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View Poll Results: How do you feel Jay Feaster has done so far?
Excellent, has done a great job 12 24.00%
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06-09-2012, 12:51 PM
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Jay Feaster

How do you guys feel about him? I personally am a big fan and have liked mostly everything he has done so far.

His moves so far (Thanks to Medium Rare) :


Released JD Watt
Waived Craig Conroy
Waived Ales Kotalik
Hired Craig Conroy to be "Special Assistant to the GM"
Waived Niklas Hagman
Waived Ales Kotalik (again)
Claimed Brett Carson off waivers
Traded a 7th in 2011 for Freddy Modin
Waived Ales Kotalik (Third times a charm!)
Signed Joni Ortio to an ELC
Signed Craig Conroy to a 4-year contract as Special Assistant to the GM
Signed Curtis Glencross
Released the rights to former draft picks Alexander Deilert, Henrik Bjorklund & Spencer Bennett
Traded Tim Erixon & a 5th in 2011 for two 2nd round picks in 2011
Hired Jamie Pringle as a senior video analyst
Signed Brett Carson
Signed Henrik Karlsson
Signed Alex Tanguay
Traded Robyn Regehr, Ales Kotalik & a 2nd in 2012 for Chris Butler & Paul Byron
Drafted Sven Bartschi, Markus Granlund, Tyler Wotherspoon, Johnny Gaudreau & Laurent Brossoit
Did not tender qualifying offers to Gord Baldwin, Hugo Carpentier, John Armstrong, Josh Meyers & Matt Pelech
Qualified Brendan Mikkelson, Chris Butler & Leland Irving
Hired John Weisbrod as Assistant GM
Hired Chris Snow as director of video and statistical analysis
Hired Troy Ward as AHL Head Coach
Signed Carter Bancks
Signed Chris Butler
Signed Joe Piskula
Signed Ben Walter
Signed Clay Wilson
Signed Anton Babchuk
Signed Guillaume Desbiens
Signed Sven Baertschi to ELC
Signed Leland Irving
Traded Keith Seabrook for Jordan Henry
Signed Jordan Henry
Signed Derek Smith
Signed Brendan Mikkelson
Signed Max Reinhart to ELC
Traded a 5th in 2012 for P3L
Signed Brendan Morrison
Signed Scott Hannan
Traded Daymond Langkow for Lee Stempniak
Signed James Martin to ELC
Signed Turner Elson to ELC
Waived Raitis Ivanans
Waived Niklas Hagman
Waived Niklas Hagman (re-entry waivers, claimed by Anaheim)
Claimed Blake Comeau off waivers
Signed Michael Ferland to ELC
Traded Brendan Mikkelson for Blair Jones
Traded Rene Bourque, Patrick Holland and a 2nd in 2013 for Mike Cammalleri, Karri Ramo & a 5th in 2012
Waived Brett Carson
Traded Brendan Morrison for Brian Connelly
Traded John Negrin for Akim Aliu
Signed Krys Kolanos
Signed Derek Smith
Waived Krys Kolanos (for a recall)
Signed Tim Jackman
Signed David Eddy to ELC
Signed Brady Lamb to ELC
Released Brent Sutter
Fired Dave Lowry
Signed Roman Cervenka
Hired Bob Hartley


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06-09-2012, 01:02 PM
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Doing the best with his supposed limitations. Aside from trading away a 5th and a 7th for essentially nothing I've been alright with what he's done. The 2011 draft was very good for us and I have high expectations on the Flames management to draft great players.

We should be judging the higher ups who apparently put limits on Feaster's moves.

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06-09-2012, 01:20 PM
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The last deadline pissed me off. And he's made some boneheaded moves, but who hasn't I guess. I think he made for it by letting Sutter walk/go. Had he extended Sutter, I would've been marching to the Saddledome with pitchforks and torches.

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06-09-2012, 01:23 PM
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So far so good for Feaster... Aside from alleged/possible limitations by ownership I think more importantly he was bound by NTC's and NMC's left in the Wake of Darryl Sutters reign as GM... I do not like all of the moves he has made, but he has had limitations due to availability of potential trade targets, the cost of potential players due to the cap limit, trade value of existing players that were expendable and limitations of who could be traded without waiving their contract rights... Add to that, there were/are some bad contracts handed out before his time that were just taking up space in the 50 contract limit...

This off season and the upcoming season will better define his capabilities and performance on the job, as he will have better opportunity to make the necessary changes... So time will tell...

