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06-11-2012, 11:17 AM
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I'm kinda surprised that Holmgren is looking to trade away JVR. Not sure who they'd replace him with but it's an interesting rumor.
I'm not too surprised. Jvr is very inconsistent but has alot of potential which other teams see. If Holmgren has the right offer on the table, I think he'll do it.

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06-11-2012, 11:19 AM
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imo this doesn't cut it. Phi would want gardiner, the 5th overall, kadri + 2nd round pick 2012 or 2013.

wtf...???

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06-11-2012, 11:20 AM
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i dont get the hard on people have for JVR, maybe its just because of his draft slot. 5th overall + would be an overpayment, he has achieved squat to warrant such a return
One can say the same thing about the 5th overall pick.

I think it's pretty fair value but I doubt the Leafs move the pick for "fair value". It'll be moved for an overpayment.

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06-11-2012, 11:21 AM
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No interest in JvR - at best, another 3rd line player - right now he's tracking to be the biggest bust since Daigle. As for Schenn, #5 and and a lesser prospect is fair value. He might evolve into a top line centre but the jury's out on that still and silimarto the comments on Gardiner, let's see what his sophmore season produces first of all.
lol @ this post.

At best, JvR was the Flyers best forward during the 2010-2011 playoffs. He scored 21 goals in his 2nd season and finished it off with an absolutely dominant playoff run.

He was on a 25 G/30 A pace up until December when he missed time with injuries. He battled injuries throughout the year, but this is the first time in his professional career that he has missed significant time because of injuries.

at the notion that he's the biggest bust since Daigle.

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i dont get the hard on people have for JVR, maybe its just because of his draft slot. 5th overall + would be an overpayment, he has achieved squat to warrant such a return
Because he's immensely talented for a player his size. Some players take longer to put it all together.

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06-11-2012, 11:21 AM
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You don't want Nash?
Are you insane?
7 million contract for a 30 goal scorer. Yes i'm sure we don't want him.

If this organisation trades JVR, i will be more upset than when we traded Richards and Carter.

We don't need Nash, we don't want him. Trading JVR will be the biggest mistake this club ever makes.

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06-11-2012, 11:22 AM
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7 million contract for a 30 goal scorer. Yes i'm sure we don't want him.

If this organisation trades JVR, i will be more upset than when we traded Richards and Carter.

We don't need Nash, we don't want him. Trading JVR will be the biggest mistake this club ever makes.
Nearly $8m, technically.

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06-11-2012, 11:22 AM
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Schenn?

So overrated. Why would the Flyers want a bottom pairing, slow dman with no offense?

Kadri? LOL. My god, what a bust.

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06-11-2012, 11:23 AM
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I'm curious what the pricetag would be for the Leafs if they traded for JVR (Burke is a fan of him I believe) and B. Schenn (add the 2nd Schenn to the Roster)?

I'd imagine the 5th overall pick...and then?


more then a 5th to get those two

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06-11-2012, 11:27 AM
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"At best, JvR was the Flyers best forward during the 2010-2011 playoffs. He scored 21 goals in his 2nd season and finished it off with an absolutely dominant playoff run."


lol at this post. 1 solid playoff run and the guy's the next John Druce or Bryce Salvadore. Until JvR sustains his performance over a full season, he's tracking to be a full blown bust.


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06-11-2012, 11:29 AM
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Schenn?

So overrated. Why would the Flyers want a bottom pairing, slow dman with no offense?

Kadri? LOL. My god, what a bust.

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if kadri and luke schenn are overrated/busts then the same argument could be made about JVR he has performed no where close to his draft slot and he's already in his 3rd of pro and he's already damaged goods

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06-11-2012, 11:31 AM
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more then a 5th to get those two
what's Philly's angle on this?
i mean what are they trying to do?
get younger still? shed salary?
i just dont see the incentive to move two good young players like that who are on the cusp of breaking out (it would seem)
if they did want to move them, wouldnt they want established guys, like a top-4 D or something?
I dont even know what Philly's needs are ..can someone enlighten?
Leafs' needs are more transparent -- more strength at every position, yes?

