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Gregor: "Feaster will most likely be shopping Bouwmeester at the draft to move up"

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06-17-2012, 09:55 PM
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It would be stupid of the Islanders to trade a guarenteed seven years of Rielly/Dumba/Grigorenko/etc. for two years of a solid but overpaid Jay Bouwmeester. I think it's more likely that they overpay on a short term bonus laden deal for a player(s) like Huselius or Jokinen to reach the cap floor. *I'm predicting that Calgary trades Bouwmeester for a first round pick to a team like Tampa (10/19) Washington (11/16), Ottawa (15), Philadelphia (20) or St. Louis (25), then packages that pick with their own to try to move up in the draft. *Bouwmeester is, in my opinion, worth a first round pick in the 15-25 range from any of those teams.*

As an Oilers fan I'd be willing to offer Ryan Whitney or Marincin/Musil/Gernat, our 2nd round pick (32) and a player like Omark, Potter or Peckham to get Jay Bouwmeester. This lets us safely draft Yakupov while solidifying our defense.*

Is that enough to get it done Flames fans?
So like Musil, 2nd, Peckham...

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06-17-2012, 10:04 PM
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#1 reason is because the owner with his money losing lease, will not spend much higher the cap floor.Players want a chance to win the cup.It's tough to sell a cap floor team,as having a strong cup chance.


And can Wang really be blamed for wanting to spend close to the cap floor until 2015?

He made an agreement to privately finance the Lighthouse project.The nimby crowd and partisan politics derailed that plan.

Then pols sell him on a publicly funded arena project,which voters later vote down.

Wang and Snow have indicated that Wang won't be opening his checkbook.Why would fans be surprised, to read $6m-$7m per season players are out of the NYI budget?
So that's the stance you're taking? Fair enough.... I should never see you use the argument that the Islanders offered player X more money and they signed somewhere else then.

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06-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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So that's the stance you're taking? Fair enough.... I should never see you use the argument that the Islanders offered player X more money and they signed somewhere else then.
Isles offered big contracts before Aug 1st.Before Wang's 2nd arena plan was voted down.

Don't you think that if Wang was opening his checkbook,that he and Snow would be making a big deal about it,trying to lure tix buyers with that bit of news?

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06-17-2012, 10:14 PM
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Isles offered big contracts before Aug 1st.Before Wang's 2nd arena plan was voted down.

Don't you think that if Wang was opening his checkbook,that he and Snow would be making a big deal about it,trying to lure tix buyers with that bit of news?
Then why are they signing their own players to long term deals? Why are they trading for guys like Rolston (who made close to what JBo is making)?

As far as making a big deal out of it.... since when has this FO ever spread their intentions through the media?

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06-17-2012, 10:17 PM
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Spector's picks up Staples Newsday article,but gets Staples comments backwards

Staples writes why the isles won't be in the mix for JayBo,Ballard,Martin and Michalek.But,Spector's reports that Staples lists them as trade possibilities.
Nice fact checking

http://spectorshockey.net/blog/sunda...-june-17-2012/
Arthur Staple reports Islanders GM Garth Snow isn’t expected to trade his first round pick (4th overall), but he is apparently trying hard to land a defenseman for his thin blueline, as only Mark Streit, Travis Harmonic and Andrew MacDonald will be returning next season. A restricted free agent like Montreal’s P.K. Subban might’ve convinced Snow to part with his pick, but sources say the Canadiens won’t part with Subban. Trade possibilities are what Staple considers “veterans playing mediocre hockey on fairly unworkable contracts” including Calgary’s Jay Bouwmeester, Pittsburgh’s Zbynyk Michalek and Paul Martin, and Vancouver’s Keith Ballard.

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What's with all this propaganda from Flames fans about the worth of JayBow?

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Then why are they signing their own players to long term deals? Why are they trading for guys like Rolston (who made close to what JBo is making)?

As far as making a big deal out of it.... since when has this FO ever spread their intentions through the media?
Isles signed Grabner,KO and Tavares to team friendly,backloaded deals that fit into their budget.You don't think KO and Grabner eaching making $1m, wasn't a big reason the front office was so patient with them this season?