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The last deadline pissed me off. And he's made some boneheaded moves, but who hasn't I guess. I think he made for it by letting Sutter walk/go. Had he extended Sutter, I would've been marching to the Saddledome with pitchforks and torches.
I agree someone like Sarich would've given us something; but this team likes to think any player=a good player, so they aren't worth trading away for a pick or something. We could've still been competitive without Babchuk/Sarich. Now they're about to walk to free agency.

It would've made it easier for him to "get picks back", which by the way is something he said last year.

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I agree someone like Sarich would've given us something; but this team likes to think any player=a good player, so they aren't worth trading away for a pick or something. We could've still been competitive without Babchuk/Sarich. Now they're about to walk to free agency.

It would've made it easier for him to "get picks back", which by the way is something he said last year.
Babchuck has a NTC until next years deadline so we couldn't trade him unless he wanted to. Agreed on Sarich we should have traded him and TKO/Jackman and let the young players finish the year.

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The last deadline pissed me off. And he's made some boneheaded moves, but who hasn't I guess. I think he made for it by letting Sutter walk/go. Had he extended Sutter, I would've been marching to the Saddledome with pitchforks and torches.
fortunately his bonehead moves have been very minor, which is a good sign.

I also think it would be good to post a list of Feaster transactions since taking over as GM, so here goes nothing:
  • Released JD Watt
  • Waived Craig Conroy
  • Waived Ales Kotalik
  • Hired Craig Conroy to be "Special Assistant to the GM"
  • Waived Niklas Hagman
  • Waived Ales Kotalik (again)
  • Claimed Brett Carson off waivers
  • Traded a 7th in 2011 for Freddy Modin
  • Waived Ales Kotalik (Third times a charm!)
  • Signed Joni Ortio to an ELC
  • Signed Craig Conroy to a 4-year contract as Special Assistant to the GM
  • Signed Curtis Glencross
  • Released the rights to former draft picks Alexander Deilert, Henrik Bjorklund & Spencer Bennett
  • Traded Tim Erixon & a 5th in 2011 for two 2nd round picks in 2011
  • Hired Jamie Pringle as a senior video analyst
  • Signed Brett Carson
  • Signed Henrik Karlsson
  • Signed Alex Tanguay
  • Traded Robyn Regehr, Ales Kotalik & a 2nd in 2012 for Chris Butler & Paul Byron
  • Drafted Sven Bartschi, Markus Granlund, Tyler Wotherspoon, Johnny Gaudreau & Laurent Brossoit
  • Did not tender qualifying offers to Gord Baldwin, Hugo Carpentier, John Armstrong, Josh Meyers & Matt Pelech
  • Qualified Brendan Mikkelson, Chris Butler & Leland Irving
  • Hired John Weisbrod as Assistant GM
  • Hired Chris Snow as director of video and statistical analysis
  • Hired Troy Ward as AHL Head Coach
  • Signed Carter Bancks
  • Signed Chris Butler
  • Signed Joe Piskula
  • Signed Ben Walter
  • Signed Clay Wilson
  • Signed Anton Babchuk
  • Signed Guillaume Desbiens
  • Signed Sven Baertschi to ELC
  • Signed Leland Irving
  • Traded Keith Seabrook for Jordan Henry
  • Signed Jordan Henry
  • Signed Derek Smith
  • Signed Brendan Mikkelson
  • Signed Max Reinhart to ELC
  • Traded a 5th in 2012 for P3L
  • Signed Brendan Morrison
  • Signed Scott Hannan
  • Traded Daymond Langkow for Lee Stempniak
  • Signed James Martin to ELC
  • Signed Turner Elson to ELC
  • Waived Raitis Ivanans
  • Waived Niklas Hagman
  • Waived Niklas Hagman (re-entry waivers, claimed by Anaheim)
  • Claimed Blake Comeau off waivers
  • Signed Michael Ferland to ELC
  • Traded Brendan Mikkelson for Blair Jones
  • Traded Rene Bourque, Patrick Holland and a 2nd in 2013 for Mike Cammalleri, Karri Ramo & a 5th in 2012
  • Waived Brett Carson
  • Traded Brendan Morrison for Brian Connelly
  • Traded John Negrin for Akim Aliu
  • Signed Krys Kolanos
  • Signed Derek Smith
  • Waived Krys Kolanos (for a recall)
  • Signed Tim Jackman
  • Signed David Eddy to ELC
  • Signed Brady Lamb to ELC
  • Fired Brent Sutter
  • Fired Dave Lowry
  • Signed Roman Cervenka
  • Hired Bob Hartley

I really think when his "bad" moves consist of a few smaller contracts and trading a 5th and 7th, he has done pretty damn good

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fortunately his bonehead moves have been very minor, which is a good sign.