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06-11-2012, 11:32 AM
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Or every fan based posts over-valuing their repsective assets. Toronto has alot of passionate fans but in relevant terms, the posts for Leafs fans are less biased than most.
You can't even make comments like this without favouring the leafs lol.

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Schenn?

So overrated. Why would the Flyers want a bottom pairing, slow dman with no offense?

Kadri? LOL. My god, what a bust.

Pass.
So wrong in so many ways...

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06-11-2012, 11:34 AM
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Nearly $8m, technically.
Here we go again...

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06-11-2012, 11:36 AM
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Calling Nash a 30 goal guy is not 100% accurate.

He is and does alot more than that. He is a Franchise player and the only player on the flyers in his league is giroux. Nash has also never had the luxury of playing in a top 6 like giroux did last year.

If giroux was the "man" in CBJ would you call him "just a 60 point guy"

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06-11-2012, 11:37 AM
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what's Philly's angle on this?
i mean what are they trying to do?
get younger still? shed salary?
i just dont see the incentive to move two good young players like that who are on the cusp of breaking out (it would seem)
if they did want to move them, wouldnt they want established guys, like a top-4 D or something?
I dont even know what Philly's needs are ..can someone enlighten?
Leafs' needs are more transparent -- more strength at every position, yes?
theres a rumor we're trying to move up in the draft...who knows, if grigorenko is available that changes a LOT.

(move him to wing)
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is a very scary long term prospect o_0

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Calling Nash a 30 goal guy is not 100% accurate.

He is and does alot more than that. He is a Franchise player and the only player on the flyers in his league is giroux. Nash has also never had the luxury of playing in a top 6 like giroux did last year.

If giroux was the "man" in CBJ would you call him "just a 60 point guy"
Explain to me why the flyers would need to add 30 more goals to the roster. Especially when JVR can bag 20. We have no need for Nash whatsoever.

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06-11-2012, 11:38 AM
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Schenn?

So overrated. Why would the Flyers want a bottom pairing, slow dman with no offense?

Kadri? LOL. My god, what a bust.

Pass.
This part of your post is wrong, rest is your opinion so I won't bother with. But Schenn's offensive game is vastly underrated. He was tied for 75th in the NHL among defensemen in points this past year. That would on average put him as the 3rd best offensive defenseman on a team.

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pls god no!!! jvr has bust written all over him

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06-11-2012, 11:42 AM
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Explain to me why the flyers would need to add 30 more goals to the roster. Especially when JVR can bag 20. We have no need for Nash whatsoever.
Well, it obviously depends on the cost, but I wouldn't assume that Hartnell is going to match last year's production. Ditto for Simmonds (probably more a 20 goal scorer than 28), and Read.

If it is JVR + Bob + a pick, I think the Flyers will do it. I don't know if they should. But they well. The organization loves big moves and big names.

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If we trade JVR, thats the third long term contract we will have traded in two years. I really hope that homer isn't that stupid.

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I think Nash would fit the Flyers team very well and really lift up his career again. Yes that contract is terrible but he's big bodied goalscorer that could play with Giroux. Anything less than 40 goals would be huge disappointment.

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Explain to me why the flyers would need to add 30 more goals to the roster. Especially when JVR can bag 20. We have no need for Nash whatsoever.
Your making too much sense. People are blinded by big names instead of seeing how he fits it relation to his cap hit and what the holes are of the team he's being traded to. In addition, shipping out a third player who recently signed a long term deal is probably not the smartest idea.

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You don't want Nash?
Are you insane?
7.8 is a lot of cash for a unachieving forward. Why would the Flyers trade assets for Nash when they can go after Parise if they really want to add another top end forward.
Personally I am not seeing this rumor at all. Now there may be some "water" to JVR headed to CBJ. I just think its for something else, like moving up in the draft. If JVR is dealt I think its for defense IMO.

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Schenn won't be involved. Couts won't be involved. I'm almost positive those two are safe along with Giroux.

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