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Gregor: "Feaster will most likely be shopping Bouwmeester at the draft to move up"

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06-18-2012, 03:19 AM
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06-18-2012, 04:11 AM
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With the massive contract that Jbo was given, I doubt any team would give up a top 5. The only team I could see considering it would be the Islanders. Snow likes to make weird deals, and god knows that would be a deal he would make.

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06-18-2012, 04:45 AM
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Jay Bouwmeester is the 4th highest paid defenceman in the league and has 4th weakest Corsi-rating of all defencemen. He hasn't seen playoffs ever in his career and has been a minus player throughout his career with one exeption. And he has a NTC.

That's maybe the hardest combination ever to build any trades.

Calgary will suck this contract up, right till the end, and lose him for free. But on that day, it could be only a good thing for the Flames.

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06-18-2012, 05:20 AM
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Jay Bouwmeester is the 4th highest paid defenceman in the league and has 4th weakest Corsi-rating of all defencemen. He hasn't seen playoffs ever in his career and has been a minus player throughout his career with one exeption. And he has a NTC.

That's maybe the hardest combination ever to build any trades.

Calgary will suck this contract up, right till the end, and lose him for free. But on that day, it could be only a good thing for the Flames.
Losing a work horse defenseman is not a good thing. When JBouw's contract expires, I hope the Flames can re-sign him. Just not for 6.8 AAV.

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06-18-2012, 05:37 AM
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Jay Bouwmeester is the 4th highest paid defenceman in the league and has 4th weakest Corsi-rating of all defencemen. He hasn't seen playoffs ever in his career and has been a minus player throughout his career with one exeption. And he has a NTC.

That's maybe the hardest combination ever to build any trades.

Calgary will suck this contract up, right till the end, and lose him for free. But on that day, it could be only a good thing for the Flames.
No it really couldn't. I'm an Avs fan and I gotta say that this constant dumping on JBo is quite annoying, he's a pretty good player who happens to be overpaid. If the Flames lose him for nothing it their defense will be significantly worse, but I guess it's more fun to constanty bring up his contract in attempts to undervalue his importance to the Flames.

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06-18-2012, 05:56 AM
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If Wang gave Snow the green light to sign P.Martin , C.Ehrhoff for approx 6 mil per(backloaded , so what) then I cant see why he'd have a problem paying Bouwmeester 6.6 .

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Yes and he would vastly upgrade their defense. In an offensive system I think JayBo can get back to his 15g/50pts.
When was that?

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When was that?
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How is that abomination of a contract going to move Calgary UP in the draft?

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If Wang gave Snow the green light to sign P.Martin , C.Ehrhoff for approx 6 mil per(backloaded , so what) then I cant see why he'd have a problem paying Bouwmeester 6.6 .
Is it reallly so hard to grasp,that those big offers were made BEFORE Aug.1st.

Before the 2nd arena project was voted down?

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06-18-2012, 08:18 AM
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With the massive contract that Jbo was given, I doubt any team would give up a top 5. The only team I could see considering it would be the Islanders. Snow likes to make weird deals, and god knows that would be a deal he would make.
When did Snow starting writing checks on LI?

I thought the budget was Wang's call?

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06-18-2012, 08:22 AM
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I'm sorry but at this point I think the only value JayBo has is negative value.

That contract is horrid and he's not putting up enough points to justify it.

I could see Iginla getting you into the top 5 but of course that has its own obstacles.

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06-18-2012, 08:27 AM
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Montreal sends Kaberle and CGY 2013 2nd for J-Bo and CGY 2012 3rd

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Montreal sends Kaberle and CGY 2013 2nd for J-Bo and CGY 2012 3rd
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If both would waive there movement clauses, I would do J-Bo for Briere.
Briere 6.5 per for 3 years.....J-Bo 6.68 for 2 years
Calgary gets a C that can pass to Jerome
Philly deals from the depth at F for a D-Man.

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I'm sorry but at this point I think the only value JayBo has is negative value.

That contract is horrid and he's not putting up enough points to justify it.

I could see Iginla getting you into the top 5 but of course that has its own obstacles.
He has 2 years left and is 28 while he may be overpaid many teams would like to add him. Negative value is what Redden has lower value than he should is what Jbo has.

