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The Official Offseason Thread (Part VII) - "GIVE US BOOBY RYAN!"

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We want teh Booby Ryans!q1111




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Nash clearly is the better player. Unfortunately when you take age and cap-hit into consideration, the value gap narrows considerably.
And that is what is scary about Nash and why he'll probably bring less of a package (or he SHOULD bring less of one) than Ryan.

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Someone wanted the new thread title, starting the new thread 16 posts before the old one reached 1,000

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Someone wanted the new thread title, starting the new thread 16 posts before the old one reached 1,000
Man, I started the Booby Ryan meme on this board ages ago!

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I think I'd rather want Nash than Ryan. Will probably get flamed for this, though.

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I think I'd rather want Nash than Ryan. Will probably get flamed for this, though.
If all things were equal, give me Nash any day.

If we can trade less prospects and get a guy with less of a cap hit who is a small step below Nash? Well, that's the move you make. I remain unconvinced that Booby will be cheaper, though.

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Rick Nash is absolutely a better player than Bobby Ryan. I think the distinction is cap hits and contract terms.

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We can just get our own Booby at this gift shop.

Could probably get one without Stepan!

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Ryan
Rights to talk to Schultz first

for

Dubinsky
Del Zotto
Thomas
1st round
conditional pick if we sign Schultz

Would be ridiculous. Dubi can come in on the 2nd line LW for the Ducks, Del Zotto gives them a solid young Dman, Thomas is a good prospect and this yrs first

Lets do this

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Anyone who proposes MDZ as the defenseman to go for Ryan needs to explain why the Ducks would want more of what they already have. They need defense on the blueline. Offense they already have. And yes, with this current Rangers team, I would rather trade staal or girardi than stepan.

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If top management's thoughts echo this thread I am left with the following conclusion:

The Rangers have quite a bit of young talent which for the time being will keep them from making any major move in this off season. Fear of losing a young future star will paralyze the front office into making some cosmetic changes. It is unlikely that the top FA's will not be sought by other teams who will be more aggressive (compared to the Rangers) in their offers.

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That's the thing. I think when it comes down to it, Nash could be had for the lesser price. But his contract is obviously a price of it's own. Ryan; younger, better contract and steeper price because of it. Hard choice.

I think Nash gives us a better chance to win sooner rather than later. But it could cost us a lot in the future.

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And that is what is scary about Nash and why he'll probably bring less of a package (or he SHOULD bring less of one) than Ryan.
He should, but I think he'll end up getting the better package. Ryan is a great player, but he's never topped 35 goals and has one 70+ point season to his credit. I don't think the return will be as huge as many folks seem to think (or are willing to pay on this board.. yikes).

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Anyone who proposes MDZ as the defenseman to go for Ryan needs to explain why the Ducks would want more of what they already have. They need defense on the blueline. Offense they already have. And yes, with this current Rangers team, I would rather trade staal or girardi than stepan.
I would love to do a deal centered around Girardi, Dubinsky and a prospect for Ryan and something small.

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Please, for the love of God, get me Bobby Ryan!

Dubinsky, MDZ (with Schultz hopefully in the fold), High End Prospect (not Kreider), 1st.

I would break the bank on this guy.

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I would love to do a deal centered around Girardi, Dubinsky and a prospect for Ryan and something small.
Opposing left wingers would have a field day.

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Let me give you a more likely call for Ryan -- Hagelin, Anisimov and a 1st. And maybe another more marginal pick or part. The Rangers aren't trading Stepan or Del Zotto. I wouldn't trade Stepan even up for Ryan. The Ducks don't want salary so they are not taking back Dubinsky. They don't need Del Zotto and he isn't available anyway. To me, Hagelin is the player that may get either of these deals done and given Kreider's emergence, I can see him being moved.

Some of these proposals for Ryan are just ridiculous. The guy ain't Gordie Howe.

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I would love to do a deal centered around Girardi, Dubinsky and a prospect for Ryan and something small.
If you listen closely, you'll hear the Rangers team chemistry destructing in the distance.

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Let me give you a more likely call for Ryan -- Hagelin, Anisimov and a 1st. And maybe another more marginal pick or part. The Rangers aren't trading Stepan or Del Zotto. I wouldn't trade Stepan even up for Ryan. The Ducks don't want salary so they are not taking back Dubinsky. They don't need Del Zotto and he isn't available anyway. To me, Hagelin is the player that may get either of these deals done and given Kreider's emergence, I can see him being moved.

Some of these proposals for Ryan are just ridiculous. The guy ain't Gordie Howe.
Thank you. This Dubinsky, Stepan, Miller and a first stuff is nonsense.

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Opposing left wingers would have a field day.
Defense isn't important.

I'm usually in line with the veteran posters but anything including sraal, girardi or mcd is lunacy. You couldn't replace any, for their contracts, without decimating the team. Look at the returns on burns and pronger. Getting a forward, considering the drama surrounding our targets, will be feasible w/o our big 3 included.

And again, the team wants depth on d, not less.

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Let me give you a more likely call for Ryan -- Hagelin, Anisimov and a 1st. And maybe another more marginal pick or part. The Rangers aren't trading Stepan or Del Zotto. I wouldn't trade Stepan even up for Ryan. The Ducks don't want salary so they are not taking back Dubinsky. They don't need Del Zotto and he isn't available anyway. To me, Hagelin is the player that may get either of these deals done and given Kreider's emergence, I can see him being moved.

Some of these proposals for Ryan are just ridiculous. The guy ain't Gordie Howe.
These guys are acting like Ryan is Mike Bossy or Jari Kurri. The Rangers are "reportedly" dangling Dubinsky around the NHL. They make a soft deal and use those cheap assets in another deal.

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I can't imagine NYR could possibly offer the best deal for Anaheim. And if they did, I'd probably vomit at the sight of it.

I'd rather roll out the exact same squad we finished the playoffs with then trade Stepan+++ for Bobby Ryan.

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Agree heavily with RB and bobbop.

Ryan is very solid, but is inconsistent. Big, rangy, scoring winger. Great fit on paper, but his streaks drive coaches mad. There will be no Stepan/Miller + package for Ryan. Even though Hagelin is my favorite player, I like the deal bobbop proposed.

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Les Sénateurs ont discuté de la possibilité de faire l'acquisition de Rick Nash. Il semble que cette transaction ne se produira pas.
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Sens had discussions about Rick Nash. Seems like that trade won't happen, Bryan Murray told me.
So scratch another team.

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Wow, Ottawa got in "the race" about 6 hours ago and are already out.

Howson probably asked for Karlsson and Spezza.

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