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12-13-2012, 11:35 PM
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Not to get them all upset but encouraged by the team Canada brought, I would have gone different in a couple areas. Certainly helps what some of us expect to be a smaller USA team and they can target Murphy.
Target Murhpy while SH? He'll be a PP specialist for sure. And will shred you.

Target away!

But...if any injury forces him into a regular shift, he can definitely be exposed.

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12-14-2012, 04:10 AM
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Target Murhpy while SH? He'll be a PP specialist for sure. And will shred you.

Target away!

But...if any injury forces him into a regular shift, he can definitely be exposed.
I know he isn't going to play shorthanded, but when you catch him out on regular shifts he can be exposed.

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12-14-2012, 04:20 AM
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I know he isn't going to play shorthanded, but when you catch him out on regular shifts he can be exposed.
He's a real wild card. When he's on, he's magic. He jumps in and leads rushes and still gets back in position right after. When he's off, it can be brain fart city. I think he's been a victim of having people try to change his game over the past couple of years. Over thinking can cause errors. I just hope he's on over 6 or 7 games, with no Clendening like games.

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12-14-2012, 04:52 AM
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Does everyone not remember the Ryan Murphy show 2011 in Germany on olympic sized ice? Did anyone actually watch the semifinal game against USA and then the bronze medal game against Russia. With weak minutes Ryan Murphy is going to destroy this tourney on the big ice.

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12-14-2012, 05:54 AM
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Does everyone not remember the Ryan Murphy show 2011 in Germany on olympic sized ice? Did anyone actually watch the semifinal game against USA and then the bronze medal game against Russia. With weak minutes Ryan Murphy is going to destroy this tourney on the big ice.
I remember it well and I suggest you check the other part of the stat sheet. Of the five goals the USA team scored Murphy was on ice for all but the first one.

I am surprised thinking back on that tournament though that Russo didn't make it to camp. He is off to a good start at Notre Dame.


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12-14-2012, 06:00 AM
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I remember it well and I suggest you check the other part of the stat sheet. Of the five goals the USA team scored Murphy was on ice for all but the first one.
Murphy was the go to defensmen on that team with Ryan Murray. You give him soft minutes and see what happens. He is an asset no other team has, you take the bad with the good.

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12-14-2012, 09:11 AM
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Murphy was the go to defensmen on that team with Ryan Murray. You give him soft minutes and see what happens. He is an asset no other team has, you take the bad with the good.
Less goals will be scored against Canada.

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It isn't always that easy to give a player soft minutes, especially when every team is going to know he is a weak link defensively. Unless you just expect him to never play at even strength.

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When are our American cousins at USAHOCKEY posting the final roster? Can't wait to see the battle of potential #1 picks, Nate v Seth.

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Murphy was the go to defensmen on that team with Ryan Murray. You give him soft minutes and see what happens. He is an asset no other team has, you take the bad with the good.
I dunno, I just saw Murphy fail to get anything going in two games on the big ice vs vastly inferior competition than he's going to see in Ufa.

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I know he isn't going to play shorthanded, but when you catch him out on regular shifts he can be exposed.
I meant are you going to expose him while YOU'RE shorthanded? Meaning he'll only really see the ice on the PP. At least I pray that's the plan.

On the PP, the kid is the best in the world at this level. His skating, vision, puck movement on the PP is by far the best of any d-man in this tournament. And I mean BY FAR.

However, as has been beaten to death, other aspects of his game can definitely be exposed.

Back to the original point though, I don't think there will be many, if any, opportunities to catch him even strength. However, if an injury on the backend forces him into a regular shift, that's where it gets scary.

Man I am very much looking forward to seeing Team USA play. I think they, along with Finland, are far too under-rated. Everyone is rah rah Canada/Russia. But for me, John Gibson is the best goalie in this tournament, and that alone makes you a threat to win Gold.

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12-14-2012, 11:59 AM
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I meant are you going to expose him while YOU'RE shorthanded? Meaning he'll only really see the ice on the PP. At least I pray that's the plan.

