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06-20-2012, 11:30 AM
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Murray to the Habs ?

is there any chance he goes to the Habs ? Or is that just not on their radar at all ?? as in it's going to be a forward no matter what.

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06-20-2012, 11:32 AM
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You do realize that Habs management doesn't post on HF right?

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06-20-2012, 11:38 AM
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I was just curious about what other posters thoughts were, I never seem to see him taken by the Habs on any mocks or predictions. Was I not supposed to post this here ?

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I doubt they pass on Galchenyuk.

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06-20-2012, 11:43 AM
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is there any chance he goes to the Habs ? Or is that just not on their radar at all ?? as in it's going to be a forward no matter what.

99% sure MTL will go with a F...Alex galchenyuk followed by Forsberg then Grigorenko

The only way I see MTL taking a D with the first pick is if they move one of their young d-stars (Subban' Tinordi or Beaulieu) for another 2012 1sr round pick...

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I doubt it, but it could happen if Yakupov goes 1 and Forsberg goes 2.

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I hope they strongly consider it.

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06-20-2012, 12:19 PM
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If he's the BPA its possible. Although Management is probably looking at forwards (mainly center), it wouldn't be surprising if we do draft Murray and eventually make a trade for a forward using our defensive prospects.

For the love of God, I hope its not like the Gomez trade if that's the route we're taking.

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It might happen if Yakupov and Galchenyuk will go in the top 2. But I still think they'll chose either Teravainen or Forsberg in this case.

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06-20-2012, 12:29 PM
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If he's the next player on their list, then I don't see why they wouldn't draft him. As Bergevin stated on TSN last night, you never have enough d-men, they are always a hot commodity to have and then you deal from your strengths if necessary.


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06-20-2012, 01:07 PM
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If he's the next player on their list, then I don't see why they wouldn't draft him. As Bergevin stated on TSN last night, you never have enough d-men, they are always a hot commodity to have and then you deal from your strengths if necessary.
do they need a player this year? Murray is not ready to play in the NHL. If they are ok to wait one or two years then why not. If they need a forward NOW they will have to trade their pick to get a player that is NHL ready

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06-20-2012, 01:34 PM
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If he's the next player on their list, then I don't see why they wouldn't draft him. As Bergevin stated on TSN last night, you never have enough d-men, they are always a hot commodity to have and then you deal from your strengths if necessary.
Exactly. If their top 5 before the draft looks like:

1. Yak
2. Forsberg
3. Murray
4. Galy
5. Grig

on draft day, and Yak - Forsberg go 1-2, then they take Murray at 3, not Galchenyuk.

BPA, BPA always.

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06-20-2012, 01:45 PM
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do they need a player this year? Murray is not ready to play in the NHL. If they are ok to wait one or two years then why not. If they need a forward NOW they will have to trade their pick to get a player that is NHL ready
After Yak Murray is the most ready player, he's already played in the WC

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I generally see them taking a forward.

It really all depends how confident they feel in their young/prospect forwards.

Murray seems as close to can't miss as you're going to get in this draft and a Murray - Beaulieu pairing would be killer.

But, when you look at their center depth there is no one who screams "Top 6 Forward" and with their position in the draft they are in an excellent position to fill that need, which is much greater than their need for another D-man in my opinion.

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06-20-2012, 01:52 PM
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do they need a player this year? Murray is not ready to play in the NHL. If they are ok to wait one or two years then why not. If they need a forward NOW they will have to trade their pick to get a player that is NHL ready
Murray is definitely ready for the NHL. I don't think he has anything left to prove in junior. He played in the World Championships this year and didn't look out of place.

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I will be both surprised and disappointed if we don't take one of Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, or Forsberg.

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Exactly. If their top 5 before the draft looks like:

1. Yak
2. Forsberg
3. Murray
4. Galy
5. Grig

on draft day, and Yak - Forsberg go 1-2, then they take Murray at 3, not Galchenyuk.

BPA, BPA always.
I don't agree with the bolded. BPA is important but when you're a bottom-ranked team (from the last year, anyway) you obviously have needs to address. We're a team that has a good future on D and even though it would be good to add another blue-chip prospect on the back end, a forward who could be a difference maker right away is something we really need and it outweighs the BPA mentality, especially when the "best player" is debateable. I'm not sure Murray is better than Galchenyuk.

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06-20-2012, 01:58 PM
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I don't agree with the bolded. BPA is important but when you're a bottom-ranked team (from the last year, anyway) you obviously have needs to address. We're a team that has a good future on D and even though it would be good to add another blue-chip prospect on the back end, a forward who could be a difference maker right away is something we really need and it outweighs the BPA mentality, especially when the "best player" is debateable. I'm not sure Murray is better than Galchenyuk.

Everybody is assuming that the Habs really like Galy, Forsberg, even Grigs. What if they really only like one out of the three and he's picked at #2? What if they don't like Galys' injury concerns? What if they feel that Murray is going to be just as good as Pietrangelo? What if they feel that Forsberg is 4 years away from being an impact player?

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I hope not. Montreal needs a #1 centre, which is exactly what Galchenyuk projects to be. We've drafted enough defensemen in recent years, with Beaulieu and Tinordi topping the list.

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He certainly fits the bill of what Montreal typically looks for in a first rounder (skating, smarts and character). I wouldn't be shocked if we did draft him, though I wouldn't really be thrilled either. In a different year with a different prospect pool I'd be all over Murray but I just don't feel like he's what we need now with at least one potentially elite forward guaranteed to be on the board at #3.

But of course, we did draft Price when goalies were the last thing we needed, so it wouldn't be uncharacteristic. And that move turned out okay.

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do they need a player this year? Murray is not ready to play in the NHL. If they are ok to wait one or two years then why not. If they need a forward NOW they will have to trade their pick to get a player that is NHL ready

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Never thought about it, but if he could step in right away, he would be a fantastic stabilizer for PK Subban. IMO I think it would be a smart pick if he fell to them.

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ITT: Montreal has enough defense and needs a center. No way in hell they pick Murray.

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I think they should go with either forsberg or Galchenyuk cuz it looks like they have a greater need for centermen and they already have subban

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do they need a player this year? Murray is not ready to play in the NHL. If they are ok to wait one or two years then why not. If they need a forward NOW they will have to trade their pick to get a player that is NHL ready
You want Pierre Gauthier to read this? He is not their GM anymore.

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