I also think it would be good to post a list of Feaster transactions since taking over as GM, so here goes nothing:
  • Released JD Watt
  • Waived Craig Conroy
  • Waived Ales Kotalik
  • Hired Craig Conroy to be "Special Assistant to the GM"
  • Waived Niklas Hagman
  • Waived Ales Kotalik (again)
  • Claimed Brett Carson off waivers
  • Traded a 7th in 2011 for Freddy Modin
  • Waived Ales Kotalik (Third times a charm!)
  • Signed Joni Ortio to an ELC
  • Signed Craig Conroy to a 4-year contract as Special Assistant to the GM
  • Signed Curtis Glencross
  • Released the rights to former draft picks Alexander Deilert, Henrik Bjorklund & Spencer Bennett
  • Traded Tim Erixon & a 5th in 2011 for two 2nd round picks in 2011
  • Hired Jamie Pringle as a senior video analyst
  • Signed Brett Carson
  • Signed Henrik Karlsson
  • Signed Alex Tanguay
  • Traded Robyn Regehr, Ales Kotalik & a 2nd in 2012 for Chris Butler & Paul Byron
  • Drafted Sven Bartschi, Markus Granlund, Tyler Wotherspoon, Johnny Gaudreau & Laurent Brossoit
  • Did not tender qualifying offers to Gord Baldwin, Hugo Carpentier, John Armstrong, Josh Meyers & Matt Pelech
  • Qualified Brendan Mikkelson, Chris Butler & Leland Irving
  • Hired John Weisbrod as Assistant GM
  • Hired Chris Snow as director of video and statistical analysis
  • Hired Troy Ward as AHL Head Coach
  • Signed Carter Bancks
  • Signed Chris Butler
  • Signed Joe Piskula
  • Signed Ben Walter
  • Signed Clay Wilson
  • Signed Anton Babchuk
  • Signed Guillaume Desbiens
  • Signed Sven Baertschi to ELC
  • Signed Leland Irving
  • Traded Keith Seabrook for Jordan Henry
  • Signed Jordan Henry
  • Signed Derek Smith
  • Signed Brendan Mikkelson
  • Signed Max Reinhart to ELC
  • Traded a 5th in 2012 for P3L
  • Signed Brendan Morrison
  • Signed Scott Hannan
  • Traded Daymond Langkow for Lee Stempniak
  • Signed James Martin to ELC
  • Signed Turner Elson to ELC
  • Waived Raitis Ivanans
  • Waived Niklas Hagman
  • Waived Niklas Hagman (re-entry waivers, claimed by Anaheim)
  • Claimed Blake Comeau off waivers
  • Signed Michael Ferland to ELC
  • Traded Brendan Mikkelson for Blair Jones
  • Traded Rene Bourque, Patrick Holland and a 2nd in 2013 for Mike Cammalleri, Karri Ramo & a 5th in 2012
  • Waived Brett Carson
  • Traded Brendan Morrison for Brian Connelly
  • Traded John Negrin for Akim Aliu
  • Signed Krys Kolanos
  • Signed Derek Smith
  • Waived Krys Kolanos (for a recall)
  • Signed Tim Jackman
  • Signed David Eddy to ELC
  • Signed Brady Lamb to ELC
  • Fired Brent Sutter
  • Fired Dave Lowry
  • Signed Roman Cervenka
  • Hired Bob Hartley

I really think when his "bad" moves consist of a few smaller contracts and trading a 5th and 7th, he has done pretty damn good
Thanks I updated the OP.

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Thanks I updated the OP.
no problem, I took it off of prosprtstransactions.com

I love that site, the only think i saw missing was Chris Snow which I added in (I think he was hired at the same time as Weisbrod) and then I removed the hiring of Cloutier and Malarchuk and the hiring/firing of Hartsburg as they were decisions made by the head coaches

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I still think moving both of our 2nds was pretty bone headed. The Cammy one wasnt so bad but the Reggie one was just horrible.