On the PP, the kid is the best in the world at this level. His skating, vision, puck movement on the PP is by far the best of any d-man in this tournament. And I mean BY FAR.

However, as has been beaten to death, other aspects of his game can definitely be exposed.

Back to the original point though, I don't think there will be many, if any, opportunities to catch him even strength. However, if an injury on the backend forces him into a regular shift, that's where it gets scary.

Man I am very much looking forward to seeing Team USA play. I think they, along with Finland, are far too under-rated. Everyone is rah rah Canada/Russia. But for me, John Gibson is the best goalie in this tournament, and that alone makes you a threat to win Gold.
Exactly. Without a doubt, Gibson is the best goalie in this tourney. People who don't get a chance to see him play will be impressed by his performance. After this tourney, he will finally be mentioned in the usual "Who is the best goalie prospect" thread on this site. Very underrated prospect and really, people should be talking more about this guy.

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Exactly. Without a doubt, Gibson is the best goalie in this tourney. People who don't get a chance to see him play will be impressed by his performance. After this tourney, he will finally be mentioned in the usual "Who is the best goalie prospect" thread on this site. Very underrated prospect and really, people should be talking more about this guy.
We know who he is, he had a game earlier this year (was Kitchener's first trip to the Budweiser Gardens to play the London Knights) in which he had a terrific game. Forgot how many saves he actually had but he was a treat to watch. Single handedly won the game for Kitchener against a powerhouse knights team.

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Exactly. Without a doubt, Gibson is the best goalie in this tourney. People who don't get a chance to see him play will be impressed by his performance. After this tourney, he will finally be mentioned in the usual "Who is the best goalie prospect" thread on this site. Very underrated prospect and really, people should be talking more about this guy.
I find with goalies its less about how skilled they are and more about how they handle the pressure packed situations. We've seen highly touted guys like Jack Campbell come in and look lost and nobodies like Mrazek or Janus come in and stand on their head.

The US will need Gibson to be at the top of his game in order to go deep in this tourney.

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Do you think Gaudreau will make the team? If so, will it be in a top 6 role?

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Do you think Gaudreau will make the team? If so, will it be in a top 6 role?
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Fine. Thanks you.

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Big blow to the team if the IIHF enforces Noesen's 10 game OHL suspension.

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12-14-2012, 02:38 PM
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Big blow to the team if the IIHF enforces Noesen's 10 game OHL suspension.
What happened?

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Big blow to the team if the IIHF enforces Noesen's 10 game OHL suspension.
What? Could you explain what happened?

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Charging incident on the 8th. If IIHF upholds, USAH can appeal. They didn't uphold Huburdeau's but they have to others before. Chris Peters has a good piece up on his blog now.

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Charging incident on the 8th. If IIHF upholds, USAH can appeal. They didn't uphold Huburdeau's but they have to others before. Chris Peters has a good piece up on his blog now.
i saw they didnt for huberdeau as well. if they uphold noesen's will they have to uphold huberdeau's or is it a more case by case basis?

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Charging incident on the 8th. If IIHF upholds, USAH can appeal. They didn't uphold Huburdeau's but they have to others before. Chris Peters has a good piece up on his blog now.
I was going to bring up Huburdeau. What's his QMJHL status right now?

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I find with goalies its less about how skilled they are and more about how they handle the pressure packed situations. We've seen highly touted guys like Jack Campbell come in and look lost and nobodies like Mrazek or Janus come in and stand on their head.

The US will need Gibson to be at the top of his game in order to go deep in this tourney.
Campbell would be more of a this is how short the tournament is scenario as he has handled it both ways. Don't forget he has a gold medal in this tournament and a best goalie award, don't let his last year with an incredibly disappointing team that probably could have played an NHL netminder and been sent packing completely rule your thinking.

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I remember it well and I suggest you check the other part of the stat sheet. Of the five goals the USA team scored Murphy was on ice for all but the first one.
Well so was Ryan Murray.

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