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If both would waive there movement clauses, I would do J-Bo for Briere.
Briere 6.5 per for 3 years.....J-Bo 6.68 for 2 years
Calgary gets a C that can pass to Jerome
Philly deals from the depth at F for a D-Man.
I understand the logic behind this move, but fro a Flyers POV I wouldn't entertain trading Briere really for anyone. we have other pieces that can be moved. Briere's value off the ice and in the locker room are well needed for us. He takes in all the rookies and is a leader. People might not like the deal he is on, but every year the cap goes up it looks better for the Flyers. Briere is much more valuable to the Flyers then just a player on the ice.

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06-18-2012, 10:03 AM
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I think there is a market for Bouwmeester, but CGY is not going to move up into the top 5 with him being the main piece going the other way. Maybe Boumeester for NYI 2nd +??

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I think there is a market for Bouwmeester, but CGY is not going to move up into the top 5 with him being the main piece going the other way. Maybe Boumeester for NYI 2nd +??
I don't know where this top 5 pick came from the rumor only says move up.

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I understand the logic behind this move, but fro a Flyers POV I wouldn't entertain trading Briere really for anyone. we have other pieces that can be moved. Briere's value off the ice and in the locker room are well needed for us. He takes in all the rookies and is a leader. People might not like the deal he is on, but every year the cap goes up it looks better for the Flyers. Briere is much more valuable to the Flyers then just a player on the ice.
Not to mention he's a playoffs beast. Why would you trade a guy like that for a guy who hasn't seen the playoffs since juniors?

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I understand the logic behind this move, but fro a Flyers POV I wouldn't entertain trading Briere really for anyone. we have other pieces that can be moved. Briere's value off the ice and in the locker room are well needed for us. He takes in all the rookies and is a leader. People might not like the deal he is on, but every year the cap goes up it looks better for the Flyers. Briere is much more valuable to the Flyers then just a player on the ice.
While I do agree...I do like this line-up

Hartnell - Giroux - Jagr
JVR - Schenn - Voracek
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Wellwood - Talbot - Rinaldo
Shelley

Grossman J-Bow
Timonnen - Coburn
Gustafsson - Meszaros

And we have not added any salary

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06-18-2012, 10:13 AM
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While I do agree...I do like this line-up

Hartnell - Giroux - Jagr
JVR - Schenn - Voracek
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Wellwood - Talbot - Rinaldo
Shelley

Grossman J-Bow
Timonnen - Coburn
Gustafsson - Meszaros

And we have not added any salary
I am completely torn on JayBo. I have a feeling like he thrive in our offensive system, but I feel like that risk is too much because of his salary. I really have no clue whether I want him or not. I would definitely explore other options first before trying to get him. It's not a bad line-up though

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How is that abomination of a contract going to move Calgary UP in the draft?
Contrary to popular belief, JayBo does not have negative value. He still has pretty decent value.

He will be much cheaper than he is really worth due to the contract, but he is not a bad player, nor one with negative value.

He can move them up a number of spots in the draft, if a team was interested. Don't see him being enough to move upto top 5 though.

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I am completely torn on JayBo. I have a feeling like he thrive in our offensive system, but I feel like that risk is too much because of his salary. I really have no clue whether I want him or not. I would definitely explore other options first before trying to get him. It's not a bad line-up though
I agree on being torn...as I am a Flyers fan as well. We don't have and Forwards that are high salary that don't earn their $. JVR is the closest but in reality, he has yet to play a season earing 4.25 so we shall see this season. Moving Briere would open a C spot for Schenn as Briere is not comfortable on the wing. And it fills the need of a D-man that can move the puck. Paired with Grossman, he can let him to the net clearing. I would not trade JVR for him because of JVR's upside. And no other F makes enough yet.

*EDIT* And we would still have roughly 5-7 mill in Cap space.

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If both would waive there movement clauses, I would do J-Bo for Briere.
Briere 6.5 per for 3 years.....J-Bo 6.68 for 2 years
Calgary gets a C that can pass to Jerome
Philly deals from the depth at F for a D-Man.
I would pass not that is a bad proposal but moving Jbo means we need to rebuild as I doubt we sign Suter and no one else in FA can replace him. So getting an older player in Briere is a bad idea I wold only move him for young players.

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