Kadri and should barely affect his offseason training with Gary Roberts (hopeful). An elite athlete with proper conditioning should heal up quickly.

2. Frattin's injury seems to be poorly reported. You do not get knee surgery on a MCL tear (even a 3rd degree). Something else is going on there. I'm not saying it's something worse, but may be.

3. Colborne. I'm not too sure why he wasn't shut down but it is common to play through wrist injuries. I seem to recall this debate in Lindros' year as a Leaf.

PS, be careful what you read in the media from injuries. They are often mistaken.

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1st: a 3rd degree shoulder separation should have no long term effect on Kadri and should barely affect his offseason training with Gary Roberts (hopeful). An elite athlete with proper conditioning should heal up quickly.

2. Frattin's injury seems to be poorly reported. You do not get knee surgery on a MCL tear (even a 3rd degree). Something else is going on there. I'm not saying it's something worse, but may be.

3. Colborne. I'm not too sure why he wasn't shut down but it is common to play through wrist injuries. I seem to recall this debate in Lindros' year as a Leaf.

PS, be careful what you read in the media from injuries. They are often mistaken.
you're right but the writer of the article later tweeted he was mistaken and the surgery was for his meniscus

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You're right here - i know someone who knows someone whos on the inside of the Marlies... said Colborne was fighting an injury ALL season.

Good news for us as it explains his lack of production.
Yes. Odd that he played on even though it killed him game but they must have had their reasons. it is a relief to know there is an explanation for the drop off. The good news with a wrist operation is it won't hurt his conditioning. Kadri is a little more problematic. I don't believe he can carry 195 pounds and still have his dangle, but there are actually guys who are really strong at 185 pounds. It takes as long or longer to build up the strength without adding weight and this is NKs push time to make the club for good. Precious time lost in the gym and unlike Joe, I don't see more time with the AHL club making him a better player. Maybe it won't set him back too badly but it would have been nice to give him the best chance to hit the deck running.

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you're right but the writer of the article later tweeted he was mistaken and the surgery was for his meniscus
Lol, that's great, and it's good news. I tweeted the writer this AM. Maybe he followed up on my twitter message.

"@KyleTheReporter: @dynrehab @MikeInBuffalo It was in fact his meniscus, not MCL."


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The recovery for a torn meniscus is 3-4 weeks tops.

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1st: a 3rd degree shoulder separation should have no long term effect on Kadri and should barely affect his offseason training with Gary Roberts (hopeful). An elite athlete with proper conditioning should heal up quickly.

2. Frattin's injury seems to be poorly reported. You do not get knee surgery on a MCL tear (even a 3rd degree). Something else is going on there. I'm not saying it's something worse, but may be.

3. Colborne. I'm not too sure why he wasn't shut down but it is common to play through wrist injuries. I seem to recall this debate in Lindros' year as a Leaf.

PS, be careful what you read in the media from injuries. They are often mistaken.
Yep, this.

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The recovery for a torn meniscus is 3-4 weeks tops.
FWIW I had a completely severed meniscus a few years ago and 4 weeks after my surgery it was like it never happened.

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FWIW I had a completely severed meniscus a few years ago and 4 weeks after my surgery it was like it never happened.
Yup, that's the way it works. It's good news for Matt.

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lmao it's only his meniscus? jesus, he'll be training again in a week if he isn't already now.

baseball players play entire seasons with torn meniscus'. i tore mine a few years back and it felt like new after 2 weeks of rest.

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Coloborne still needs to work on his skating, and particularly his edges/balance so hopefully his wrist surgery won't prevent him from improving his game over the summer.

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Lol, that's great, and it's good news. I tweeted the writer this AM. Maybe he followed up on my twitter message.

"@KyleTheReporter: @dynrehab @MikeInBuffalo It was in fact his meniscus, not MCL."
yup that's the exact tweet i read haha

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so our top 3 prospects are ruined
and no significant package deal can be made to land a star off another team

just another page to add to a loser organization
take it easy.....and get off the ledge.

Eakins said Kadri would have played in the next game if the Marlies had won. Kadri was real close to coming back.

Frattin is already on the mend and will be at camp.

Colborne is in the same boat as Frattin.

Injuries happen. It doesn't mean that their careers are over. It doesn't mean they have no value in a trade scenario.

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Winger Matt Frattin, who was injured on the final goal of the series clinching game against Oklahoma City on May 25th had a torn meniscus, which has already been surgically repaired.

Joe Colborne has been fighting through a serious wrist injury since November, which coincided with a startling drop in offensive production. The lanky young center is expected to have the wrist surgically repaired in the next few weeks and is expected to be ready for training camp in September.

Nazem Kadri, who was injured in Game 3 of the Oklahoma City series, suffered severe shoulder separation, but chose not to have it surgically repaired. He is expected to be back to 100% by the end of June.

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Thanks for the update, thats great news that kadri is 100% now. Its crucial for him to have the best offseason training hes ever had. I believe you that hes 100% it just worries me when i keep hearing about how serious grade 3 separations are.

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could be a good or a bad thing, only time will tell!

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surprised it would take this long for a torn meniscus, usually these fully recover rather quickly after surgery.

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I believe Burke stated earlier this week that Frattin's recovery was complicated and he might not be ready for the start of camp?!?
That is odd cus the start of camp is still about ten weeks away....Didnt he have the surgery about a month ago? Sounds like it might have been a lot more serious than just meniscus.

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1st: a 3rd degree shoulder separation should have no long term effect on Kadri and should barely affect his offseason training with Gary Roberts (hopeful). An elite athlete with proper conditioning should heal up quickly.

2. Frattin's injury seems to be poorly reported. You do not get knee surgery on a MCL tear (even a 3rd degree). Something else is going on there. I'm not saying it's something worse, but may be.

3. Colborne. I'm not too sure why he wasn't shut down but it is common to play through wrist injuries. I seem to recall this debate in Lindros' year as a Leaf.

PS, be careful what you read in the media from injuries. They are often mistaken.
If it's a complete tear -- you need surgery to re-attach.

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Whatever happened to the 4 week recovery for Frattin? What was actually wrong with his knee?

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This is ridiculous.

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yikes. hope these guys get better for camp.

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Whatever happened to the 4 week recovery for Frattin? What was actually wrong with his knee?
Must have been worse ones they got the scope in there.

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