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I still think moving both of our 2nds was pretty bone headed. The Cammy one wasnt so bad but the Reggie one was just horrible.
It wasn't great but he did what he had to to get rid of Kotalik.

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I really think when his "bad" moves consist of a few smaller contracts and trading a 5th and 7th, he has done pretty damn good
I think his bad moves are more the lack of moves he made at the trade deadline. I would be more critical of the lack of moving expiring assets for futures.

However, with that being said, he has done good with every other aspect of the team up to this point.

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I think his bad moves are more the lack of moves he made at the trade deadline. I would be more critical of the lack of moving expiring assets for futures.

However, with that being said, he has done good with every other aspect of the team up to this point.
the ownership mandate is to try and make the playoffs, his hands were tied. You don't trade away current assets while you are right in the middle of a playoff race and expect to keep your job. Especially since in year 1 the Flames were in a playoff spot at the deadline and this year everyone was hurt.

Feaster did the only thing he could do, nothing.

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I have a lot of faith in him.

It's not just what he's done, but what he's tried to do which earns points in my eyes. He was pretty aggressive going for Kyle Turris and Brad Richards, which to me is a good sign. It makes me think the Flames will be a major player whenever someone good hits UFA or is on the trade block.

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I have a lot of faith in him.

It's not just what he's done, but what he's tried to do which earns points in my eyes. He was pretty aggressive going for Kyle Turris and Brad Richards, which to me is a good sign. It makes me think the Flames will be a major player whenever someone good hits UFA or is on the trade block.
great point and with Turris he showed he won't sell the farm in a trade.

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I still think moving both of our 2nds was pretty bone headed. The Cammy one wasnt so bad but the Reggie one was just horrible.
I think with the Regehr trade, ownership was heavily involved.

The way the deal was originally reported to have broken down was Regehr for Byron and Butler. That deal was all but agreed upon, but Feaster then comes in and says Kotalik needs to be in there as well. The Sabres GM says fine, but either remove Byron or throw in a 2nd. Since Feaster wanted Bryon badly for some reason, he throws in the 2nd.

The reason why it seems ownership had it's hand in this comes from the fact that months later, the Sabres would loan Kotalik to a team in Europe, while paying a part of his 3M salary. The Flames could have done the same and saved that 2nd round pick and kept Byron, but they didn't. More peculiar is that the club already went that route with Nilsson just a few years prior. Seems pretty clear ownership just wanted Kotalik's salary off the books.

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I think with the Regehr trade, ownership was heavily involved.

The way the deal was originally reported to have broken down was Regehr for Byron and Butler. That deal was all but agreed upon, but Feaster then comes in and says Kotalik needs to be in there as well. The Sabres GM says fine, but either remove Byron or throw in a 2nd. Since Feaster wanted Bryon badly for some reason, he throws in the 2nd.

The reason why it seems ownership had it's hand in this comes from the fact that months later, the Sabres would loan Kotalik to a team in Europe, while paying a part of his 3M salary. The Flames could have done the same and saved that 2nd round pick and kept Byron, but they didn't. More peculiar is that the club already went that route with Nilsson just a few years prior. Seems pretty clear ownership just wanted Kotalik's salary off the books.
I think it was known that Feaster was going to make a big pitch for Richards (I think its fair to think a contract of that magnitude would need owners approval) and I think ownership told Jay that if he didn't move Kotalik's $3 million he didn't have approval on the Richards contract offer. Because Kotalik was clearly a money saving move and not a cap move, unless the combination Tanguay contract and Richards contract would have put us over the 10% summer cushion?

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The real tale of the tape will be the hiring of Hartley, which is the biggest move he's made so far.

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I like it so far. It's much too early to tell.
He's drafted strong, he hasn't sold what's left of the farm (the remaining rusted tools and some of the seeds) and he's done some deals that have helped the Flames get out of a full swing cap mess.

It will take a few years for us to actually tell if Feaster is a brilliant man or same old. I think he's done a better job lining Calgary up down the road than he's given credit (most sites have Calgary ranked in the bottom 10 in prospects, not of his doing of course, but I think in a couple years we'll see a bigger jump).

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I have heard from a few people I trust that there was a deal for Regehr to SJ that would have had a better return than the Buffalo one, but then ownership stuck their nose into it. Apparently Regehr had told them he would only waive for SJ, so Feaster set up a deal. The ownership wanted to set an example for the other players in the organization with NTC/NMC's and told him he was being traded to Buffalo. This of course resulted in the little media fiasco where people knew the trade was going to happen, but the hold up was in Regehr waiving. Believe it or not, it's up to you.

