on message boards it makes sense to refute what you don't agree with
its what makes it a discussion
Well at least you know that much. How can you agree/disagree with something that doesn't make sense to you? You clearly don't know the full intent of the message.
Back on topic:
I'm looking forward to seeing what Gelinas can do here. Hopefully his years in Nashville have taught him more about the management aspect of the game.
Wow to be honest I didn't think our powerplay was even in the top 15.
When we needed it to produce the most if failed miserably.
From what I can remember they would either score in bunches (2+ PPG a game) or score when we were ahead by a wide margin in the game.
Very few times I can recall where we scored on the PP to get back into a game, or to take a lead. I am not sure why that was, or if it was actually that way but it certainly felt like that to me.
Wow to be honest I didn't think our powerplay was even in the top 15.
Really didn't seem that way hey?
Every time that statistic came up, I was seriously like... actually?
Their PK was also dynamite this year, our 5-5 was however, amongst the worst
in the league.
The stat that hurts me the most when looking over the Flames statistically; was that out FO% was not only the worst, but was the worst by almost a full %, outside the #1-#2, most teams are separated by .1-.3% between who they are better than and worse than... kind of a telling stat of of how pitiful our faceoffs were this year.
When we needed it to produce the most if failed miserably.
From what I can remember they would either score in bunches (2+ PPG a game) or score when we were ahead by a wide margin in the game.
Very few times I can recall where we scored on the PP to get back into a game, or to take a lead. I am not sure why that was, or if it was actually that way but it certainly felt like that to me.
Really didn't seem that way hey?
Every time that statistic came up, I was seriously like... actually?
Their PK was also dynamite this year, our 5-5 was however, amongst the worst
in the league.
The stat that hurts me the most when looking over the Flames statistically; was that out FO% was not only the worst, but was the worst by almost a full %, outside the #1-#2, most teams are separated by .1-.3% between who they are better than and worse than... kind of a telling stat of of how pitiful our faceoffs were this year.
IMO that stat and our weak blue line are the MOST important issues that need to be addressed this offseason.
I would love a #1 center, but do not think it is an attainable goal. Bouwmeester for Stastny is about the only idea I can think of.
Pffftttt.... You just don't like facts. Especially when they disagree with your skewed opinions. Any of dozens of posters on this board can tell you Feaster said that in an interview with Steinberg on 960. I use advanced stats that you "think" are BS, even though the Flames use the exact same stats to evaluate players and have hired people just to compile them.
I agree with you that Glencross left money on the table and deserved the NTC. He left significant money on the table. IMO in the neighborhood of 4-6 million dollars. I completely disagree that Tanguay left money on the table. I LIKE Tanguay and think he's an excellent fit here. That said, I think it's total BS that he left money on the table. There is no way of proving that, so it's just an opinion. I think Tanguay could have gotten 4-4.5 million on a short term deal, but no way someone gives him that for a 5 year term like we did. Tanguay has played horribly other than with the Flames over the past seven years. I strongly doubt he left any money on the table unless he took less term.
It's also my opinion that Babchuk had no better offers. I think it's why he waited until so late to sign the Flames offer. Again, no proof. But I think there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to support that. Babchuk is a bottom pairing defenseman who needs to be sheltered. If we're handing out NTC's to players like him we'll continue to be hamstrung financially and in player movement.
But by all means, keep the fanboy glasses on and enjoy the ride. The rest of us will evaluate moves by merit. Feaster has done some good things, but he's a spin master and uses the media. If you think otherwise you haven't followed his career.
You claim you're full of facts and then you say **** like this. I don't need advanced stats to tell me that there's absolutely no proof that Feaster is (a) a spin master and (b) thinking otherwise means one hasn't followed his career. That's an opinion, as is most posts around here.
Without a direct quote, proper citation, and valid source that Feaster said these things on the Fan, you have about as much fact and merit in your posts as the Eklund rumour generator has in hockey news.
So do your research, otherwise don't attack Medium's credibility....
You'll learn. With medium all of your opinions are nonsense and his are pure gold. Even if you back yours up, while he just attacks your credibility without ever giving something to back up his.
This from the guy that says Iginla is a defensive liability and all facts otherwise are just us being blind fans
When we needed it to produce the most if failed miserably.
From what I can remember they would either score in bunches (2+ PPG a game) or score when we were ahead by a wide margin in the game.
Very few times I can recall where we scored on the PP to get back into a game, or to take a lead. I am not sure why that was, or if it was actually that way but it certainly felt like that to me.
