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06-11-2012, 10:17 AM
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I think people need to understand what "overrated" means. JVR is not overrated because we all agree he is struggling and not living up to his 2nd overall status. He is still young though and has potential. Gardiner on the other hand is basically given god-like status amongst leaf fans and has only one played one season. He played pretty well but his sophomore year will tell much more.

As for the above trade, yeah Philly probably has to add if it were to happen right now.
Maybe, but JVR is far far away nowdays from 2nd overall pick value..

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06-11-2012, 10:18 AM
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Well, he will like Boston a lot better. Welcome JVR.
Well, he will like Philly a lot better. Welcome Lucic.

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06-11-2012, 10:21 AM
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I'm kinda surprised that Holmgren is looking to trade away JVR. Not sure who they'd replace him with but it's an interesting rumor.

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06-11-2012, 10:24 AM
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So the new kiss of death in Philly is, once you sign a overpriced long term contract you should expect to be traded the next year. So who is he going to find to take Bryzgalov's contract?

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06-11-2012, 10:25 AM
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I think people need to understand what "overrated" means. JVR is not overrated because we all agree he is struggling and not living up to his 2nd overall status. He is still young though and has potential. Gardiner on the other hand is basically given god-like status amongst leaf fans and has only one played one season. He played pretty well but his sophomore year will tell much more.
True words. I can still remember when Leafs Fans talking about Schenn the way they talk about Gardiner now. Fast foward 1 year he is in every trade proposal

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06-11-2012, 10:27 AM
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TOR gets:
B Schenn
JVR


PHI gets:
Franson
Kadri
5th overall
You forgot to mention all the LOLs the Flyers get in that deal, as it's all they'd get with that offer.

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Maybe, but JVR is far far away nowdays from 2nd overall pick value..
Fortunately, no one's claiming he is right now. He has to get healthy.

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06-11-2012, 10:28 AM
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this makes no sense on so many levels

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06-11-2012, 10:30 AM
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TOR gets:
B Schenn
JVR


PHI gets:
Franson
Kadri
5th overall
I would take out Kadri and see if PHI bites on d'Amigo instead, or Brad Ross. Those two are more the prototypical Philly-type players.

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06-11-2012, 10:31 AM
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TOR gets:
B Schenn
JVR


PHI gets:
Franson
Kadri
5th overall
IMO this doesn't cut it. PHI would want Gardiner, the 5th overall, Kadri + 2nd round pick 2012 or 2013.

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Nobody is mad at JVR because he just signed an extension to stay in Philly long term and again Homer decides to reward this loyalty by trading him.
Loyalty? JvR took that deal because he liked the financial terms, he's not playing for charity.

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06-11-2012, 10:33 AM
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IMO this doesn't cut it. PHI would want Gardiner, the 5th overall, Kadri + 2nd round pick 2012 or 2013.
I'd be fine with Gardiner and the 5th overall


Keep Kadri.. He is a bust

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06-11-2012, 10:34 AM
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So the new kiss of death in Philly is, once you sign a overpriced long term contract you should expect to be traded the next year. So who is he going to find to take Bryzgalov's contract?
Or, if you don't perform, you get traded

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06-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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Many have asked: I'm told reports of a Philly - #CBJ trade being held up by Van Riemsdyk surgery are totally bogus.

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06-11-2012, 10:37 AM
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Don't want JVR on the Flyers.

Don't want Nash on the Flyers.

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06-11-2012, 10:49 AM
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I think people need to understand what "overrated" means. JVR is not overrated because we all agree he is struggling and not living up to his 2nd overall status. He is still young though and has potential. Gardiner on the other hand is basically given god-like status amongst leaf fans and has only one played one season. He played pretty well but his sophomore year will tell much more.

As for the above trade, yeah Philly probably has to add if it were to happen right now.
I love how that argument is allowed to work for all non-leafs, but as soon as Kadri or L Schenn get brought up it's "no, they suck and are busts"

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06-11-2012, 10:54 AM
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I love how that argument is allowed to work for all non-leafs, but as soon as Kadri or L Schenn get brought up it's "no, they suck and are busts"
Actually, I think Wilson was the worst thing possible for young guys like Kadri and Schenn. They both have potential and imo things can only improve for both with him gone. Also, who calls Kadri a "bust" when he's barely even had the opportunity to play?

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06-11-2012, 11:02 AM
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What's B. Schenn's ceiling out of curiosity? Kesler?

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Actually, I think Wilson was the worst thing possible for young guys like Kadri and Schenn. They both have potential and imo things can only improve for both with him gone. Also, who calls Kadri a "bust" when he's barely even had the opportunity to play?
People do all the time, for example a few posts up, but that guy I don't think is being serious and just trying to strike a nerve But really, any trade proposal involving Kadri will have quite a few people saying he is a bust and they don't want him.

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06-11-2012, 11:04 AM
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What's B. Schenn's ceiling out of curiosity? Kesler?
Mike Richards.

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06-11-2012, 11:07 AM
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Holmgren is a real ******* eh? Haha.. I understand it's a business, but completely ignoring good business etiquette isn't typically a good business practice. If I were a player re-signing in Philly, I'd be pretty damn cautious signing longterm. Even if you get a NMC, you could be traded before it kicks in.

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06-11-2012, 11:09 AM
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Trade for Rick Nash

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Holmgren is a real ******* eh? Haha.. I understand it's a business, but completely ignoring good business etiquette isn't typically a good business practice. If I were a player re-signing in Philly, I'd be pretty damn cautious signing longterm. Even if you get a NMC, you could be traded before it kicks in.
Money talks.

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06-11-2012, 11:12 AM
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Don't want JVR on the Flyers.

Don't want Nash on the Flyers.
You don't want Nash?
Are you insane?

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06-11-2012, 11:12 AM
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No interest in JvR - at best, another 3rd line player - right now he's tracking to be the biggest bust since Daigle. As for Schenn, #5 and and a lesser prospect is fair value. He might evolve into a top line centre but the jury's out on that still and silimarto the comments on Gardiner, let's see what his sophmore season produces first of all.

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i dont get the hard on people have for JVR, maybe its just because of his draft slot. 5th overall + would be an overpayment, he has achieved squat to warrant such a return

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