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06-18-2012, 05:52 PM
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Canucks Qualify Schneider, Lack, and Weise (UPD: Gragnani as well)

Agent for Schneider says he will fly to Pittsburgh to negotiate contract with Canucks at the draft.

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http://www.news1130.com/sports/artic...and-eddie-lack

Canucks have till the 25th to offer QO's to MAG, Duco, Oreo, and Parent. I can see Parent and Oreo being let go at this point.

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IN LIMBO: The Canucks still have four other restricted free agents — Marc-Andre Gragnani, Mike Duco, Victor Oreskovich and Ryan Parent — to either qualify or release by the June 25 deadline.

“It is possible that one or more could receive a qualifying offer between now and next Monday,” Gilman said cryptically.

Based on last season, it doesn't appear that Parent and Oreskovich are the possibilities.
Source: http://www.vancouver...l#ixzz1yCH6YKu9


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Agent for Schneider says he will fly to Pittsburgh to negotiate contract with Canucks at the draft.


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Article's pretty dumb in that it says 'tips their hand on how canucks will handle goalies'.

Really? That is such a huge stretch...........

I mean to say, they should just give away assets for free??? What a stupid article. MSM can be so uselss sometimes.

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Article's pretty dumb in that it says 'tips their hand on how canucks will handle goalies'.

Really? That is such a huge stretch...........

I mean to say, they should just give away assets for free??? What a stupid article. MSM can be so uselss sometimes.
Ironically the article doesn't say that at all and i read three times just now. It says "Could be sign of their future in net." So what's that say about you?

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Deadline

What is the deadline for tendering offers? Has the door closed on the four not yet tendered?

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Ironically the article doesn't say that at all and i read three times just now. It says "Could be sign of their future in net." So what's that say about you?
"Could be sign of their future in net."

that i interpreted the expression thusly?

It's a pretty stupid statement. How is that a sign of the future in net at all? Qualifying RFA's is hardly a shocking move.

Not sure what you mean by 'What's that say about you?'

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Agent for Schneider says he will fly to Pittsburgh to negotiate contract with Canucks at the draft.
mike liut said they'd meet, but this was tweeted by kuzma this afternoon:

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#Canucks asst. GM Laurence Gilman & agent Mike Luit say no formal talks re Cory Schneider planned in Pgh at draft, tho conversation possible
so i guess they could arrive at a contract but i'd say that's highly unlikely.

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mike liut said they'd meet, but this was tweeted by kuzma this afternoon:



so i guess they could arrive at a contract but i'd say that's highly unlikely.
Some dialogue is better than none.

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Weiss?

Same old team. Every year.

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Weiss?

Same old team. Every year.
Yeah, that's right, we should let all our RFAs walk for nothing. That's good asset management.

Unbelievable some people.

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Deadline was 2 pm EST.
If that is all the news, then that leaves:

Parent
Gragnani
Duco
Oreskovich

as RFA who are not qualified.
They automatically become UFAs.

More curious about Gragnani.
Does this mean the Nucks are planning to add some D-men either in a trade or through free agency?
Or they are cutting their losses and opening up the contract slots?

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Deadline was 2 pm EST.
If that is all the news, then that leaves:

Parent
Gragnani
Duco
Oreskovich

as RFA who are not qualified.
They automatically become UFAs.

More curious about Gragnani.
Does this mean the Nucks are planning to add some D-men either in a trade or through free agency?
Or they are cutting their losses and opening up the contract slots?
I think it means they're going to look a dman through trade or FA. Interesting though considering they were so high on him when Hodgson was traded.

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Deadline was 2 pm EST.
If that is all the news, then that leaves:

Parent
Gragnani
Duco
Oreskovich

as RFA who are not qualified.
They automatically become UFAs.

More curious about Gragnani.
Does this mean the Nucks are planning to add some D-men either in a trade or through free agency?
Or they are cutting their losses and opening up the contract slots?
Keep in mind, this doesn't yet mean they haven't been qualified. It just means we haven't heard from their agents yet. I would expect Gragnani to get qualified.

Parent, Duco, and Oreskovich can move on elsewhere, no need for them here.

