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06-12-2012, 03:10 PM
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Sal, Gio, Carter. Zajac and Kovy both had some great games and some stinkers.

Also, credit to Marty who started the playoffs poorly (first half of the Florida series and early on vs. Philly) and ended up being great for the next 15 or so games.

Clutch points for Henrique, but overall he was underwhelming.

I don't want to criticize players, but I'll just say that I expected more from Fayne, Parise, and Elias in particular.

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06-12-2012, 03:29 PM
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Zajac was a MASSIVE part of our run as well and for someone that missed the entire year, he played great for us down the stretch.
Ya, there was a time when Zajac was our leading Conn Smythe candidate. Fell off a bit at the end of the playoffs, but a beast for the first two rounds.

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Must have been the Lundqvist softy. After that Zajac's point production slipped!

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The 4th line certainly wins in terms of "exceeded expectation," but you guys can't possibly think they were more important than Parise or Kovalchuk overall.

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The 4th line certainly wins in terms of "exceeded expectation," but you guys can't possibly think they were more important than Parise or Kovalchuk overall.
Without them we don't beat the Panthers or the Rangers. I don't know, they were pretty crucial pieces for the run.

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4th line, and Marty hands down the all stars against the Rangers. Marty had to steal a couple games, and the 4th line produced the most offense.

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06-12-2012, 03:50 PM
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Without them we don't beat the Panthers or the Rangers. I don't know, they were pretty crucial pieces for the run.
Kovalchuk was directly responsible for like three of our OT winners.

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06-12-2012, 04:05 PM
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Yes he does. Had he been properly utilized he very well may have been my MVP but we'll never know.

Trying is not doing, and what Pete was doing with him really had him trying too hard imo.

Sometimes less is more? At any rate I look forward to a healthy Kovy in next year's playoffs.
Kovalchuk was a huge part of the Devils' success and he wasn't even 100%. I get really excited thinking about how he'll perform in a playoff run at full health.

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06-12-2012, 04:06 PM
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Without them we don't beat the Panthers or the Rangers. I don't know, they were pretty crucial pieces for the run.

1. Kovalchuk 8-11-19
2. Parise 8-7-15
3. Zajac 7-7-14
4. Salvador 4-10-14
5. Henrique 5-8-13

11. Carter 5-2-7
12. Gionta 3-4-7
13. Bernier 2-5-7

I realize the 4th line scored some big goals, but Kovalchuk by himself only had 2 fewer goals and 2 fewer points than Carter, Gionta, and Bernier combined.

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06-12-2012, 04:17 PM
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1. Kovalchuk 8-11-19
2. Parise 8-7-15
3. Zajac 7-7-14
4. Salvador 4-10-14
5. Henrique 5-8-13

11. Carter 5-2-7
12. Gionta 3-4-7
13. Bernier 2-5-7

I realize the 4th line scored some big goals, but Kovalchuk by himself only had 2 fewer goals and 2 fewer points than Carter, Gionta, and Bernier combined.
Well, he`s paid to do just that.

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4th line and marty gets my vote too

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06-12-2012, 05:20 PM
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Kovalchuk was a huge part of the Devils' success and he wasn't even 100%. I get really excited thinking about how he'll perform in a playoff run at full health.
Me too. Kovy was definitely labouring on the ice for the last couple rounds. At full health, he'd be much more effective. Hopefully we'll see him carry us in a future playoff run.

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06-12-2012, 05:59 PM
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1. sal (was the most consistent and it was hilarious how successful he was offensively)
1b. marty (was a little shaky in the first round but carried us in the finals. would have been the conn smythe winner)
3. henrique (for sheer importance of his points)
4. 4th line collectively (carter was the best but they all fed off each other)
5. kovy (despite lulls of poor play, he stepped up huge in key situations throughout the playoffs until he just couldn't do it anymore in the finals)

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06-12-2012, 06:00 PM
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sal, marty, henrique

in that order for me.

