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06-20-2012, 10:41 PM
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With the cloud of silence lifted, are u bothered by no mention of Habs in rumours?

I was just wondering, with this new regime all about communication (I mean the Habs GM was on the TSN mock draft show for crying out loud), if anyone else was bothered by the fact that the Habs are not being mentioned in any of the big chases for players, such as Nash, Staal, Ryan etc.?

I just found it odd.

Btw, my comment is based on mention by legitimate sources.

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eh.... no.

first off, habs don't have the pieces to acquire those players. second, er... off, if they did empty what little prospects we have for them, the team would arguably be left worst off because of it.

actually, i'd be worried if the habs were in the running for those guys

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06-20-2012, 10:49 PM
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A 60-70 point player for 7.1m? Nah...I'm pretty happy that we're not involved in those rumors.

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We should be in in Staal.

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Gomez + Kaberle = that is all.

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eh.... no.

first off, habs don't have the pieces to acquire those players. second, er... off, if they did empty what little prospects we have for them, the team would arguably be left worst off because of it.

actually, i'd be worried if the habs were in the running for those guys
And Toronto and Carolina do?

Take a look at what star players have been traded for over the last decade or so... typically, the players going the other way are "stars" or really truly become elite players.

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A 60-70 point player for 7.1m? Nah...I'm pretty happy that we're not involved in those rumors.
What about J Staal or B. Ryan, tough?

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06-20-2012, 11:12 PM
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What about J Staal or B. Ryan, tough?
You know...It's weird. I don't see Nash going anywhere until Ryan is moved or off the market. I'd take Ryan along with his much friendlier cap hit over Nash.

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What about J Staal or B. Ryan, tough?
If Ryan's on the market, you can bet he'll go to Burke...Burke's fleeced anaheims a few times and we already know how big he is on Ryan...Don't see Bergevin giving up the amount of assets it would take.

As for Staal, I don't believe that he's on the market...If he is though, he's still not what we need...

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06-20-2012, 11:23 PM
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Rumours are often false anyways...

And most of the rumours concerning the Habs (Dudlay, Mellenby, Lapointe and so on) became true.

But we're not in the running for a guy like Rick Nash anyways so...

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06-20-2012, 11:28 PM
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Rumours, regardless of the source, are just speculation. The new management preaches open communication within the organization and with the media, but it does not mean leaking sensitive information to the media. Chances are that if the Habs are mentioned in a rumour, it won't be true.

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Maybe Gauthier was the source of all Habs rumours in the past 5 years?

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06-20-2012, 11:42 PM
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I was just wondering, with this new regime all about communication (I mean the Habs GM was on the TSN mock draft show for crying out loud), if anyone else was bothered by the fact that the Habs are not being mentioned in any of the big chases for players, such as Nash, Staal, Ryan etc.?

I just found it odd.

Btw, my comment is based on mention by legitimate sources.
I actually quite enjoy that. The rumouroids are scrambling trying to find stuff to invent to satisfy the needs of their followers and worshipers and it's funny to see them be all over the map with no distinct direction.

Because the McKenzie and Dreger of this world don't mention anything doesn't mean that Bergevin is not in there. Because Bergevin is now GM doesn't mean that the other teams don't leak info about their own team.

For example, if someone is a leak in Philly, the fact that there are no leaks coming from Montreal doesn't mean that this person from Philly won't leak their info. The result? Philly is in on Nash, the Habs... well... we don't know as we don't hear about it.

That's my take anyway and I find it quite refreshing.

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06-20-2012, 11:47 PM
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And Toronto and Carolina do?

Take a look at what star players have been traded for over the last decade or so... typically, the players going the other way are "stars" or really truly become elite players.
not my problem if those two teams still want to make those kinds of trades. our three stars fill the right positions and trading any one of those guys would create holes in our lineup that can't easily be filled (ex. a deal involving subban for staal), or they'd be marginal upgrades to our current players at best (ex. pacioretty for ryan/nash).

and trading for staal is lunacy unless he is signed before-hand.

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We have to resign Subban and Price so we can't sign any of these big names.

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Maybe Gauthier was the source of all Habs rumours in the past 5 years?
Maybe Gauthier kicked Markov in the knee, gouged koivus eye and gave gainey a secret lobotomy!

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Let's build from the draft and not trade valuable assets for overpaid players for once.

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We have to resign Subban and Price so we can't sign any of these big names.
Exactly. We don't have the cap room or the assets to get any of the big names via trade. That being said I hope our GM thinks outside the box and is aggressive when he needs to be.

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Maybe Gauthier was the source of all Habs rumours in the past 5 years?
There. There's your answer. Now stop this all you youngsters with your rumour mongering crappity crap

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Exactly. We don't have the cap room or the assets to get any of the big names via trade. That being said I hope our GM thinks outside the box and is aggressive when he needs to be.
Cap room won't be an issue. Gomez is finished.There will be lots of space. The issue is that no big ufa will sign with the Habs. Also the ufa pool is weak. I still expect a trade. We need a top 6 winger. To repeat lots of Space. Gomez will be gone. It's assenine to think thr Habs will waste 7.5 cap space on him. I wouldn't even doubt if kaberle is gone

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wow, this thread amazes me, some people are just looking for stuff to complain about/be nervous about

but silly me for underestimating our fanbase . . .

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We do not need players like Nash. Look what a guy like Erik Cole did on a losing team. He elevated himself into a 30 goal scorer while Nash just withered and died when he was in Columbus last season. We do not need that BS while we're in our short rebuild.

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Columbus is rumoured to want 3-5 assets in a deal for Nash and wants a gross overpayment to deal him, otherwise he would've been a Ranger. More than likely Anaheim wants a few good pieces for Ryan as well and neither of them are known winners. I just don't see the Habs becoming an instant contender by dealing good roster players and prospects just to land a big name. I'd rather see Bergevin make a play on Parise and some of the other decent UFA's (even though the crop is fairly small) to try and improve this team for the long term. There's no point in mortgaging the future to make this team slightly better next year.

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I was just wondering, with this new regime all about communication (I mean the Habs GM was on the TSN mock draft show for crying out loud), if anyone else was bothered by the fact that the Habs are not being mentioned in any of the big chases for players, such as Nash, Staal, Ryan etc.?

I just found it odd.

Btw, my comment is based on mention by legitimate sources.
I am just expecting a fairly quiet draft. Doubt be any major moves. By the Habs I mean.

All these new front office personnel they don't know the team deep enough yet. Maybe add a second tier UFA

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I think it's a really good sign that there has been so much openness from the organization yet the business decision side has been kept so quiet from the public. Trades, drafting, contracts etc, should be dealt with behind closed doors. Leaks and rumors are very rarely a good thing.

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