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06-14-2012, 02:53 PM
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Sens scout meeting

Found this pretty interesting. Any other teams have videos like this?

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videoc...1304&id=181496

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I don't remember if it was draft, or deadline, but the Leafs did something like this that was interesting, but lead to Burke getting fined for tampering.

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That was great, love watching these type of video's. Not enough teams do this though.

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I saw a post draft day vid of the the Ducks discussing their draft board. They had Fowler behind Seguin and Hall and just over Gudbranson saying Fowler's talent, speed, and upside won out over Gudbranson's character. But never before the draft, no.

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Here's this from the leafs. pretty interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDz__LSK5g

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Im so curious as to who they were debating about pretty much the whole video. My guess at first was Brendan Gaunce.

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Gaunce,Faksa or Sissons are the only guys I can think of

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They had to be talking about a defenseman too. He said defensively the best player in this draft. So I'm assuming Murray, Trouba, and Maatta would be in that discussion.

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Im so curious as to who they were debating about pretty much the whole video. My guess at first was Brendan Gaunce.
Almost positive its Zemgus Girgensons at one point

Edit: He's possibly the best defensive forward in the draft as well, so they could be talking about him for that part as well.

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I wonder who they're talking about in the end, the guy that if they can move up for, they should because he's a difference maker and ready to play next year. I assume they don't mean the obvious ones because surely they can't move up that much from 15.

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We on the Sens board think the guy 'taking minute long shifts and was let do what ever he want, which hurt him' to be Grigorenko.

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Love this stuff.

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I wonder who they're talking about in the end, the guy that if they can move up for, they should because he's a difference maker and ready to play next year. I assume they don't mean the obvious ones because surely they can't move up that much from 15.
Grigorenko could slip to a position avaiable to us by moving up a few spots. It's a long shot though.
Same goes for Reinheart.

Other than those 2, and a few others we have no chance at getting without a top 7 pick, I'd say maybe Trouba? Because no one else seems to be NHL ready, and available to move up within reason to get.


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What we've learned from this video

..nothing

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What we've learned from this video

..nothing
These videos never tell you anything. Why would they release a video that gives other teams insight into which players they like or dislike?

They only make and release them to give fans an insight into the process.

Most people love them, I know I sure do as an aspiring NHL scout/GM.

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These videos never tell you anything. Why would they release a video that gives other teams insight into which players they like or dislike?

They only make and release them to give fans an insight into the process.

Most people love them, I know I sure do as an aspiring NHL scout/GM.
Agreed...This is amazing, and it really does make an impact on you if you are hoping to be involved in these operations one day.

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Almost positive its Zemgus Girgensons at one point

Edit: He's possibly the best defensive forward in the draft as well, so they could be talking about him for that part as well.
Another Center?

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These videos never tell you anything. Why would they release a video that gives other teams insight into which players they like or dislike?

They only make and release them to give fans an insight into the process.

Most people love them, I know I sure do as an aspiring NHL scout/GM.
This. I love these videos.

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They had to be talking about a defenseman too. He said defensively the best player in this draft. So I'm assuming Murray, Trouba, and Maatta would be in that discussion.
There's a part where Dorion is debating with Burda (the Sens main European scout) about who's better defensively - my guess is that Burda was pimping a European D (Lindholm) v a North American (Maatta).

People have ragged on Lindholm's defence - but Calle Johansen was on the radio this afternoon and said he was unbelievable positionally, and personally would take him ahead of Forsberg.

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3 minute mark, looked like one of those scouts was not impressed with the player they ranked 15th.


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I don't remember if it was draft, or deadline, but the Leafs did something like this that was interesting, but lead to Burke getting fined for tampering.
You mean the eventual Victor Hedman pick for Burrows and Bieksa rumor that Burke talked about on that Leafs TV draft show? Was he fined for that?


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There's a part where Dorion is debating with Burda (the Sens main European scout) about who's better defensively - my guess is that Burda was pimping a European D (Lindholm) v a North American (Maatta).

People have ragged on Lindholm's defence - but Calle Johansen was on the radio this afternoon and said he was unbelievable positionally, and personally would take him ahead of Forsberg.
In the beginning they said they were only talking about NA players and shortlisting to a few.

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Youd have to think other teams would be able to infer who there talking about ..

So what if sens brass is lying about everything said in this video , to throw teams off.

Murray did it once before with burke RE: kadri

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Youd have to think other teams would be able to infer who there talking about ..

So what if sens brass is lying about everything said in this video , to throw teams off.

Murray did it once before with burke RE: kadri
There isn't really any revealing information about guys though.

So what if another team can figure out that this one guy that one scout on the Sens really likes because he's a "gamebreaker", while another thinks is a terrible player that doesn't play defense is player A.

That doesn't say anything about what the final decision is when B. Murray actually goes to to the podium on draft day.

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Another Center?
We aren't passing on another Anze Kopitar again.

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In the beginning they said they were only talking about NA players and shortlisting to a few.
That's fair, but Burda could easily be drawing a comparison to a European player to put things in context.

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