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Some of Columbus's upper tier d-men to the Flyers

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06-14-2012, 07:23 AM
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JJ for voracek maybe.. But idk why we'd move couturier if we don't get the 2nd overall.
JJ>Couturier
2012 1st<Voracek

Stop wanting every good defenseman and only giving up s*** like Voracek and JVR. Think Schenn and Couturier if you want a good young defenseman.

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06-14-2012, 07:29 AM
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Take Methot.
Please.


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06-14-2012, 09:52 AM
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Tyutin and Nikitin not... probably Methot will be aivalable. Or Wiz it is possible too.

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Just curious. What makes you think columbus can afford to give up any of their best dmen?
You could make the case that Columbus can't afford to move D, forwards, whatever. You could also easily say that Columbus can't afford to do nothing. The fact is they can't get any worse. The only thing I wouldn't do if I ran the Blue Jackets is trade picks or prospects.

That said what the blue jackets can or can't afford to do is irrelevant - it's more like what are they stupid enough to do.

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06-14-2012, 11:01 AM
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Columbus doesn't have enough good defenseman to be dealing them out. JJ, Nikitin, and Tyutin would be off limits. I think CBJ should be looking to deal Methot and Wiz but I doubt anybody wants them with those contracts.

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06-14-2012, 11:08 AM
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Not quite what the OP is suggesting--but I posted this on the respective teams' boards a few weeks ago:

Bobrovsky

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Savard / Goloubef
CBJ 2012 3rd (62nd overall)

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06-14-2012, 01:05 PM
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? What would the price be for Moore? You always seem to have good insight.

I'd assume we'd want a forward in the deal.
Pretty much. The problem is that the forward in question would have to be similarly young with similar upside. And locating someone like that on the Flyers at present is a bit... awkward. Off the top of my head the only one I can think of is Schenn.

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I think that Johnson, Moore, Tyutin and Nikitin would be off-limits (or should be anyways). That leaves Wizniewski (who I think Columbus is stuck with) and Marc Methot (who is as good as gone, imo) as available pieces. It's far from an all-star lineup, but it's a group that can get the job done, and more importantly in this case, are worth more to the BJ's then anyone else. I'm interested to see if they play JMFJ and Wiz together or seperate.

Jack Johnson - xxxxxxxxxx
Nikita Nikitin - Fedor Tyutin
John Moore - James Wizniewski

I think that's what I would do.
Wisniewski found chemistry with JMFJ early last season, which surprised us all. They were calling themselves "Controlled Chaos" before too long.

Dunno if that will last, but it was fun to watch.

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Lol 4 'off limit' players on a team that finished last. Gretzky wasn't off limits, so no one on your team is "untradeable"
Thanks for sharing.

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I think JJ would be tough to move for political reasons, but the rest are just prospects and CBJ are officially in rebuild.



OMFG. I can't believe I just read that.

Hon, of the five top-four defensemen we have, JMFJ is the youngest. He's 25. Nikitin turns 26 in two days, Methot already is 26 (turns 27 soon), and Wisniewski and Tyutin are both 28.

That's got to be the biggest "no ****ing clue what you're talking about" blunder I have ever seen here. Seriously.

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Many people apparently don't realize that CBJ defensemen missed significant portions of last season which was a huge factor in the disappointing results.

Wisniewski, Tyutin, and Methot all missed good amounts of the season due to injury (and one suspension). Jack Johnson came in near the end of the season. Provided those guys remain healthy, it will look like an almost completely different blueline this year vs. last.

Finally, one has to factor in the difference in play shown between Sanford and Mason. In front of Sanford, the Jackets played very well. In front of Mason, it was like they weren't even there. Given the fact that Sanford is hardly an NHL caliber goalie, I think the acquisition of one or two actual NHL goalies this offseason will be huge.

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Not quite what the OP is suggesting--but I posted this on the respective teams' boards a few weeks ago:

Bobrovsky

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Savard / Goloubef
CBJ 2012 3rd (62nd overall)
Goloubef would be acceptable. Savard wouldn't. We think we've got something very, very special with him, and aren't about to give him up easily.

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You could make the case that Columbus can't afford to move D, forwards, whatever. You could also easily say that Columbus can't afford to do nothing. The fact is they can't get any worse. The only thing I wouldn't do if I ran the Blue Jackets is trade picks or prospects.

That said what the blue jackets can or can't afford to do is irrelevant - it's more like what are they stupid enough to do.
This would be an interesting post if I had any idea what the hell you were talking about.

Your point about walking a fine line between standing pat and taking a calculated risk is a good one, and of course, the CBJ face this. I would suggest that the specifics of this thread indicate an area where there isn't a good risk to be taken for Howson.

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You could make the case that Columbus can't afford to move D, forwards, whatever. You could also easily say that Columbus can't afford to do nothing. The fact is they can't get any worse. The only thing I wouldn't do if I ran the Blue Jackets is trade picks or prospects.

That said what the blue jackets can or can't afford to do is irrelevant - it's more like what are they stupid enough to do.
We can't get any worse! We can only move up!

...Or stay the same

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Jack Johnson and LA King's first rounder for Sean Couturier and Jakub Voracek
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nope
First, I'm pretty sure you missed the joke--perhaps if the poster had added a 3rd after Voracek.

Second, I find it difficult to believe you would pass on that deal (assuming you are a CBJ fan), if offered, which it never would be.


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First, I'm pretty sure you missed the joke--perhaps if the poster had added a 3rd after Voracek.

Second, I find it difficult to believe you would pass on that deal, if offered, which it never would be.
I would definitely pass on it. I have a signed Voracek jersey so obviously I'm a fan of his... From what I saw of Couterier I like him a lot too.

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JJ>Couturier

Stop it.

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Stop it.
Agreed, though maybe not for the same reasons. To the Jackets, Johnson>Couturier. To the Flyers, Couturier>Johnson. So no reason at all to involve these two in a trade.

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Why? Philadelphia has a very deep defence when they're healthy. They need a no1 since Pronger probably won't play much more but Cbj doesn't have that. Grossman/Meszaros and co are on par with Nikitin or Tyutin.

And Laviollete's system has more to do with it than anything, the guy's just not the best of coaches when it comes to playing a tight defence.

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