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06-24-2012, 02:34 PM
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Schultz would be perfect here for so many reasons. I hope he realizes that. He could be an all-star playing on a PP with our kids.

Be smart Justin, choose us.

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He'll be in Toronto on Tuesday so his buddies and Burke will have an opportunity to wine and dine him before everyone else, they have his friend Gardiner, they just opened up a spot on defense by moving Schenn.... there is smoke here.

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He'll be in Toronto on Tuesday so his buddies and Burke will have an opportunity to wine and dine him before everyone else, they have his friend Gardiner, they just opened up a spot on defense by moving Schenn.... there is smoke here.
I agree. It is just too logical at this point. My hopes of him signing here are nil.

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He'll be in Toronto on Tuesday so his buddies and Burke will have an opportunity to wine and dine him before everyone else, they have his friend Gardiner, they just opened up a spot on defense by moving Schenn.... there is smoke here.
It's a ****ing forest fire - not just smoke. Schultz is as good as a Maple Leaf. I really don't think the Oilers have a chance.

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He'll be in Toronto on Tuesday so his buddies and Burke will have an opportunity to wine and dine him before everyone else, they have his friend Gardiner, they just opened up a spot on defense by moving Schenn.... there is smoke here.
People keep saying this. Where is this spot? Phaneuf, Liles, Gardiner, Gunnarsson, Komisarek, Franson are all NHL d-men, and the leafs have a couple AHL guys who will likely be pushing for spots as well. If Schultz is looking for a franchise with a spot or two on defense, we're his team.

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I highly doubt that the Schenn trade's main purpose was to open up a spot for Schultz, JVR is a big and speedy forward that will play in their top 6, IMO TO won that trade hands down. As for him being in TO, that's where his agency is and that's supposedly why he'll be going there. If he does go to TO, the kid isn't very bight IMO. His best bet would be to sign here for playing time, a better 2nd contract, etc. or in Vancouver if he wants to chase a cup right away. How many high end college FA's has Burke buried in the minors over the years? Scrivens is one of those guys.

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Bring Hall, Eberle, RNH and Yak with you and say these are the guys you will be playing with for the next 12 yrs on one of the best PP in the league.

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s7ark,

You don't think Burke can trade one of Franson/Gunnarson, if not both?

Schultz to the Leafs makes too much sense.

Throw out all of the combinations you want, but this is Brian Burke. When he wants something, he will do all he can to obtain it.

I hope Schultz signs with us, even if the possibility does not overly positive.

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I highly doubt that the Schenn trade's main purpose was to open up a spot for Schultz, JVR is a big and speedy forward that will play in their top 6, IMO TO won that trade hands down. As for him being in TO, that's where his agency is and that's supposedly why he'll be going there. If he does go to TO, the kid isn't very bight IMO. His best bet would be to sign here for playing time, a better 2nd contract, etc. or in Vancouver if he wants to chase a cup right away. How many high end college FA's has Burke buried in the minors over the years? Scrivens is one of those guys.
Exactly Bryan, Schenn and JVR would have been swapped at the trade deadline last season if not for JVR's injury. It had nothing to do with Schultz. It is widely known that Dion and Luke did not get along and Wilson ruined Schenn in Toronto.

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He'll be in Toronto on Tuesday so his buddies and Burke will have an opportunity to wine and dine him before everyone else, they have his friend Gardiner, they just opened up a spot on defense by moving Schenn.... there is smoke here.
I don't see it.

Phanuef, Gunnarsson, Liles, Gardiner, Franson and Komisarek. Those are a fairly good chance to be locks to play for the Leafs D this season. Add in guys like Holzer, and they are fairly saturated.

What about PP time? Liles, Phanuef and Gardiner are fairly good PP producers, would Schultz get time over that?

So what Burke gets a possible first chance at him, it really means little imo. Especially looking at the D they already have.

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People keep saying this. Where is this spot? Phaneuf, Liles, Gardiner, Gunnarsson, Komisarek, Franson are all NHL d-men, and the leafs have a couple AHL guys who will likely be pushing for spots as well. If Schultz is looking for a franchise with a spot or two on defense, we're his team.
They have 2 RHD while IMO we only have one NHL level RHD in Petry.

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People keep saying this. Where is this spot? Phaneuf, Liles, Gardiner, Gunnarsson, Komisarek, Franson are all NHL d-men, and the leafs have a couple AHL guys who will likely be pushing for spots as well. If Schultz is looking for a franchise with a spot or two on defense, we're his team.
Exactly. They're already too deep. I think it comes down to which is most important for him. playing with Gardiner(if he makes the team), an immediate chance at the cup, or playing a key role as a top 4 dman

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Only thing I am wondering about is if the tampering rumors about Toronto are true, than the Leafs basically have to back off Schultz or risk getting a pretty hefty slap on the wrist from the league...Probably lose a first round pick or 2.

