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06-20-2012, 01:54 PM
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@TEAM1040: Gillis on Jensen: It's his decision to do that (Sweden).We think he has a chance to be a bigtime player. Really pleased with his development

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06-20-2012, 01:56 PM
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Why can you not play in the AHL until you're 20, but you can play in the NHL as a teenager?
same reason you can't play in the NBA until you're 19.

the NCAA/CHL develop players for the pros for free. the pro leagues create these seemingly arbitrary rules to protect the economic life of those developmental leagues.

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06-20-2012, 01:57 PM
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The Canucks need to let some of their younger players onto this squad. They just don't ever have young players contributing on a regular basis. I would love to see Jensen compete and win a spot on the team, but then I just know AV would ruin him.

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CHL/NHL have an agreement that NHL teams can't send players to the AHL until they are 20.

You keep a lot more talent in the CHL that way, which is better for them as a business

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same reason you can't play in the NBA until you're 19.

the NCAA/CHL develop players for the pros for free. the pro leagues create these seemingly arbitrary rules to protect the economic life of those developmental leagues.
To be fair the NCAA make a *TON* of money of their basketball/football programs (while the "students" make squat).

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06-20-2012, 02:01 PM
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To be fair the NCAA make a *TON* of money of their basketball/football programs (while the "students" make squat).
no question, collegiate athletics is a complete scam. but the NBA has been a huge supporter of those draconian rules about student-athlete (non-)compensation because the NCAA continuing to operate in the way it does is good for the NBA too.

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06-20-2012, 02:08 PM
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Rodin played for Brynas, right? that teams' management picks huuuge favorites, As long as Nicklas goes to a good organization, he'll be fine.
Rodin also went through the Brynas system so he was in a different situation than Jensen. Based on these quotes Jensen is negotiating with a few teams, so I think he can pretty easily gauge whether he would be an important part of the team or stuck on the 3rd/4th line for depth.

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I would think that two of the 3-4 teams that he is negotiating with are Rögle and Frölunda because of their proximity to Denmark. And they are not bad development clubs. From the looks of their rosters, Frölunda doesn't seem to have a many good offensive wingers, which should make it easier for Jensen to get a regular spot in the top 6, and they only have 7 wingers under contract at the moment. While Rögle just promoted, so I would guess that their roster is rather weak compared to the average SEL club, they have more wingers under contract than Frölunda, but a few are young and not as good as Jensen.

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Why can you not play in the AHL until you're 20, but you can play in the NHL as a teenager?
Which confuses me because he played 8 AHL games last year.

Anyhow, I'm happy with the decision. I have a feeling he might even make the big team this year.

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Which confuses me because he played 8 AHL games last year.

Anyhow, I'm happy with the decision. I have a feeling he might even make the big team this year.
He could join the Wolves because his OHL team didn't play in the playoffs, or they were eliminated.

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He could join the Wolves because his OHL team didn't play in the playoffs, or they were eliminated.
OK, thanks for the clear-up.

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Why can you not play in the AHL until you're 20, but you can play in the NHL as a teenager?
AHL + OHL agreement as part of the current CBA. Otherwise the OHL will not have any star prospects 'cause any decent prospects drafted would just head straight to the AHL if they don't make the NHL team.

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To be fair the NCAA make a *TON* of money of their basketball/football programs (while the "students" make squat).
And tuition is sky high. What a crooked system that is. In so many ways.

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His right to, doesn't make me worry though. SEL is a fine league, and if he doesn't make the Canucks, he's back in the OHL anyway. Sucks for Generals I guess (that is his OHL team, right?).

It's not like we lose him either way.

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Well i would argue that it is not only for Jensen to decide, but also Canucks. Sure he might do a great job in camp and land at spot on the NHL roster.

But what rolle and with what minutes? Then the management will have to make a decision. Is this a guy we want to have having around right now, and then use him in spots here and there and maybe even occational bench him ... or will they let him play big minutes in Sweden and prepare him to be a top6 forward @ the canucks.

Personally no matter how good he is, i just cant see Jensen playing top6 minutes at Vancouver for a full season... i could see him do that in Sweden.

From a Denmark point of view, send him to Sweden, then we can use him in the Olympic Qualifications tournement in febraury. Denmark deserves a spot at the olympics.

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I would think that two of the 3-4 teams that he is negotiating with are Rögle and Frölunda because of their proximity to Denmark. And they are not bad development clubs. From the looks of their rosters, Frölunda doesn't seem to have a many good offensive wingers, which should make it easier for Jensen to get a regular spot in the top 6, and they only have 7 wingers under contract at the moment. While Rögle just promoted, so I would guess that their roster is rather weak compared to the average SEL club, they have more wingers under contract than Frölunda, but a few are young and not as good as Jensen.
Good call, I'll say Modo is definitively in on him as well.

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I'm happy with this. Last I heard he was only getting 2nd line minutes in Oshawa.

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Rift jk good choice by Jensen

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Agree on all counts. Shrewd move from Jensen and his agent, actually - a workaround of the CHL's (rather silly) rule about under-20s not being allowed to play in the AHL.
I completely agree.

I find it odd that U-20s can play in the NHL, but not in the AHL.

The SEL would be great for his development because h would be playing against men. I think he's already proven what he can do in Major Junior.

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I'm still hoping he makes the team. Might struggle initially but after a full season, could be a solid top 9 contributor.

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if Gillis has it on his agenda to set up some of these "agreements" with teams in Europe for his prospects he believes should turn pro but CHL rules prevent them from doing so.

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To be fair the NCAA make a *TON* of money of their basketball/football programs (while the "students" make squat).
Yes, and Junior Hockey owners make a boatload of cash while giving their players a $40 per week allowance while they could be getting an education worth six figures at a top University.

Ron Toigo made a killing off players like Gilbert Brule when the Coliseum was full every night.

Junior Hockey teams are owned by millionaires but the players would make more with a Summer painting business.

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The Canucks need to let some of their younger players onto this squad. They just don't ever have young players contributing on a regular basis. I would love to see Jensen compete and win a spot on the team, but then I just know AV would ruin him.
Are you kidding me?

AV has made a player out of Edler, Hansen, and many others who have had carere seasons under him. AV also developd a lot of players, and guys like Martin Gelinas have publicly given him credit for his development of them in Junior.

I guess some fans are still upse he didn't put the "C" on the rich kid who changed agents every season.

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if Gillis has it on his agenda to set up some of these "agreements" with teams in Europe for his prospects he believes should turn pro but CHL rules prevent them from doing so.
Exactly. With Grenier going to Europe as well, it's clear that Gillis' strategy is to actively use European leagues to develop prospects. Very smart move.

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Exactly. With Grenier going to Europe as well, it's clear that Gillis' strategy is to actively use European leagues to develop prospects. Very smart move.
Very ingenious if you asked me. Not only is it getting crowded on the Wolves roster anyway with Friesen, Matson, Corrado, and Cannata all graduating from college or juniors, the ECHL is probably the last place you would want to be as a blue chip prospect. It doesn't hurt that he's of European decent from his moms side.

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