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06-16-2012, 03:03 PM
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Lucic for Kane straight up
Kane has yet to sign a RFA contract and had a $3MIL cap hit ($900K and bonuses) last year. Lucic has one year left of a $4.25MIL RFA contract.

Oh my, what a quandry but Kane ain't even fully grown yet and already has 3 full solid NHL seasons.

I'd kill to have him in the Black n' Gold.....and I would pull the trigger on this one.

Get him tied up for Lucic money for the next 3 years and make a hardcore effort to retain and satisfy Seguin, Rask and Marchand next year, who I think have a better upside than Looch right now.

If not, how about Krejci and Bartkowski?

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06-16-2012, 03:12 PM
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Which philosophy is that?
Depth over high-end talent.

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Depth over high-end talent.

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06-16-2012, 03:45 PM
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Per Ren Lavoie of RDS

https://twitter.com/#!/RenLavoieRDS




Would you give up Dougie+ in a trade for Evander Kane? If not what would you give up if the Bruins could be sure he would sign here upon being traded?

20 year old 30 goal scorer with a poor team with no real stars around him
No. The B's build from the back out. Z tuteling Dougie. 'Nuff said. nod:

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06-16-2012, 04:09 PM
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Krejci + 1st + pick of any Bruins prospect not named Rask.
Rask is not really a prospect. And add dougie and a few others to that lost and I'll jump aboard.


Kane is a solid player

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06-16-2012, 04:17 PM
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The only way I would even consider trading Hamilton for Evander Kane would be if they were to swap 1st round picks with us, too. Perhaps something like:

To the Jets - Hamilton, Caron, the #24, and perhaps a prospect

To the B's - Evander Kane and #9

The #9 would allow us to pick up a nice replacement for Dougie (perhaps Reinhart, Trouba, Ceci). It might help the sting of losing Dougie a little easier to take anyway. I must admit I have a man crush on Kane though...I think he'd look wonderful in black n gold!

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06-16-2012, 04:21 PM
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Wait... if he's not willing to negotiate a new contract and his contract is up on July 1st... what happens? Does he just go into limbo or something?

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06-16-2012, 04:42 PM
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I don't think Drew Doughty gets him strait up.

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06-16-2012, 04:43 PM
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Wait... if he's not willing to negotiate a new contract and his contract is up on July 1st... what happens? Does he just go into limbo or something?
He moves to Colorado.

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06-16-2012, 04:55 PM
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Krejci or Spooner and 1st.
Huh? I'm not sure I understand you right, but Krejci and Spooner have quite different trade values.

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06-16-2012, 04:58 PM
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Wait... if he's not willing to negotiate a new contract and his contract is up on July 1st... what happens? Does he just go into limbo or something?
July 1 has absolutely no relevance for RFAs... if there's no agreement between player and team, the player is forced to sit at home and watch oprah till he signs.

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06-16-2012, 05:11 PM
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July 1 has absolutely no relevance for RFAs... if there's no agreement between player and team, the player is forced to sit at home and watch oprah till he signs.
Oprah doesn't have a show anymore so they'll have to watch Ellen DeGeneres.....which means they'd usually sign up pretty quickly or have their brains melt from too much exposure of "Ellen's silly mug" looks.

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06-16-2012, 05:18 PM
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Nothing surprises me around here any more.

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06-16-2012, 05:41 PM
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Nothing surprises me around here any more.
I know... but.... I mean the NHL season Doughty started at age 19 he was a Norris finalist and scored 50 pts. To match that feat Dougie would have to do that THIS YEAR.

Show of hands for all those who think Dougie will get serious Norris votes this year?

Hamilton has a very bright future for sure, but if you could get Doughty, Karlson or Pietrangelo for him straight up you do it in a heartbeat.

Personally, I'd also move him for Alzner, Carlson or OEL as well, but maybe I'm alone on those ones.

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06-16-2012, 05:53 PM
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Yes on Doughty, Karlson and Pietrangelo for sure.

Now Hamilton hasn't played a game but the upside is very high for him and I personally don't see the same upside from Alzner and Carlson and I have to be honest, but who is OEL ?

I'm really drawing a blank.
Oliver Ekman-Larson

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06-16-2012, 06:29 PM
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Said that too but since it's coming from Colt I was waiting to know more.

Fancy do da (dream boat) trades is not PC'S way of trade ideas. I am not saying he won't pick up the phone though.
i think colt meant chris bourque basically filling in for marchand along the wing.

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06-16-2012, 07:27 PM
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Jets management should do what they need to do to keep Kane, no team will give up the package that would be required in order to make it worth while for Winnipeg to lose him

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06-16-2012, 07:48 PM
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I give up Hamilton. Kane is a young superstar with grit and 40 goal potential who has already proven he can be a very good player in the NHL.

Hamilton could be the next great Bruin D-man, he could also be Aitken or have a top end of Kyle McLaren. Kane is a difference maker on offense, I would deal any prospect for him

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06-16-2012, 08:07 PM
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i think colt meant chris bourque basically filling in for marchand along the wing.
I think I threw up a little bit in my mouth reading Bourque replacing Marchand.

I really love Kane, but I think the price to acquire him would be complete prohibitive

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06-16-2012, 09:20 PM
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Chiarelli is not blowing the team up to acquire a player and acquiring Kane would require a minor blow up.

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06-16-2012, 09:21 PM
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Krejci + could probably get it done. Give the jets a true #1 center instead of the revolving door of youngsters they tried last year. Also reunites krejci with wheeler who's coming into his own.
Remember kessel not wanting to sign here no matter what? He was rfa as well. Kane can be had if he won't sign.

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06-16-2012, 09:24 PM
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Players value to a team is not objective (which player is better) but subjective (which player has more value to the specific team).

For cap hit, skill, and upside, Hamilton is not being traded for anyone except maybe RNH, OEL, or Pietrangelo. Doughty is a proven cup winner but the Bruins cannot afford a second 7 million defenseman (which is also why they will not sign Sutter). If you include cap hit, Hamilton is more valuable to the Bruins team (age of NHL dmen, other dmen prospects, and overall cap situation) than just about anyone.


I would love to see Kane in Boston but I don't know if both teams could swing a trade that benefits both sides. It would probably take Krejci, plus an offensive and defensive prospect.

Maybe Krejci + Spooner/Sauve + Bartkowski/Cross for Kane.

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06-16-2012, 09:27 PM
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I would think the only way Chia considers going after Kane is if Horton has to hang his skates up.
I wouldn't do Hamilton + in any case, potential top Dmen are a rare commodity.

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