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07-02-2012, 03:04 PM
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8000? KHL average is ~5000. LEV Poprad was considered a success with less than that.
Poprad had attendance above 95% of arena´s capacity. I hope you know it

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07-02-2012, 03:13 PM
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8000? KHL average is ~5000. LEV Poprad was considered a success with less than that.
I didn't realise how small the arena's were

but I've been told bigger one's are being built so that figure doesn't look that bad

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Poprad had attendance above 95% of arena´s capacity. I hope you know it
Nice, and your point is?

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Nice, and your point is?
you claim that Poprad was success with attendance less than 5000. Poprad had capacity of 4500, so could not have attendance above 5000

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07-02-2012, 03:36 PM
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you claim that Poprad was success with attendance less than 5000. Poprad had capacity of 4500, so could not have attendance above 5000
Yes. I still don't understand your point. I was not trying to sell Poprad short if you mean that. But vsk92 seemed to think a KHL franchise in Milan would need to draw ~8000 spectators to be considered a success. Definitely not the case, that's what I wanted to point out.

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ok, my fault

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07-02-2012, 04:19 PM
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ok, my fault
No problem.

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Yes. I still don't understand your point. I was not trying to sell Poprad short if you mean that. But vsk92 seemed to think a KHL franchise in Milan would need to draw ~8000 spectators to be considered a success. Definitely not the case, that's what I wanted to point out.
How much do KHL tickets cost? SM-liiga can have that kind of spectators easily, I wonder why in the league they dont pay millions salaries.

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07-03-2012, 04:52 AM
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How much do KHL tickets cost? SM-liiga can have that kind of spectators easily, I wonder why in the league they dont pay millions salaries.
Because there are no oil fields in Finland?

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Because there are no oil fields in Finland?
Because Finnish teams have strict budgets(2,5-3 million euros biggest overall budgets for top teams) and no sugar daddies?

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Because Finnish teams have strict budgets(2,5-3 million euros biggest overall budgets for top teams) and no sugar daddies?
Wrong again... 2,5-3,€ is just player salaries, biggest budget was Lukko's budget which was about 8m€ = about 10m$.

Sry offtopic.

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As I know minimal salary cap in KHL is 6 million euros. So I dont see any problem for finnish clubs to reach it.

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As I know minimal salary cap in KHL is 6 million euros. So I dont see any problem for finnish clubs to reach it.
I hope we'll get a KHL team one day but I'm afraid our SM-liiga is too strong here so there wouldn't be enough fans for the new KHL team. Especially if the budget is about the same than top SM-liiga teams have.

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07-03-2012, 09:55 AM
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As I know minimal salary cap in KHL is 6 million euros. So I dont see any problem for finnish clubs to reach it.
2,5-3 Mio ≠ 6 Mio. Finnish clubs would have to increase their salary budgets by 100-140% to even reach the KHL cap floor if the numbers are correct.

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2,5-3 Mio ≠ 6 Mio. Finnish clubs would have to increase their salary budgets by 100-140% to even reach the KHL cap floor if the numbers are correct.
And? Slovan and HC LEV have no problem with it. Why should finnish clubs have?

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And? Slovan and HC LEV have no problem with it. Why should finnish clubs have?
I don't know enough about where Slovan and Lev get their money from. Any insight?

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How much are tickets for SKA matches or any of the Moscow teams?? Thinking of going over to one in 2013

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Wrong again... 2,5-3,€ is just player salaries, biggest budget was Lukko's budget which was about 8m€ = about 10m$.

Sry offtopic.
Player salaries = salary cap, same thing practically.

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And? Slovan and HC LEV have no problem with it. Why should finnish clubs have?
Like I said, no rich sugar daddies.

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Like I said, no rich sugar daddies.
not needed to play KHL

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not needed to play KHL
Yes it is. No Finn is stupid enough to go to KHL with an SM-liiga budget/player salary. In fact the travel costs alone would drive the cost far too big.

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07-03-2012, 01:25 PM
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Yes it is. No Finn is stupid enough to go to KHL with an SM-liiga budget/player salary. In fact the travel costs alone would drive the cost far too big.
Look, I have experience with KHL clubs in my country, you dont. So, I have more info than you. Slovan has sponsors which had in slovak league but sponsors give now more than before (KHL is bigger market). Plus Slovan has new sponsors which are interested in russian market. I see no reason why this should not work in Finland or elsewhere. Btw Finland has bigger companies than Slovakia, am I right?

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How much are tickets for SKA matches or any of the Moscow teams?? Thinking of going over to one in 2013
Check it out from SKA's website, which is in english too. Okay, I give you a link: http://www.ska.ru/en/tickets/index.html

*KHL games are category B so cheapiest tickets are 250 = 6,1€.

You also need this to find out how much they cost in euros: http://valuutat.fi/

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Look, I have experience with KHL clubs in my country, you dont. So, I have more info than you. Slovan has sponsors which had in slovak league but sponsors give now more than before (KHL is bigger market). Plus Slovan has new sponsors which are interested in russian market. I see no reason why this should not work in Finland or elsewhere. Btw Finland has bigger companies than Slovakia, am I right?
You're entirely right. Jussi is just being short sighted.

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Look, I have experience with KHL clubs in my country, you dont. So, I have more info than you. Slovan has sponsors which had in slovak league but sponsors give now more than before (KHL is bigger market). Plus Slovan has new sponsors which are interested in russian market. I see no reason why this should not work in Finland or elsewhere. Btw Finland has bigger companies than Slovakia, am I right?
Finnish companies don't have much interest in Russia due and they're not doing so well either. Don't even start about Nokia... Different country, different economics. Finnish clubs have already said their sponsors aren't much interested in KHL, the sponsorship market is already at it's peak with a lot companies cutting down on sponsoring due to the economic situation.

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