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10-12-2012, 09:13 PM
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Everyone gets one ball (Oilers shouldn't IMO), but it's based on number of times a team has made the playoffs or had the #1 overall pick the last 3 seasons IIRC.
That's the truth. The collective board standings lottery predictions is only a system I modeled after the NHL draft's. There's no way of actually telling how likely a team is to make the playoffs without having played a single game. Teams like the SE division winner Hurricanes have a 4% chance to win the Stanley cup (2/48 balls total) Non playoff losers get 2% (1 ball divided by 48 total).

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10-13-2012, 03:47 AM
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What if the players on the team have got no balls?

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10-13-2012, 06:05 AM
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What if the players on the team have got no balls?
Kessel? no wait, that's one.

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10-15-2012, 02:53 PM
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Chip retweeted our good old friend Tammy.

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10-15-2012, 03:10 PM
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Chip retweeted our good old friend Tammy.
In one tweet she said she was a 10-year season ticket holder and that it was her third lockout...

I may be mistaken, but the Canes weren't even in existence for the first lockout, were they?

The only one who may be more confused about her timeline than me is her.

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10-15-2012, 03:17 PM
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Kudos to Chip for giving me the idea of turning my Canes tickets into State basketball tickets, I might actually look into that.

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10-15-2012, 03:21 PM
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In one tweet she said she was a 10-year season ticket holder and that it was her third lockout...

I may be mistaken, but the Canes weren't even in existence for the first lockout, were they?

The only one who may be more confused about her timeline than me is her.
You are not mistaken. 94/95 was the first lockout.

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Haha, Tammy...

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10-15-2012, 05:38 PM
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You are not mistaken. 94/95 was the first lockout.
and it sucked. my first experience losing the game at a point where i was truly obsessive about watching.

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10-15-2012, 06:25 PM
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I guess I don't get Tammy's point of view. I love hockey and I love the entertainment it provides me...to the point that nothing comes close to rivaling it. So in no way would I consider NOT going to games as some kind of "punishment" to the NHL. The only person receiving that punishment would be me, ie. not seeing the sport I love.

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10-15-2012, 08:54 PM
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So if I am reading correctly, tomorrows meeting could determine whether the league begins play within the next 2-3 weeks, or they cancel the games until around Thanksgiving. And it sounds like the latter is more likely.

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10-16-2012, 12:01 PM
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NHL tabled a new offer. 50/50 split with no salary rollbacks. 82 game season.

If the players turn this down, they have lost their freaking minds and will lose a lot of fan support.

Please take it and let's play some hockey!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=407490

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10-16-2012, 12:27 PM
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Put your damn ego aside and take the offer, I don't think they are gonna get a better offer than that.

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10-16-2012, 12:28 PM
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50/50 of what revenue?

That remains as a pretty critical element.

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10-16-2012, 12:29 PM
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That is beyond fair. I'll be livid if the players reject it.

Please accept

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10-16-2012, 12:42 PM
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NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr said the offer - which is at least six years in length - is an "excellent start" and he would go over it with his membership in a 5pm et conference call.
Please please please please please please please please

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10-16-2012, 12:46 PM
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PLEASE OH GOD PLEASE... I don't ask for a whole lot. I really need hockey right now. Please....

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10-16-2012, 12:49 PM
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They won't accept it. Allan Walsh is already tweeting about how the deal is a "transfer" of $1.3B from players to owners over six years....you know, an imaginary transfer of nonexistent money from an expired CBA that no longer exists.

It's obvious players feel entitled to a share far above 50% simply because that's how it was under the last CBA.

Much of the NHLPA's position seems to be based around a grudge over losing a season seven years ago and an expired CBA. They are living in fantasy land if they think they are getting anywhere close to 57% again.

Of course, we are talking about a $3.3B a year league. Losing an entire season would cost players $1.65B under a 50-50 split....over one year. Giving up $1.65B in one year so you don't have to give up $1.3B total over six years is pure retardation and nothing else.


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If true, welcome to PR hell players. 50/50 split is what your average fan considers fair. All momentum generated by a feel good campaign of the players falls flat with a wholesale rejection of this olive branch from ownership. How much more fair does it get than 50/50?

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10-16-2012, 12:59 PM
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Add to that no lifelong contracts, 4 year ELCs, and the UFA age being raised by one year.

The lemming players will be out in full force on Twitter tomorrow with their righteous indignation and their hashtags.

Watching this idiocy is almost as fun as hockey itself.

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10-16-2012, 01:02 PM
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Those other points will likely be negotiated upon. No way the owners will get everything else they want.

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@JSportsnet: Another interesting tidbit from NHL offer... Players' Salaries for those NHLers playing in the AHL would be part of the cap.
The Redden Clause

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10-16-2012, 01:06 PM
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The Redden Clause
About ****ing time on that one too.

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10-16-2012, 01:31 PM
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Dear NHL:



TAKE THE OFFER!

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no one should be looking at this as something that will be accepted. there was like 48 moments exactly like today last lockout. the only positive thing that could come of this is the beginning of an actual negotiation.

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