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06-27-2012, 06:22 AM
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They went after Schenn because he has potential and they have the other Schenn

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06-27-2012, 08:35 AM
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Shane Doan to test market

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06-27-2012, 09:13 AM
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Sounds like Schultz wants to go to Vancouver, would be a great pick up for them

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06-27-2012, 10:09 AM
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They had one of the worst defenses in the league.



They had one of the worst PKs in the league.



Yes I give you those. But here's what you don't seem to get. Yeah, especially early on in the year they used him in that season in those roles. But the thing is, he FAILED at them. By the end of the year he wasn't doing any of that anymore because he COULDN'T. Before he got into the league people had no idea how bad his hockey IQ was because he wasn't playing against NHL caliber opposition.

He's not a "good defenseman who had a bad year". He's a bad defenseman who got exposed.

But he can hit.
1 . So did Chicago last year, I guess that means Hammer sucks

2. So did Chicago last year, I guess that means Hammer sucks.

3. You're wrong, like usual.

4. But Hammer can block shots.

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06-27-2012, 11:47 AM
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1 . So did Chicago last year, I guess that means Hammer sucks

2. So did Chicago last year, I guess that means Hammer sucks.

3. You're wrong, like usual.

4. But Hammer can block shots.
I didnt see Hammer completely removed from all defensive responsibilities like i did Schenn.

As for the "always wrong" crack, coming from you that pretty much assures me i'm right. Again. Because it's been a long time since i remember seeing you even remotely close to being right about anything, and you certainly arent about this... nor do two straight coaches agree with you either. Lol.

Good effort though!

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06-27-2012, 11:56 AM
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I didnt see Hammer completely removed from all defensive responsibilities like i did Schenn.

As for the "always wrong" crack, coming from you that pretty much assures me i'm right. Again. Because it's been a long time since i remember seeing you even remotely close to being right about anything, and you certainly arent about this... nor do two straight coaches agree with you either. Lol.

Good effort though!
Hammer wasn't barely even in the NHL at age 21, so ya he was removed from all defensive responsibilities when he was Schenns age.

Hammer should have been removed from defensive responsibilities this year when he failed to cover anyone in front of the net, doesn't hit, doesn't produce ANY offense, and get's lost when ever the puck is on his stick or near him. The only thing he is good for is blocking shots and poking the puck away from opponents.

Wake me up when a GM trades a JVR type player for Hammer, then maybe you will be right for once.

I can say the same for you, haven't seen you post something right for a long time.


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06-27-2012, 12:20 PM
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posted in another thread, but fitting here as well

really in shock right now that the Avalanche did not tender Peter Mueller an offer making the RFA now a UFA on July 1st....

a ton of teams are licking their chops over this as I can see Nashville as a prime candidate to sign this guy.

tons of skill and talent, can play LW or center, and has hands and vision that are lights out....just needs to stay healthy, but passing on this guy would be stupid if he can be had for cheap...Bowman should target him and see what the market offer is for this guy...would look great in a Hawks uniform, hopefully for whatever team he signs with, he looks good in their uniform and not on their IR list...

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06-27-2012, 12:26 PM
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If the Hawks sign Mueller, it has to be around $1 million and probably not more than one year. Not sure if that sounds insane to anyone, but he's just too prone to injury to give him anything more.

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Hammer wasn't barely even in the NHL at age 21, so ya he was removed from all defensive responsibilities when he was Schenns age.
Ah, suddenly age qualifications. Shift those goalposts when in doubt! Lol.

Anyways, if your, um..."hockey knowledge" tells you that the #7 and dropping defenseman on Team Failure is superior to a top 4 defenseman on a Cup winning team, you go with that. More power to you! After all, if we didnt have people with opinions like yours, how would us people who actually have the ability to judge player talent differentiate ourselves?



In the meantime, maybe work on making your own points instead of just copying mine and changing the names?

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06-27-2012, 01:20 PM
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Ah, suddenly age qualifications. Shift those goalposts when in doubt! Lol.

Anyways, if your, um..."hockey knowledge" tells you that the #7 and dropping defenseman on Team Failure is superior to a top 4 defenseman on a Cup winning team, you go with that. More power to you! After all, if we didnt have people with opinions like yours, how would us people who actually have the ability to judge player talent differentiate ourselves?



