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06-17-2012, 09:55 AM
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All of HF, possibly the Internet and planet Earth, would collapse if they both signed in NJ.
Can NJ afford them both?? If so, then it isn't farfetched...

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All of HF, possibly the Internet and planet Earth, would collapse if they both signed in NJ.
That's just not true given that one already plays for NJ, if they both landed in Pittsburgh or Vancouver, the world would stop turning and hf would never recover.

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All of HF, possibly the Internet and planet Earth, would collapse if they both signed in NJ.
Thought the Devils were close to bankrupcy

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Does Suter's role matter?
On Minny Suter would be #1 LD
On Detroit, he probably overtakes Kronwall as #1LD
On Chicago, IMO, he's behind Keith and would settle for #2LD
On St. Louis, Pietrangelo would be, or would soon be, #1LD

I think Minny/Detroit are the best options.
If winning the cup is important, Detroit would be the better bet, most likely.

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Does Suter's role matter?
On Minny Suter would be #1 LD
On Detroit, he probably overtakes Kronwall as #1LD
On Chicago, IMO, he's behind Keith and would settle for #2LD
On St. Louis, Pietrangelo would be, or would soon be, #1LD

I think Minny/Detroit are the best options.
If winning the cup is important, Detroit would be the better bet, most likely.
Pietrangelo is a righty.

His best D-partners would be either staying in Nashville with Weber, going to STL with Pietrangelo, or coming to Colorado to be paired with EJ.

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06-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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Does Suter's role matter?
On Minny Suter would be #1 LD
On Detroit, he probably overtakes Kronwall as #1LD
On Chicago, IMO, he's behind Keith and would settle for #2LD
On St. Louis, Pietrangelo would be, or would soon be, #1LD

I think Minny/Detroit are the best options.
If winning the cup is important, Detroit would be the better bet, most likely.
Probably? And he's better than Keith.

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06-17-2012, 03:36 PM
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Probably? And he's better than Keith.
Agreed, he takes over Kronwall or Keith.

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That's assuming Minnesota gets both players, they don't come across standard injuries, and Detroit stands pat with what they have.

The odds of that happening are astronomically small.
Sorry, but if the Wild were to get both players they pass most of the Western Conference pretty quickly. Here would be there top three groups:

Koivu/Parise/Heatley
Granlund/Seto/Bouchard
Brodziak/Latendresse/Coyle or Clutterbuck

Suter/Gilbert
Scandella/Spurgeon
Brodin/Falk/Prosser

I personally think Suter is much more likely to sign here than Parise and even that the odds are against any one team.

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Sorry, but if the Wild were to get both players they pass most of the Western Conference pretty quickly. Here would be there top three groups:

Koivu/Parise/Heatley
Granlund/Seto/Bouchard
Brodziak/Latendresse/Coyle or Clutterbuck

Suter/Gilbert
Scandella/Spurgeon
Brodin/Falk/Prosser

I personally think Suter is much more likely to sign here than Parise and even that the odds are against any one team.
The same can be said about the Wings and Avs for example. If by some miracle both Suter and Parise sign for Colorado you'll see something like this:

Parise - Stastny - Jones
Landeskog - O'Reilly - Downie
McGinn - Duchene - Mueller
McLeod - Malone/McClement/UFA signing - Hejduk
Kobasew/Hishon/Sgarbossa

Suter - EJ
Hejda - O'Byrne
Gaunce - Elliot
Hunwick/Barrie/Wilson

Varlamov
JSG

So three top line centers in Stastny, Duchene and O'Reilly, two franchise wingers in Parise and Landeskog, pretty good depth on the wing with Downie, Jones, McGinn, Mueller (a true wilcard, he's probably the most talented Av when it comes to pure offensive ability), two #1 d-men in Suter and EJ, two decent top 4 guys in Hejda and ROB and a slew of young defensmen with good potential in Elliot, Barrie and Gaunce.

Call me a homer if you want to, but that looks way better than Wild's roster to me.

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Sorry, but if the Wild were to get both players they pass most of the Western Conference pretty quickly. Here would be there top three groups:

Koivu/Parise/Heatley
Granlund/Seto/Bouchard
Brodziak/Latendresse/Coyle or Clutterbuck

Suter/Gilbert
Scandella/Spurgeon
Brodin/Falk/Prosser

I personally think Suter is much more likely to sign here than Parise and even that the odds are against any one team.
Even with Suter that D-core is suspect..

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Call me a homer if you want to, but that looks way better than Wild's roster to me.
Far better on the back end and down the middle.

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I have to wonder if fans of Colorado and Minnesota really believe they have a legitimate shot at either Parise or Suter. I would seriously fall out of my chair if either team signs either player. Detroit? Wouldnt surprise me if they signed both? Chicago? Wouldnt surprise me if they landed Suter. Just cant see him make a less than lateral move to leave Nashville.

