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06-14-2012, 12:23 PM
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I can't believe people are equating a head coach - who has no power to negotiate - stating a 'possible' interest in players with an owner and a GM (who obviously can negotiate) stating a definitive interest and using a go between to cryptically send a not so subtle message through the media.

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06-14-2012, 12:25 PM
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I can't believe people are equating a head coach - who has no power to negotiate - stating a 'possible' interest in players with an owner and a GM (who obviously can negotiate) stating a definitive interest and using a go between to cryptically send a not so subtle message through the media.
do you 100% know for a fact that the Wild GM said those things?

no, you don't.

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06-14-2012, 12:26 PM
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do you 100% know for a fact that the Wild GM said those things?

no, you don't.
It wouldn't be a criminal proceeding, you don't need to prove anything beyond reasonable doubt.

Circumstantial evidence would do it...

EDIT: http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/05/sp...ring-case.html

Stevens case talked about there. A "4 year investigation" where the NHL forced the Blues to turn over documents/finances related to Stevens offer sheet. One internal email mentioning Parise would do it..

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06-14-2012, 12:28 PM
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again, you guys are looking WAY too much into this thing.

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06-14-2012, 12:29 PM
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I want Parise for a cap hit of 6 - 7 mil on a 5 -6 year deal.

I do not mind a higher cap hit for similar years, and I do not mind a longer contract for a smaller cap hit. I pretty much want ne or the other.

In order to make 100m and meet my criteria, he'd have to sign a 15 year deal for 6.66 mil, or a 10 year deal for 10mil.

First of all, I don't see how any 27 year old player can be a 100 million dollar player under the new contract rules, and secondly if the Wild want to do it, well I won't be that upset over losing Parise. I want the guy back more than anyone, but 100 mil isn't worth it.

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06-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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By that obtuse standard, we don't know that Kovy wouldn't have played out his 17 year deal either, didn't stop the NHL for dinging us on it.

I mean really, what's the motivation for Nanne to lie about it and put his name to a fabrication publicly?


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06-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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again, you guys are looking WAY too much into this thing.
Read that article above.

Nothing was said in a newspaper, nothing was leaked to the media. There were just suspicions.

Lou asked for an investigation and the NHL found the incriminating evidence.. you don't need the evidence to start the process.

Don't think it will surmise to anything but wouldn't be surprised at all if it did.

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06-14-2012, 12:31 PM
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I would hope something like 56 mill for 8 years, but I bet we would need to spend more than that.

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06-14-2012, 12:36 PM
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If he signs, you better post your signature celebratory .gif
If he signs, we will have the mother of all gif parties on here.

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06-14-2012, 12:38 PM
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again, you guys are looking WAY too much into this thing.
Yeah, I think people need to look up what tampering is.

Everyone knows who the favorites are in pursuing Parise. NJ, Minnesota, Detroit, LA, and NYR before yesterday.

Funniest thing in all of this is the Ranger fans immediate reaction. "We didn't want his ass anyway."

******** Nation at its finest.

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My guess is 7 years 53M

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06-14-2012, 12:41 PM
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I mean really, what's the motivation for Nanne to lie about it and put his name to a fabrication publicly?
1. Maybe they want to pursue Zajac next year and want to press us to the cap as early as possible.

2. More likely, he's not lying. I'm just not worried about him playing for the Wild. They stink. Parise just got a taste of winning, and like a drug, he's going to keep chasing it. Minnesota isn't where his chasing should begin, even if the Wild fan say how Parise makes them an instant-contender.

If Detroit said they wouldn't be outbid, I'd be concerned.

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06-14-2012, 12:45 PM
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meh, Detroit isn't in some great position either

they have a crap defense and some aging stars. sure they might sign Suter too and THEN I might get worried but I think that is highly unlikely

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06-14-2012, 12:48 PM
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1. Maybe they want to pursue Zajac next year and want to press us to the cap as early as possible.

2. More likely, he's not lying. I'm just not worried about him playing for the Wild. They stink. Parise just got a taste of winning, and like a drug, he's going to keep chasing it. Minnesota isn't where his chasing should begin, even if the Wild fan say how Parise makes them an instant-contender.

If Detroit said they wouldn't be outbid, I'd be concerned.
lol, you don't feign interest in Zach just so that the Wild can be among 20 other teams that offer Zajac big money.

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06-14-2012, 12:53 PM
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lol, you don't feign interest in Zach just so that the Wild can be among 20 other teams that offer Zajac big money.
I meant that the Wild would do something similar to the Sharks a few years ago.

The Wild drive up the price of Parise which makes Zajac harder to re-sign for NJ.

The Sharks did this with the Hawks. They gave Hjalmarsson an offer sheet they knew Chicago would match, but in matching it, they had no cap space to sign Niemi, who the Sharks really wanted.

It's a little different with us though, since we have about 50 billion in cap space.

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06-14-2012, 12:55 PM
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random note, where'd the minnesota star-tribune get these numbers?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/free_...innesota_wild/

i tried to look up the article online through googling the star-tribune but i couldn't find the figures. not that i looked that hard though

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I meant that the Wild would do something similar to the Sharks a few years ago.

The Wild drive up the price of Parise which makes Zajac harder to re-sign for NJ.

The Sharks did this with the Hawks. They gave Hjalmarsson an offer sheet they knew Chicago would match, but in matching it, they had no cap space to sign Niemi, who the Sharks really wanted.

It's a little different with us though, since we have about 50 billion in cap space.
That happened in the same offseason though, it's pretty shortsighted to bet on something that may or may not happen next offseason. Especially when there's no reason other than a blank check Zajac would ever go there, whereas the market for Niemi after all the FA activity was nil.

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06-14-2012, 01:01 PM
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random note, where'd the minnesota star-tribune get these numbers?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/free_...innesota_wild/
That's even more shady.

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Parise made $6 million in 2011-12, but according to an article in the Minnesota Star-Tribune on Thursday, the Wild is “expected to offer Parise as much as $8.9 million annually.”
And here's the original version of the quote:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/158983945.html

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Parise made $6 million this past season, but the Wild, the lowest-scoring team in the NHL last season and desperate for a star, is expected to offer Parise as much as $8-9 million annually.
That's slightly different, the number isn't as precise.

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06-14-2012, 01:02 PM
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That's even more shady.



And here's the original version of the quote:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/158983945.html



That's slightly different, the number isn't as precise.
i sense they be covering up their butts

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random note, where'd the minnesota star-tribune get these numbers?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/free_...innesota_wild/

i tried to look up the article online through googling the star-tribune but i couldn't find the figures. not that i looked that hard though
And the plot thickens. Another article with numbers, this time no identified source though apart from the original article.

btw 8.9 over 12 years would be 106.8 million lol.

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How long before we see the number of years and a NMC in print?

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Those numbers are ridiculous. It seems like their fanbase has no problem with it. They come off as very desperate to get a Minnesota born player on their team, meanwhile the Wild traded a guy like Nick Leddy away.

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What a sideshow of an organization. This is borderline ridiculous right now.

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who cares if its tampering or not? he'll either sign here for the right price (hopefully) or he can gtfo.

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What a sideshow of an organization. This is borderline ridiculous right now.
It really is a sideshow. Hopefully Zids and Sykora told Parise just that.

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