I'm still not thrilled with the deal that went down with Buffalo, but what's done is done unfortunately. There isn't a whole lot available where our pick was in the 2nd round that I'm absolutely frothing at the mouth to have, but still.

Anyways, Feaster as a whole I've been fairly pleased with so far. He has made the team younger and more skilled, which I can be quite happy with. I'll give him another year, and if he doesn't move out vets if we're out of the race, then I'll become critical. That and ownership.

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^^What was the rumored return from SJ then?

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^^What was the rumored return from SJ then?
I think it was a Calgary Puck rumor, meaning its likely complete bull

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Because Kotalik was clearly a money saving move and not a cap move, unless the combination Tanguay contract and Richards contract would have put us over the 10% summer cushion?
Don't think so. The Flames were roughly at 61M with a 21 man roster going into July last season. That includes Langkow, Kotalik and Hagman but not Babchuk or Morrison who were signed later. They could have spent up to 70M with the 10% cushion so Feasters offer of just over 7M a season would have fit.

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I think it was known that Feaster was going to make a big pitch for Richards (I think its fair to think a contract of that magnitude would need owners approval) and I think ownership told Jay that if he didn't move Kotalik's $3 million he didn't have approval on the Richards contract offer.
Maybe. The whole situation seems a little muddled. If Kotalik was moved for purely salary reasons then could they not have moved Hagman instead, especially if it was going to take moving assets just to get rid of Kotalik. It was rumored Anaheim offered a 4th rounder for Hagman but Feaster turned them down because he wanted more. Aside from the poor optics of such a move, it would have made far more sense since it was evident for some time that Hagman was no longer in the clubs plans going forward.

At the same time however, if the owners were seriously going to prevent Feaster from acquiring the long sought after and desperately needed number one centre because of a superfluous $3 million (some of which could have saved by moving the contract to Europe) I would have to seriously question their commitment to winning.

My guess is that the owners told Feaster to just get Kotalik off the books anyway he could since they didn't want him and he didn't want to be here. Either the rumors about Hagman were false or the Flames management refused to move in an effort to save face or perhaps thought they could get more for him at a later point in time. I think Richards was unconnected.

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I have heard from a few people I trust that there was a deal for Regehr to SJ that would have had a better return than the Buffalo one, but then ownership stuck their nose into it. Apparently Regehr had told them he would only waive for SJ, so Feaster set up a deal. The ownership wanted to set an example for the other players in the organization with NTC/NMC's and told him he was being traded to Buffalo. This of course resulted in the little media fiasco where people knew the trade was going to happen, but the hold up was in Regehr waiving. Believe it or not, it's up to you.
From what I recall, the Sharks offered McGinn and a 2nd or 3rd (may have been a 4th) and something else but pulled the offer after the Wild agreed to the Burns trade.

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Don't think so. The Flames were roughly at 61M with a 21 man roster going into July last season. That includes Langkow, Kotalik and Hagman but not Babchuk or Morrison who were signed later. They could have spent up to 70M with the 10% cushion so Feasters offer of just over 7M a season would have fit.


Maybe. The whole situation seems a little muddled. If Kotalik was moved for purely salary reasons then could they not have moved Hagman instead, especially if it was going to take moving assets just to get rid of Kotalik. It was rumored Anaheim offered a 4th rounder for Hagman but Feaster turned them down because he wanted more. Aside from the poor optics of such a move, it would have made far more sense since it was evident for some time that Hagman was no longer in the clubs plans going forward.

At the same time however, if the owners were seriously going to prevent Feaster from acquiring the long sought after and desperately needed number one centre because of a superfluous $3 million (some of which could have saved by moving the contract to Europe) I would have to seriously question their commitment to winning.

My guess is that the owners told Feaster to just get Kotalik off the books anyway he could since they didn't want him and he didn't want to be here. Either the rumors about Hagman were false or the Flames management refused to move in an effort to save face or perhaps thought they could get more for him at a later point in time. I think Richards was unconnected.
There is a big difference between Hagman and Kotalik though. Hagman would have made $3 million playing in the NHL. Kotalik would have been paid $3 million to play overseas since it was rumored that he wouldn't play in Abbotsford. So you are right about them saying to get rid of Kotalik IMO, but it was as a cost saving measure involving a budget, and that budget would have been to make room for Richards

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