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Boston Re-signs Chris Kelly (3 Years $12 Million)

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06-11-2012, 04:51 PM
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I think many of us are forgetting that the cap keeps going up, so player salaries are just going to go up with them. You add $6M to the cap ceiling in one summer, that's (theoretically) an extra $180 million to be thrown at UFAs and RFAs.

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And people laughed at the Jones money?.... This is the way the NHL is going folks.

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What's theoretically the maximum that this can be front loaded btw? Can they give him say $5.5 + $5.5 M for the first two yrs and then $1 M in the 3rd? Just wondering because I know he's not above 35 and I don't think the deal takes him past that age either.

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Report is wrong. MacKenzie with the real numbers:

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BOS agrees to terms with Chris Kelly on four-year, $12M deal and Gregory Campbell on three-year, $4.8M deal. AAVs of $3M and $1.6M.

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4 million dollars for a 3rd liner? Man, I hope we stay away from UFA.
I was thinking the exact same thing!!

That is insane!!

This league has a big problem when 35-40 point players (ie: Jones) get 4 million dollars a year?!

I'm a Habs fan and I'm worried that guys like Eller and Moen will be asking for 4million a year as well.

4 mill for a 3rd liner?!?! Wow! What will Bostons top 6 be expecting then?

If Chris Kelly is worth 4 million, what would Lucic be worth? 8 million?

Look at it this way... Malkin and Crosby produce 3 to 4 times more than Jones and Kelly yet they make the double in salary.

If I was Crosby I'd be asking for 12 mill a year minimum.

Chris Kelly won't bring butts to the arena seats, yet he will be paid as if he were a star.

Sad really.

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I think that's a bit of a stretch. Might be a bit high but 2 mil for a reliable veteran guy like that? Come on...

Let's face it the cap is 70M as it stands right now. Relative to that, it's not that bad for UFA money.
I don't know man, for me I've seen a lot of Kelly and loves what he brings to a hockey team, but I don't think he's worth a cent over 2.5. I mean he's great defensively, a hard worker, and he's a really good team guy, but he's not very good at hockey when it comes to playing in any area of the rink except his own end.

I don't pay more than 2.5 for a defensive specialist and third line player. He put up some nice numbers this year, but we all know he is nothing close to an offensive talent.

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Had me worried about the UFA market for a while there.

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The cap did not go up by 60% over the last two years.
It doesn't have to in order to be the cause of this. The top players will continue making about the same. Nobody's giving a $9m Cap hit to anyone at this point. The Cap hit is the determining factor, not the actual salary. It's the mid range players who receive the raises when the Cap goes up. So take the part of that 60% that would go to the highest earners if it was all spread evenly and reallocate it to the midrange guys, and that's why you're seeing the price for those kinds of UFAs skyrocket.

Edit: the point still stands, but $3m looks a lot better than $4m.

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lol calm down people its for FOUR years.

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BOS agrees to terms with Chris Kelly on four-year, $12M deal and Gregory Campbell on three-year, $4.8M deal. AAVs of $3M and $1.6M.

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Wow, if Sportsnet wasn't second rate before....

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$12m, 4 years. Still overpaid, but it's not *that* bad.

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$3 M is reasonable I guess, the 4 would've been brutal. This is loyalty for winning the cup and playing a role there as much as it is about having a slightly flukey career yr.

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4 years, $12M is definitely a lot more reasonable and market value. I don't think he's overpaid at that price.

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Much better. I'm content with 3M per for Kelly. 1.6M ain't bad for Soupy either, pretty valuable on our PK.

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Hello NHL lockout.

Craps getting out of control again, this time it only took 7 years. Great job NHL.


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Holy overpayment for a 3rd liner!

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4 years 12m

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Seems like people aren't realizing that prices are going up across the board. Small overpayment? Sure, when you compare the players, I'd rather Grabovski or Hemsky at 5.5 than Kelly at 3, but its not as ridiculous as some make it sound. If he only got 2 million, it would have been a steal.

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Wow, if Sportsnet wasn't second rate before....
They just keep shooting themselves in the foot time and time again.

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Hello NHL lockout.

Craps getting out of control again, this time it only took 7 years. Great job NHL.

Salaries go up because the cap goes up.

The cap goes up because the NHL and its teams are making more money.

Not sure what the problem is here.

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Makes more sense now at 3 million compared to 4. That's actually a pretty good price, although 4 yrs is quite long.

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Since it's confirmed,we'll close this bad boy up and move all discussion to the stickied thread, okeydokes?

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