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I have to wonder if fans of Colorado and Minnesota really believe they have a legitimate shot at either Parise or Suter. I would seriously fall out of my chair if either team signs either player. Detroit? Wouldnt surprise me if they signed both? Chicago? Wouldnt surprise me if they landed Suter. Just cant see him make a less than lateral move to leave Nashville.
Do we think we have a chance? Yes we do, we have the money, cap space and a young up and coming team that's filled with pretty good players at every position outside of 1st pairing LH d-man (Suter) and we could use another great winger alongside Landeskog.

Do we expect them to sign here? Hell no.


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I have to wonder if fans of Colorado and Minnesota really believe they have a legitimate shot at either Parise or Suter. I would seriously fall out of my chair if either team signs either player. Detroit? Wouldnt surprise me if they signed both? Chicago? Wouldnt surprise me if they landed Suter. Just cant see him make a less than lateral move to leave Nashville.
I'm an Avs fan but I could absolutely see Parise going to Minnesota or Suter coming to Colorado. Both teams provide both players with exactly the type of cities they want to raise their families in and young talented teams that they'd fit perfectly and they could step in and become the leaders of.

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I'm an Avs fan but I could absolutely see Parise going to Minnesota or Suter coming to Colorado. Both teams provide both players with exactly the type of cities they want to raise their families in and young talented teams that they'd fit perfectly and they could step in and become the leaders of.
I think people put a little too much stock into the city talk. You can find a nice area of pretty much any NHL city.

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Can NJ afford them both?? If so, then it isn't farfetched...
Can't see any reason why they couldn't. Especially with Brodeur needing a new deal. He might sign for a steal and take a $5m "advisor" job the next season after.

Many, many FA's in NJ this offseason, but they have ~$28m in cap space to play with and a pretty decent prospect pool. It's well known that Suter and Parise are very close friends.


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Incorrect. And even if they were, Lou Lamoriello has repeatedly said it hasn't affected his hockey dealings (and they've always been a cap ceiling team for the most part.)

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I think people put a little too much stock into the city talk. You can find a nice area of pretty much any NHL city.
No doubt but Denver is one of the outdoorsiest cities in the US. For a guy who likes to farm, it's a beautiful, and really appealing area. If the money's the same, I could absolutely see him choosing to join a young up and coming team that is set up really well for him, with a talent young franchise goalie behind him, a very talented young RH partner for him, a deep collection of good forwards, in that location.

Similarly I could see Parise wanting to raise his family in his home state and so joining the Wild if they've got one of the best offers on the table. They've got good youth, lost a lot of guys to injuries and a defense that could be steady with more experience and reliable goal scoring.

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Canucks don't want Suter they'd rather have RH Weber

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I have to wonder if fans of Colorado and Minnesota really believe they have a legitimate shot at either Parise or Suter. I would seriously fall out of my chair if either team signs either player. Detroit? Wouldnt surprise me if they signed both? Chicago? Wouldnt surprise me if they landed Suter. Just cant see him make a less than lateral move to leave Nashville.
People didn't see Chicago signing Hossa either...

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I have to wonder if fans of Colorado and Minnesota really believe they have a legitimate shot at either Parise or Suter. I would seriously fall out of my chair if either team signs either player. Detroit? Wouldnt surprise me if they signed both? Chicago? Wouldnt surprise me if they landed Suter. Just cant see him make a less than lateral move to leave Nashville.
I have to wonder if Red Wings fan are really this arrogant.

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I like Suter, but I don't see him as better than Keith. I've watched a lot of Ryan Suter over the years. He's nice and steady, but Lord knows he can be beat. And he's not nearly as dynamic as some of the league's elite defensemen.

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Pietrangelo is a righty.

His best D-partners would be either staying in Nashville with Weber, going to STL with Pietrangelo, or coming to Colorado to be paired with EJ.
Huh. When I picture him, I picture him walking the line and ripping a slapper, Lidstrom-like.

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I have to wonder if Red Wings fan are really this arrogant.
"Arogant fan" is an oxymoron.

We're not the ones competing. We have no reason to be arogant.

The ones who try to act that way just look foolish.

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No doubt but Denver is one of the outdoorsiest cities in the US. For a guy who likes to farm, it's a beautiful, and really appealing area. If the money's the same, I could absolutely see him choosing to join a young up and coming team that is set up really well for him, with a talent young franchise goalie behind him, a very talented young RH partner for him, a deep collection of good forwards, in that location.

Similarly I could see Parise wanting to raise his family in his home state and so joining the Wild if they've got one of the best offers on the table. They've got good youth, lost a lot of guys to injuries and a defense that could be steady with more experience and reliable goal scoring.
Love the "outdoorsiest" comment. I'll have to use that word one day... Just out of curiosity. Where in Denver are there farms? For the life of me I cannot remember. I lived there in the early 90s and I would assume you'd have to go up to Ft Collins area.

Back to Suter or Parise... my question was really just trying to gauge. I know Im a fan of a basketball team that always has salary space, great place to live, has had good teams, etc., but even if it's ever been rumored someone will come, I'd have to see it, to believe it. I just see Colorado and Minnesota as more of a lateral move for Suter. Not to say they dont have fine, up and coming teams, just the Detroit's and Chicago's seem to be more attractive to ufas.

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