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06-19-2012, 08:55 PM
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Signing Parise to a caphit of 7.5M+..?


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Although not on Parise's level, Semin is actually solid on the PK.



Defense isn't Semin's issue. Even with how much Kovy has improved his two way game, it is not on Semin's level. His passion and effort need to meet expectations though.
If there is an organization that can instill effort into someone, I think it's this one.

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If you sign Semin in place of Parise you are upgrading the offense but also undeniably downgrading the PK.

I realize this is all just hypothetical.

His agent does live in NJ. I'm sure he has nice things to say about it.
We rolled with 6 plus guys who can be on the PK

Zajac / Yayo / Henrique / Zubie / Patty / Kovy / Carter / Gio / Poni all played the PK last year

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If there is an organization that can instill effort into someone, I think it's this one.
Which is why im preaching Semin to sign here if and only if Parise leaves

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If there is an organization that can instill effort into someone, I think it's this one.
Yup, I completely agree. that's why I wouldn't be concerned if we did sign Semin.

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We rolled with 6 plus guys who can be on the PK

Zajac / Yayo / Henrique / Zubie / Patty / Kovy / Carter / Gio / Poni all played the PK last year
Yes, but losing Parise does not just mean losing a penalty killer. It means losing arguably your best penalty killer.

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Yes, but losing Parise does not just mean losing a penalty killer. It means losing arguably your best penalty killer.
Without a doubt, but again we have many guys who can step up into the role and do fine.

Also im sure we can find a PK Specialist 3/4th Liner in FA

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So outside of Semin, what's the contingency plan if Zach does bolt? Another forward? New captain? Where does the extra money get placed on a very thin UFA market?

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So outside of Semin, what's the contingency plan if Zach does bolt? Another forward? New captain? Where does the extra money get placed on a very thin UFA market?
None really

TSN Said we might get Radulov, but Noooooooo Thanks. I love Russians, but he isnt one of them.
C Will be Kovy
Money prob towards a replacement forward and maybe a top 4 Dman

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398726

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So outside of Semin, what's the contingency plan if Zach does bolt? Another forward? New captain? Where does the extra money get placed on a very thin UFA market?
IMO either sign Semin or make a bigger offer to Suter.

I would rather sign Suter.

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I would love to see the Devils trade Parise's rights (not going to happen tho) and then watch Semin come to the Devils for ~6mil deal.

Now for who will replace Parise? I think Henrique does that and was far more a clutch playoff performer.

I don't want to see Parise locked in for a million years with a high cap hit as while I love him and think he's great he can't score from outside of the circles. It reminds me more of Gionta when he scored 48 goals - I was happy the Devils didn't overpay to resign him and I'll be happy not to see them overpay for Zach.

Kovy is going to be our new Captain and he'll lead the team and I will totally wet myself if that includes Semin and Radulov next year!

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Sounds like the end of Rocky IV
I was getting ready to post the clip too! Haha!

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Didn't Semin take consecutive 1 year deals for the last 2 seasons with Wash? I definitely believe that he could've gotten a long term deal with a "perennial loser" for much more money instead of staying with the Caps and trying to win a Cup with that core. Heck, he could've bolted to the KHL, made more money annually than any of his fellow Russians here, and become a rockstar back home. But, he's still here. That shows me that he wants to win in the best league in the world, just like Kovy.
Don't quote me, but I believe Semin was an RFA. Not a UFA. Therefore he probably had to sign with Washington. You don't see many RFA's trying to get bid on anymore.

As far as Parise for $8.5 million GTFO. That's what Malkin, and Crosby make. Let's be serious here. Parise is in the same class as Malkin, and Crosby?

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06-19-2012, 09:03 PM
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I would love to see the Devils trade Parise's rights (not going to happen tho) and then watch Semin come to the Devils for ~6mil deal.

Now for who will replace Parise? I think Henrique does that and was far more a clutch playoff performer.

I don't want to see Parise locked in for a million years with a high cap hit as while I love him and think he's great he can't score from outside of the circles. It reminds me more of Gionta when he scored 48 goals - I was happy the Devils didn't overpay to resign him and I'll be happy not to see them overpay for Zach.

Kovy is going to be our new Captain and he'll lead the team and I will totally wet myself if that includes Semin and Radulov next year!
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A cap hit of $8.5M is out of the question. There are three players in the entire NHL with cap hits that high. Is Parise even a top-10 forward?

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I was getting ready to post the clip too! Haha!


Don't quote me, but I believe Semin was an RFA. Not a UFA. Therefore he probably had to sign with Washington. You don't see many RFA's trying to get bid on anymore.

As far as Parise for $8.5 million GTFO. That's what Malkin, and Crosby make. Let's be serious here. Parise is in the same class as Malkin, and Crosby?
I've said my peace on that on the free agent board. Absolute insanity to give him that much. You'd have to be very very desperate.

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I've said my peace on that on the free agent board. Absolute insanity to give him that much. You'd have to be very very desperate.
Kind of like Minnesota. I really think this may be out of Lou's hands.

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I may not stop laughing for an entire year if the Wild gave him 9 mill per. Then I'd laugh even harder when he put up ~60pts because of their system and lack of talent to play with.

Wait, wait, I forgot, the prospects.

Parise-Granlund-Phillips. 100pts each.

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I will laugh at both parties if he signs with the Wild.

At Parise because he will be signing with a mediocre franchise.

At the Wild because they will have overpaid to get him.

If someone is going to pay Parise like a top-3 player, be my guest.

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So outside of Semin, what's the contingency plan if Zach does bolt? Another forward? New captain? Where does the extra money get placed on a very thin UFA market?
Semin or Suter. Hope that Henrique and Yayo can take the next step. Maybe Teddy will get another shot.

Kovy would be our captain. I am 100% sure (not claiming to have a source JDF style haha). Just sayin

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A cap hit of $8.5M is out of the question. There are three players in the entire NHL with cap hits that high. Is Parise even a top-10 forward?
Not IMO

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Kind of like Minnesota. I really think this may be out of Lou's hands.
This whole ownerships situation puts a dark cloud over everything for me. It sucks.

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I just don't see Parise demanding anything above 7.5M. He isn't greedy (at least he doesn't show it). I think he knows the limits. He isn't going to squeeze, squeeze, and squeeze every penny he can. His agent may do that. I assume his agent does the negotiations. I hope the agent doesn't **** anything up here.

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So outside of Semin, what's the contingency plan if Zach does bolt? Another forward? New captain? Where does the extra money get placed on a very thin UFA market?
i actually don't think radulov would be horrible, but there's the potential it could blow up in our face.

c would be one of kovy or patty. probably kovy.

extra money would hopefully go to suter but would probably just be sat on until next year

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What if the Devils acquired Ovechkin to replace Zach?

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Radulov=Do not want.



Semin or Suter. Hope that Henrique and Yayo can take the next step. Maybe Teddy will get another shot.

Kovy would be our captain. I am 100% sure (not claiming to have a source JDF style haha). Just sayin



Not IMO



This whole ownerships situation puts a dark cloud over everything for me. It sucks.
I think the ownership situation may remove temptation to compete with Minnesota's supposed gargantuan offer. It's a good thing.

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I would go as high as 7 per year for Parise. That is it. If he takes it, great, if not then we move on. Anything higher is absurd.

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I dont care how sexy a Kovy/Radulov/Semin trio would be, I don't want Radulov anywhere near this team.

We made so much progress with Kovy, due primarily to the great team atmosphere. What happens when he's separated from Zach and surrounded by motivation-less, lazy countrymen?

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