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Kings Fans, Going Into Next Season Would You?

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06-21-2012, 09:45 AM
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Kings Fans, Going Into Next Season Would You?

This is kind of a trade question but doesnt really fit in the Trade Section Category. Mods feel free to move this if you feel best for the forum.


Kings and Flyers fans based on how these players looked this season past season, would either of you accept a trade today if it was:


LA Trades: Mike Richards

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Philly For:

Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds, 2013 2nd round pick.

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06-21-2012, 09:56 AM
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Not sure if this is a serious thread or just mocking Philly...

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Yeah, no way, I think LA's going to be holding onto Mike Richards.

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This is the same as saying "was the trade worth it?" I think we all know the answer to that.

Having said that...it was a fair trade for both. Leave as is and move on.

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Loved Simmonds, but I'd still do that trade without having any second doubts. Richards may not have set the world on fire with his stats but he was monumental in his performance in the playoffs.

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No, he legitimizes our top 6. The Richards trade was the turning point for the whole team upward. They had a top center, defenseman, and goaltender, all while being one of the best defensive teams in the league. What the Richards trade did was finally make our top 6 a threat. Before his concussion, during the first quarter of the season, we were on fire, when he went down, our offense went into the toilet. It is clear why. Mike Richards is the main/turning piece in making this team a contender. With him healthy, this team is a threat to score and keep the puck out of the net.

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No, he legitimizes our top 6. The Richards trade was the turning point for the whole team upward. They had a top center, defenseman, and goaltender, all while being one of the best defensive teams in the league. What the Richards trade did was finally make our top 6 a threat. Before his concussion, during the first quarter of the season, we were on fire, when he went down, our offense went into the toilet. It is clear why. Mike Richards is the main/turning piece in making this team a contender. With him healthy, this team is a threat to score and keep the puck out of the net.
Yup. He had something like 22 points in 27 games before the concussion. Now that he's recovered and will have a threat on his wing, I think he'll get back up into his normal 60ish point range next year

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Nope. It took quite awhile for Richards to even gain chemistry with his teammates. Schenn would have zero chemistry with this team. Simmonds would be the third line RW again, and would not score 28 goals in this system. It's more than just putting up fantasy hockey stats. Plus, you can't discount the fact that the Kings will not have to worry about any contracts with their top 2 centers until 2017. That is huge in the Cap era.

With Richards on the squad, I was confident that the team would bring it in the Playoffs with his on ice leadership and intensity and I would have to think that rubs off on his teammates as well. He set the tone for the entire Playoffs in Game 1 of the Vancouver series. Whether that really means a damn thing, I don't know. I just know this guy has now won on every single level and was a key component to each championship he's helped win. They won a Cup with Richards and that's all that matters to me and that kind of quality is what DL looks for, why he brought in Williams, Scuderi, Stoll and Greene. Guys who've been to the Cup Final. I'm sure some people scoffed when DL and Luc said Richards was a winner everywhere he went, because of the Final loss to Chicago. Can't say that anymore.

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I wouldn't reverse this deal as a Flyers fan either. Simmonds was incredible, and Schenn is going to be part of our core into the future. Trade is a win-win

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It also helps that the Kings brought up a player who plays a similar style to Simmonds in Jordan Nolan. He may not be as fast or as skilled as Simmonds, but he is so strong along the boards and wins lots of battles around corners. The trade for Richards opened an opportunity for the team to find a better balance throughout all four forward lines (and it was also helped with the addition of Jeff Carter).

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Flyers lost the trade, Kings won the cup. Coincidence?

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It should be an annual trade between the Kings and Flyers every summer. The 3 players should go back and forth, and whoever wins the most Cups wins the trade.

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I wouldn't reverse this deal as a Flyers fan either. Simmonds was incredible, and Schenn is going to be part of our core into the future. Trade is a win-win
Completely agree here.

Kings got the Cup and Flyers got a superb core for the future


Best example of win-win

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As a Kings fan I would do the deal again.
Now that we have Carter him Schenn and Simmonds would help solidfy our 2nd/3rd lines. Also this would free up space to after Parise.
I am a big Richards fan and feel he will be getting over 70 points next season, I am gratefull that he helped get the kingsthe cup, however some "new" blood needs to brought in to keep the room hungry for another cup.
It's the opposite of damned if you do damned if you don't. I am good either way.

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Philly got some great young players while freeing up the space to let Giroux shine, don't see why Philly fans complain about the trade.

LA won a cup, don't see why they would complain.

Further into hindsight we may begin to see who won/loss the trade, but for now it honestly does seem like a wash, possibly even Philly benefiting more from the trade in my opinion even though LA won the cup.

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Flyers lost the trade, Kings won the cup. Coincidence?
Why does there have to be a loser? Looks like a clear cut win/win to me.
As far as the Kings go, as was mentioned, they brought up someone with a similar game to Simmonds in Nolan to fill that role. Just as they brought up Voynov when they traded Johnson. The reason you stockpile assets is to trade your strengths to address weaknesses. The Kings had a gaping hole in 2nd line offensive threats. They brought in established players and legitimized their top 6.

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No way. Not even close. Mike Richards is what we needed for a long time. A legitimate second line center. Both teams benefited. Philly will be happy long-term and the Kings are in a window and needed Richards. The definition of a win-win. I apologize in advance for any Cup comments regarding Philly that will eventually show up

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Completely agree here.

Kings got the Cup and Flyers got a superb core for the future


Best example of win-win
Carter trade too was win win

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Philly got the most bodies in that deal but Richie brought in Gagne and the deal probably led to Carter too, which enabled quality playing time for King and Penner.

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I'd love to get Simmonds back, but no.

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Actually, now that I think about it. I'd say it's a win-who the hell cares scenario. I don't care what Schenn, Simmonds, JJ or those draft picks do in the future. No Cup is guaranteed, except for the one you've already won. As another forum poster so eloquently stated, 1 Cup in the hand is worth 2 in your dreams.

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Dude you should have made this thread with Toronto and Boston.


Tyler Seguin
Doug Hamilton
Jared Knight


Phil Kessel

Think Boston does this? I'm not so sure...

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