In the meantime, maybe work on making your own points instead of just copying mine and changing the names?
I said Schenn will be better eventually, and him being as good as Hammer last year at the age of 20, means he still has a lot more room to grow than Hammer does.

And I have admitted 15 thousand times that he had a bad year this past year, but he was the #2 Dman the previous year in Toronto ..so that shows that you have no hockey knowledge if you think a player can't rebound after a bad year. Hammer was a top 4 Dman on the cup team, and has done nothing but regress since then. He was a #5 Dman last year on a team that lost in the 1st round.

Time will prove me right, when Schenn is better than Hammer in a few years.

Schenns value >>>> Hammers value, and lots of GM's agree with me, so who doesn't have the hockey knowledge? You!

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06-27-2012, 02:27 PM
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Wow what are you doing, hitting refresh every 30 seconds? Lol

It is good to see that you understand schenn was bad last year but what you apparently missed was that he was never any better. By the second half of the season you claimed he was a #2 dman, he was ALREADY getting protected minutes and shielded from top lines. I was pointing it out in leaf threads back then, remember it well. He couldnt handle it, then OR now. The hype was just louder still then.

And you bought it.


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06-27-2012, 03:11 PM
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Wow what are you doing, hitting refresh every 30 seconds? Lol

It is good to see that you understand schenn was bad last year but what you apparently missed was that he was never any better. By the second half of the season you claimed he was a #2 dman, he was ALREADY getting protected minutes and shielded from top lines. I was pointing it out in leaf threads back then, remember it well. He couldnt handle it, then OR now. The hype was just louder still then.

And you bought it.
I didn't miss anything.
He was still a #2 Dman at the end of the 10-11 season.

Jan 1 2011 and on, he only palyed in 4 games with less than 19:40 TOI.
In 24 of those games, he played more than 22mins.

Ya, really sheltered.

So where are you getting your stats from? Because you're wrong, again.

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06-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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Wideman to Calgary for 5yrs/5.25mil AVV.

wow.

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06-27-2012, 03:20 PM
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Just imagine Bowman wouldn't have signed Oduya as early as he did. He would get 4+ million without any doubt for 3-5 years.

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06-27-2012, 03:44 PM
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Wideman to Calgary for 5yrs/5.25mil AVV.

wow.
Can someone explain to me what the Flames are doing ,, Over last 7 years?

Terrible at draft (This year another laughable chapter)
Terrible at contracts (They seem to overpay for bad/mediocre players)
Terrible at trades (They lose almost all of them ,,)

Its like this team enjoyes finishing 9th-11th every year

Wideman is not worth that ,, It is too much and too long

He also has too many issues in his own end and if the Flames idea is to dump J-bo with Wideman as his replacement then there team D just got alot worse

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40 years ago today, Bobby Hull signed w/ the Winnipeg Jets.

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06-27-2012, 03:48 PM
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Wideman sucks.

The Flames are truly a bottom 3 organization in the NHL.

That contract is absolutely ridiculous.

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06-27-2012, 03:52 PM
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40 years ago today, Bobby Hull signed w/ the Winnipeg Jets.
And that means 40 years ago today, my dad started hating the Wirtz family.

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06-27-2012, 04:10 PM
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That Wideman contract is just brutal. So thankful Bowman locked up Oduya when he did.

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kinda funny that its two guys who both have a good chance to finish the season on another team/out of the NHL.

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That Wideman contract is just brutal. So thankful Bowman locked up Oduya when he did.
i'm not.

Like even slightly. Regardless of what he gets paid oduya sucks and is just going to give Q another player to over/mis use and hurt the team.

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That Wideman contract is just brutal. So thankful Bowman locked up Oduya when he did.
Why?

We overpaid a 3rd pairing d man who is redundant on our roster and does nothing well.

We should've stayed far away at any price.

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Why?

We overpaid a 3rd pairing d man who is redundant on our roster and does nothing well.

We should've stayed far away at any price.
Because if not, they'd be paying another 3rd pairing defenseman even more to do the same thing.

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I'd rather pay a 3rd pairing d man to do something different: play defense and PK.

Hannan and Lundin would be my two targets.

Ideally though I'd rather pay a 2nd pairing d man to also do something different: play defense and PK.

Allen would cost a bit more but would be worth it.

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