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More curious about Gragnani.
Does this mean the Nucks are planning to add some D-men either in a trade or through free agency?
Or they are cutting their losses and opening up the contract slots?
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I think it means they're going to look a dman through trade or FA. Interesting though considering they were so high on him when Hodgson was traded.
what's really weird is that they went out of their way to play him exactly the number of games they needed to keep his rfa rights. i guess that was just an extended tryout period and he failed to win a spot.

honestly though, this doesn't upset me in the least. there are going to be better options via trade/free agency for the upcoming season.

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I'd be shocked if they didn't qualify Gragnani.

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Keep in mind, this doesn't yet mean they haven't been qualified. It just means we haven't heard from their agents yet. I would expect Gragnani to get qualified.

Parent, Duco, and Oreskovich can move on elsewhere, no need for them here.
I wouldn't mind retaining Duco on a similar type deal to what he had this year. He was decent in his callup and had some good games for Chicago.

Oreskovich and Parent can be cut free, though.

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According to Elliott Pap they have till the 25 to be qualified which means Saturday.

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The moves are a formality as both netminders figure prominently in the Canucks’ plans for 2012-13, especially with Roberto Luongo on the trade market. The deadline for tendering qualifying offers is June 25. Fourth-line winger Dale Weise was also qualified.
Source: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/V...#ixzz1yCF20cXf

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I'd be shocked if they didn't qualify Gragnani.
Worst-case scenario is you sign him and try to sneak him through the waivers so he can put up his 60-ish points in Chicago.

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what's really weird is that they went out of their way to play him exactly the number of games they needed to keep his rfa rights. i guess that was just an extended tryout period and he failed to win a spot.

honestly though, this doesn't upset me in the least. there are going to be better options via trade/free agency for the upcoming season.
Apparently he has till the 25th. So we'll see soon enough. As much as I can see us choosing to go through the FA route, Grags can still be a valuable asset moving forward. He's still young.

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Worst-case scenario is you sign him and try to sneak him through the waivers so he can put up his 60-ish points in Chicago.
Exactly. Even if they don't want him in the NHL, he's still a decent asset either in a trade or to make the Wolves instantly much better. I'd imagine that it's just not confirmed yet.

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Keep in mind, this doesn't yet mean they haven't been qualified. It just means we haven't heard from their agents yet. I would expect Gragnani to get qualified.

Parent, Duco, and Oreskovich can move on elsewhere, no need for them here.
Yeah, no mistake about it, Gragnani will be qualified for sure.

He might not be on the starting roster, but he'll get his share of games if an injury should occur. Unless, of course, Mike Gillis already has the inside tracks that we'll be getting Jeff Schultz.

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According to Elliott Pap they have till the 25 to be qualified which means Saturday.
Ahh, bad information on my part.
I read the wrong date somewhere.
Thank you for clearing it up.

So...
Much ado about nothing.

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I don't see why Gragnani is a lock to get qualified and Duco isn't. Duco played very well up here and deserves to be competing for a 4th line spot.


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Gragnani not being qualified is unusual. are they planning something?

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Not qualifying Gragnani, if in fact that is true, could be a move to encourage Justin Shultz to sign here.

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Keep in mind, this doesn't yet mean they haven't been qualified. It just means we haven't heard from their agents yet. I would expect Gragnani to get qualified.

Parent, Duco, and Oreskovich can move on elsewhere, no need for them here.
Pretty much my thoughts. Parents is definitely out, i don't see the value in holding up a contract spot on Duco, and it's fairly clear that Oreskovich has burned up all of his opportunities to make his way to the bigs on a more permanent basis.


Gragnani seems like a likely bet for a QO, especially given that it's a fairly small $ value attached, but at the same time, it wouldn't be outrageous or overly shocking if he wasn't qualified. He's got a lot of work to do on rounding out his game, and with his waiver status, i'm not sure Gillis is overly keen on having MAG occupying an NHL roster spot all year when there are probably better, more reliable options for that role available in FA and even via trade. As well, we have a pair of guys in Sauve and Connauton who i think are likely bets to see a bit of ice as call-ups at some point during the season...guys with likely more a future here in this organization, favourable waiver exemption status, etc. And down on the farm in Chicago, i could see Gillis being more interested in giving those prime minutes to our young developing prospects, rather than a guy like MAG.

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