We scored 2 ppg 7 times never 3 or more. That accounts for 30% of our pp goals.
When we were battling for a playoff spot From Feb 6th to March 24th
we scored a pp goal or more 12 times in 25 games so about 50% of the time that isn't that bad.
I think we all have our concerns with this hiring, but I'm going to wait and give him a shot before I start saying anything. After hearing some the interviews, I'm actually excited to see how this turns out.
I'm not too sure what's wrong with close connections giving recommendations? It's not like Gelinas hasn't done anything since he retired.
Exactly, its not like he just got off the couch and called his buddy Conny and said "hey buddy, get me a job." You'd have to think Hartley and Feaster had interviews with Gelly as well, and were impressed enough to hire him. I really like this move.
Exactly, its not like he just got off the couch and called his buddy Conny and said "hey buddy, get me a job." You'd have to think Hartley and Feaster had interviews with Gelly as well, and were impressed enough to hire him. I really like this move.
sounds like all Feaster and Conroy did was make teh recommendation to Hartley.
From Feasters interview on Flames.com it sounds like this was the process:
Hartley gave Feaster a list of 10-12 qualities he wanted in an assistant and asked for recommendations
Feaster gave Conroy a copy of the list
Conroy went to Feaster saying Gelinas had everything but experience
Feaster recommended him to Hartley
Hartley said yes
Feaster called Poile and asked for permission
Poile said yes
Feaster gave Hartley the number to Gelinas' cell
Hartley called Gelinas immediately
Hartley called Feaster back within 20 minutes and said they have a meeting at 11
Hartley and Gelinas met for 90 minutes
When exiting the meeting hartley said "thats my coach"
Feaster asked if he wanted to interview more coaches, Hartley stated no.
Feaster called Poile and asked if he could offer Gelinas a contract, Poile again said yes
You claim you're full of facts and then you say **** like this. I don't need advanced stats to tell me that there's absolutely no proof that Feaster is (a) a spin master and (b) thinking otherwise means one hasn't followed his career. That's an opinion, as is most posts around here.
Without a direct quote, proper citation, and valid source that Feaster said these things on the Fan, you have about as much fact and merit in your posts as the Eklund rumour generator has in hockey news.
So do your research, otherwise don't attack Medium's credibility....
Like I said, it's common knowledge that Feaster talked about intellectual honesty multiple times in multiple interviews. It's also common knowledge he talked about NTC's not being handed out like candy and common knowledge that the Flames do use advanced stats systems like PUCKS and DL to evaluate players. All of course are things Medium has accused me of "lying" about. I never "attacked his credibility." I just defended mine. 960 only archives to a certain point, so I can't prove it from those interviews but here are some links.
There are too many advanced stats to name. He played against bottom half competition, was a team worst in corsi per 60, had a brutal scoring chance ratio, was a minus player and several others. Brent had Glencross and Jokinen doing the heavy lifting. Guys like Stajan, Moss, Stempniak, Backlund and Jones were secondary checkers. If Iginla wasn't a liability he would have looked to match up top players with top players.
There are too many advanced stats to name. He played against bottom half competition, was a team worst in corsi per 60, had a brutal scoring chance ratio, was a minus player and several others. Brent had Glencross and Jokinen doing the heavy lifting. Guys like Stajan, Moss, Stempniak, Backlund and Jones were secondary checkers. If Iginla wasn't a liability he would have looked to match up top players with top players.
From the article;
Quote:
Iginla was forced to see some of the tougher ice time thanks to the team's make-up and injury problems and frankly he got his head beat in most nights
So which is it?
I would say the "top line" as a whole struggled defensively as they were not being played in a way that benefited them to the fullest (IMO).
I dont think he is the worst defensive forward on this team by any stretch, he just looked unmotivated in the defensive end for a number of reasons.
I would say the "top line" as a whole struggled defensively as they were not being played in a way that benefited them to the fullest (IMO).
I dont think he is the worst defensive forward on this team by any stretch, he just looked unmotivated in the defensive end for a number of reasons.
Good question, considering the article contradicts the position she has taken in the past.
It's also entirely possible that Iginla is told by the coaching staff to hang around the blue line to wait for an outlet pass. I'm just not sure where in the statistics that shows up.
Good question, considering the article contradicts the position she has taken in the past.
It's also entirely possible that Iginla is told by the coaching staff to hang around the blue line to wait for an outlet pass. I'm just not sure where in the statistics that shows up.
very good point, you can pretty much bet Iginla has been encouraged to cheat to create some offensive opportunities