By the time they are making big money,Wang's current lease will have ended.He will either have a much favorable lease or have sold the team.

And Rolston had a 1 yr/$5m contract,when he was traded for Hunter,who had 2 yrs/$4m left on his deal.1 bad contract traded for a similar contract.Weight was retiring and the isles counted on Rolston replacing Weight's leadership on the ice and in the lockerroom.

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06-17-2012, 10:36 PM
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What's with all this propaganda from Flames fans about the worth of JayBow?
propaganda? Whats with all these ****** proposals we have enough trash we don't need others.

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What's with all this propaganda from Flames fans about the worth of JayBow?


There is a LARGE difference between his value to the Calgary Flames, and his perceived value around the league (or on these boards).

Calgary currently has two legit top four defensemen, why would they trade their top defensive player for less than fair value strictly due to his contract?? Especially if the management group is still trying to ice a competitive team.

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In what universe can a GM shop a player with a NTC?
Gauge interest, then ask the player to waive the NTC?

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06-17-2012, 11:34 PM
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Gauge interest, then ask the player to waive the NTC?
Hey, that sounds dangerously close to real life. We don't get with that here.

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Hey, that sounds dangerously close to real life. We don't get with that here.


Man, this thread is just gold.

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Yea okay I am sure no team would want a defenseman that can play 30 minutes a night
The problem is, that's about all he's good for. That and the fact he never gets hurt, which is more a result of him being soft. Throw in the fact he's overpaid and you get a player who's market value isn't very high. I never said they couldn't trade him, but he's not going to help them move up in the first round.

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The problem is, that's about all he's good for. That and the fact he never gets hurt, which is more a result of him being soft. Throw in the fact he's overpaid and you get a player who's market value isn't very high. I never said they couldn't trade him, but he's not going to help them move up in the first round.
He had twice the hits of Lindstrom and if you watch him you can see he is being misused.

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Why should Feaster be in a rush to trade him? His contract only runs for two more years and the Flames aren't anywhere near the cap.

Let's dump him for a sack of **** just because HF thinks he's bad?
It's not just HF that doesn't think highly of him. They aren't going to trade him for nothing because he does have some value. It's just not nearly enough value to think they can move up in the first round by dangling him as trade bait.

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He had twice the hits of Lindstrom and if you watch him you can see he is being misused.
He'd probably have a much better chance for success in another system, but the fact of the matter is, he still hasn't played well since signing in Calgary. Based on his play as a Flame, his value isn't as high as it could be, regardless if the team hasn't used him properly or not.

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Umm holy overpayment for the king of soft.
lol okay, maybe you should evaluate by watching not by stats and what people that dont even watch hime play say

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Wanna move up one spot?

Jbo + 14th for 13th?

(I hope the isn't needed)

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What's with all this propaganda from Flames fans about the worth of JayBow?
LOL???? we are not over hying his worth, im not gonna say hes worth alot on the trade market but hes worth alot to this team and if another team wants him there gonna have to pay a bit more.

Something i firmly believe on these boards is that some people shouldnt ever be incharge of a NHL franchise and comments like these are very much why

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Wanna move up one spot?

Jbo + 14th for 13th?

(I hope the isn't needed)
Sure but you'll have to add Benn as a throw in.

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Doesn't he have a NTC?

And why the hell isn't Calgary trading awy Kipper and Iginla yet? Or are they satisfied with another 10th in the West with their top players losing trade value as the days go by..

I just don't understand that organization...

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Doesn't he have a NTC?

And why the hell isn't Calgary trading awy Kipper and Iginla yet? Or are they satisfied with another 10th in the West with their top players losing trade value as the days go by..

I just don't understand that organization...
After reading this thread: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1203233 , I have a hard time wanting to do what the Oilers are doing.

Just me, as a fan of my team, and not a fan of another team telling other fans what to do, knowing that the negative consequences of such move have no bearing on your own enjoyment of hockey.

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He had twice the hits of Lindstrom and if you watch him you can see he is being misused.
Who?

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Who?
Nicholas Lindstrom, maybe you've heard of him?

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Nicholas Lindstrom, maybe you've heard of him?


Anyway, good luck Calgary.

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