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I go Marty

Salvador played great the first 2 rounds then regressed a bit after that IMO

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06-12-2012, 06:14 PM
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Kovalchuk deserves a lot of credit for leading the team in scoring despite being gimped up for three out of four rounds.
Which round was he not gimped up in?

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06-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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1)Marty
2)Zach
3)Henrique
4)Gionta
5)Salvador

Love Kovy, and yes his point total despite injury was super impressive, but if Im judging his play alone, it was not very good.

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06-12-2012, 06:25 PM
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Which round was he not gimped up in?
He was healthy for most of the first round, the problems didn't start until Game 5, I believe.

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He was healthy for most of the first round, the problems didn't start until Game 5, I believe.
Deboer said in an interview with Francessa that the injury had been in a problem since the start of the playoffs.

I thought something was up at least a month b4 the reg season ended.

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I would bet Kovy's injury dates back to the last week+ of the regular season. He got noticeably worse right around when we clinched. I figured he was saving himself a bit for the big dance, but he wasn't any better in round 1. The injury rumors/suspicions finally came around game 4 or 5 of round 1.

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Kovalchuk was a huge part of the Devils' success and he wasn't even 100%. I get really excited thinking about how he'll perform in a playoff run at full health.
And now is the time to say it.

This was his 2nd postseason ever, after 5 years of missing the POs.

He was leading all forwards in TOI during the regular season (thanks to not having a competent 4th line, Parise being fresh off the injury - no double shifting, not having a good puck movers on the PP, trying to help his defensive game - stickwork in particular - by playing him on the PK). The so-called trust truly "payed off" in the POs. As much as I love the fact he`s a big man who hasn`t really had much injury issues during his career, I`m pretty sure his current injury has something if not a lot to do with that. Just as I`m sure that Larsson`s consistency problems and longer mid-season recovery after the Subban hit were partially caused by the excessive TOI given to him early in the season.

Many players have gone through this. The so-called challenge usually comes back to *****slap you, sooner or later.

Marian Hossa`s exceptional 2011-12 season happened for a reason.

Just my opinion. I hope Trottier is lurking and giggles somewhere in the sunny California. I also hope our coaching staff will be smarter next year.

I`m a firm believer they will. Get well soon, Ilya. We will need you back next year. Faster, stronger, smarter.


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It's Marty for me. I just think ever since game 6 vs the Panthers he locked it down. He was great since then. This was the best I've seen him play in years and the best playoffs for him since '03. He was unreal.

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06-12-2012, 06:55 PM
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And now is the time to say it.

This was his 2nd postseason ever, after 5 years of missing the POs.

He was leading all forwards in TOI during the regular season (thanks to not having a competent 4th line, Parise being fresh off the injury - no double shifting, not having a good puck movers on the PP, trying to help his defensive game - stickwork in particular - by playing him on the PK). The so-called trust truly "payed off" in the POs. As much as I love the fact he`s a big man who hasn`t really had much injury issues during his career, I`m pretty sure his current injury has something if not a lot to do with that. Just as I`m sure that Larsson`s consistency problems and longer mid-season recovery after the Subban hit were partially caused by the excessive TOI given to him early in the season.

Many players have gone through this. The so-called challenge usually comes back to *****slap you, sooner or later.

Marian Hossa`s exceptional 2011-12 season happened for a reason.

Just my opinion. I hope Trottier is lurking and giggles somewhere in the sunny California. I also hope our coaching staff will be smarter next year.

I`m a firm believer they will. Get well soon, Ilya. We will need you back next year. Faster, stronger, smarter.

Thinking the same, do not overwork Kovy next year. Cut the TOI down to a more respectable level. Though I do love a healthy Kovy on the PK. Short handed goals dried up, and kill % plummeted late in the reg and in the playoffs. Due in large part imo to Kovy being hurt.

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I go Marty

Salvador played great the first 2 rounds then regressed a bit after that IMO
Your entitled to your selection but Sal scored the game winner in game 5 and shut things down in the crease. We don't have a game 6 without him there.

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