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We seem like a better fit for him career wise, but just the visual of what's happening in Toronto makes it seem unlikely.. Would love to have him though.

Maybe we'll end up with one of Toronto's surplus defense

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s7ark,

You don't think Burke can trade one of Franson/Gunnarson, if not both?

Schultz to the Leafs makes too much sense.

Throw out all of the combinations you want, but this is Brian Burke. When he wants something, he will do all he can to obtain it.

I hope Schultz signs with us, even if the possibility does not overly positive.
And you don't think that our management would scratch and claw to get Schultz? He is EXACTLY what the Dr. ordered here and would make our team even more dynamic than it already is. The Oilers are going to make a full court press to get the kid, and like I've said before if he signs in TO the kid isn't very bright.

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Exactly Bryan, Schenn and JVR would have been swapped at the trade deadline last season if not for JVR's injury. It had nothing to do with Schultz. It is widely known that Dion and Luke did not get along and Wilson ruined Schenn in Toronto.
No doubt Schenn fell out of favor and JVR is damn fine value for him, they would've made this move regardless of if Schultz was available or had already signed elsewhere.

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And you don't think that our management would scratch and claw to get Schultz? He is EXACTLY what the Dr. ordered here and would make our team even more dynamic than it already is. The Oilers are going to make a full court press to get the kid, and like I've said before if he signs in TO the kid isn't very bright.

No doubt Schenn fell out of favor and JVR is damn fine value for him, they would've made this move regardless of if Schultz was available or had already signed elsewhere.
And will be regreting it . Leaf clown show will continue.

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s7ark,

You don't think Burke can trade one of Franson/Gunnarson, if not both?

Schultz to the Leafs makes too much sense.

Throw out all of the combinations you want, but this is Brian Burke. When he wants something, he will do all he can to obtain it.

I hope Schultz signs with us, even if the possibility does not overly positive.
Of course he could make more moves to open up a space, my point is that moving Schenn doesn't open up a space for him. And yet that is all you hear on the Schultz topic. "TO moved Schenn, Schultz must be a lock there." I just don't follow this logic.

And why do the leafs make too much sense? What can they possibly offer that trumps what Edmonton or Vancouver could offer, except that his friend plays on the team.

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The moment Schenn got traded I pictured Schultz in a leaf uni

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If he wants to get lots of playing time, lots of PP time, and a chance to put up big numbers so that he can raise his value to cash in on his second contract in 2 year time, then TO is not a good choice at all. In TO, he'd be there 4th option on the PP, behind Phaneuf, Liles, and Gardiner. I don't think he'd see any first unit PP time and therefore he'd wouldn't be playing with guys like Kessel and Lupul, instead he'd be playing with Colby Armstrong and other 2nd liners. In Edmonton, he could arguably step in and be our number option on the PP, he would at least get a chance at that, the rest would be up to him. Here, he'd be playing with Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, Hemsky, Gagner... there is no comparison between the opportunities. If he wants to make more money on his 2nd contract, if he wants a better chance to win, if he wants to grow with a dynamic young team that's on the verge of becoming an offensive powerhouse, then Edmonton is by far his best choice.

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Only thing I am wondering about is if the tampering rumors about Toronto are true, than the Leafs basically have to back off Schultz or risk getting a pretty hefty slap on the wrist from the league...Probably lose a first round pick or 2.
I think it's pretty unlikely that any tampering allegations will be proven. Unless its blatant it will be pretty hard to do. I doubt anything at all comes from this.

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I hope he pulls a Lebron and has a special. Hopefully he takes his talents to Edmonton

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The moment Schenn got traded I pictured Schultz in a leaf uni
Well at least when you pictured Schenn in an Oilers jersey for #1 that didn't come true, so let's hope that you go 2/2

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If I were Schultz's agent, I would be reminding him that he will always be behind Gardiner in TO. In Edmonton, he would likely be our highest scoring d next year. While it is nice getting to play with your buds and all, this decision could definitely affect his contract value.

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So he's in toronto this week getting wined and dined? Doesn't sound too good for the Oilers.

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So he's in toronto this week getting wined and dined? Doesn't sound too good for the Oilers.
It's because his agent is there.. he's meeting with them, just speculation on the Leaf stuff.

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