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07-23-2012, 04:16 PM
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Makes me optimistic that we can trade Jeff Schultz.

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You know what GM has made even more high risk trades in the past year than Paul Holmgren? Scott Howson.


It's amusing to watch the pendulum swing. A couple years back is was Shero everyone wanted McPhee to be like. Now it's Holmgren and Sather.

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Unless this GM has something big planned, I wish he had picked up AK rather than frikken Wolski to play on the second line. I can't stomach to watch the regular season with a line of Laich or Wolski expected to be our secondary scoring threat. I mean, McPhee, give us a break here. More bargain basement crap when we need to finally get somewhere in the playoffs.

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You know what GM has made even more high risk trades in the past year than Paul Holmgren? Scott Howson.


It's amusing to watch the pendulum swing. A couple years back is was Shero everyone wanted McPhee to be like. Now it's Holmgren and Sather.
Eh actually no, I'd be fine with Shero, thank you very much

Sign some quality free agents (who can be traded for assets even when it doesn't work out), trade core players for a great return when you can't re-sign them in advance.. yeah, I'll take that.

Holmgren.. he's made good trades, but that one Bryzgalov contract just shows that he's not an especially great judge of talent/risk.

Sather.. he's drafted well, but since he's also the guy that signed Gomez and Drury back in the day.. he can make five more good trades, and I'll still feel that he's one trade away from screwing up everything for good.

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07-23-2012, 04:41 PM
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You know what GM has made even more high risk trades in the past year than Paul Holmgren? Scott Howson.


It's amusing to watch the pendulum swing. A couple years back is was Shero everyone wanted McPhee to be like. Now it's Holmgren and Sather.
Everyone? Some of us wanted GMGM fired long ago.

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sadly mcphee gave laich 2line money and thats what we are going to see the first couple of games but he is going to find out soon that he should have kept semin instead of laich.

a big problem we have right now is that ribs will have to play with grinders. wolski is garbage and done, mojos 2way game is to weak for 2line. leftovers are laich, brouwer, ward.

mcphee decides to play full defense with an offensive juggernaut

next year he releases offensive players, signs grinders and wants to play offense again...

my prediction, average 6-8 spot, the usual post season result.

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07-23-2012, 05:56 PM
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I can't believe how overrated Nash is being.

They got 2 average to good roster players, a guy projected to be a good roster player, and a 1st that could end up being a good roster player. By the time Columbus can be compete, Nash would be over the hill. Not mention his contract.

Good deal for both teams.

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07-23-2012, 06:14 PM
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sadly mcphee gave laich 2line money and thats what we are going to see the first couple of games but he is going to find out soon that he should have kept semin instead of laich.

a big problem we have right now is that ribs will have to play with grinders. wolski is garbage and done, mojos 2way game is to weak for 2line. leftovers are laich, brouwer, ward.

mcphee decides to play full defense with an offensive juggernaut

next year he releases offensive players, signs grinders and wants to play offense again...

my prediction, average 6-8 spot, the usual post season result.
The usual result as in once in the last 5 seasons? You people are too quick to forget...

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07-23-2012, 07:18 PM
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I also think Nash is overrated, he cant carry a team by him self, but with a good center and another dynamic player on his line - his numbers will go up this season, not saying NY hosed Columbus, because who knows what that 1st will bring, just seem like Rangers improved their top six and Columbus has really nobody above average... strange... Columbus's GM isn't good at what he does.

P.S. Atlantic seems to have nuclear arms race on their hands, we'll need another scorer. Semin should stay or they will have to make a move for Doan.


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07-23-2012, 07:36 PM
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I can't believe how overrated Nash is being.

They got 2 average to good roster players, a guy projected to be a good roster player, and a 1st that could end up being a good roster player. By the time Columbus can be compete, Nash would be over the hill. Not mention his contract.

Good deal for both teams.
I know that I take a ton of heat for having 2 teams that I follow closely (the Wings, of course, is the other)... but as a result, you tend to watch things quite a bit more closely.

You might want to actually take a better look @ the CBJ.

Yeah, they gave up Nash, but look at some of the players they've amassed:


F:

Brandon Dubinsky, Artem Anisimov, R.J. Umberger, Derrick Brassard, Vinny Prospal, Mark Letestu, and Nick Foligno.

D:

Jack Johnson, James Wisniewski, Fedor Tyutin, Adrian Aucoin, and Nikita Nikitin.

G:

Steve Mason, and Sergei Bobrovsky.

I'm sorry, but you look at the CBJ, and then look at the Caps, and I'm liking the CBJ's chances a whole lot more than ours. Their D is unquestionably better than ours.

Now, IMHO, Backstrom is a better forward than anyone on their roster, but they have some pretty good balance there.

PLUS: they've amassed a ton of picks.

Gotta like their future.

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07-23-2012, 07:42 PM
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I know that I take a ton of heat for having 2 teams that I follow closely (the Wings, of course, is the other)... but as a result, you tend to watch things quite a bit more closely.

You might want to actually take a better look @ the CBJ.

Yeah, they gave up Nash, but look at some of the players they've amassed:


F:

Brandon Dubinsky, Artem Anisimov, R.J. Umberger, Derrick Brassard, Vinny Prospal, Mark Letestu, and Nick Foligno.

D:

Jack Johnson, James Wisniewski, Fedor Tyutin, Adrian Aucoin, and Nikita Nikitin.

G:

Steve Mason, and Sergei Bobrovsky.

I'm sorry, but you look at the CBJ, and then look at the Caps, and I'm liking the CBJ's chances a whole lot more than ours. Their D is unquestionably better than ours.

Now, IMHO, Backstrom is a better forward than anyone on their roster, but they have some pretty good balance there.

PLUS: they've amassed a ton of picks.

Gotta like their future.
What the ****?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I can't believe I just read that.

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07-23-2012, 07:43 PM
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CBJ's D is unquestionably better than our? Pass me what your smoking.

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I know that I take a ton of heat for having 2 teams that I follow closely (the Wings, of course, is the other)... but as a result, you tend to watch things quite a bit more closely.

You might want to actually take a better look @ the CBJ.

Yeah, they gave up Nash, but look at some of the players they've amassed:


F:

Brandon Dubinsky, Artem Anisimov, R.J. Umberger, Derrick Brassard, Vinny Prospal, Mark Letestu, and Nick Foligno.

D:

Jack Johnson, James Wisniewski, Fedor Tyutin, Adrian Aucoin, and Nikita Nikitin.

G:

Steve Mason, and Sergei Bobrovsky.

I'm sorry, but you look at the CBJ, and then look at the Caps, and I'm liking the CBJ's chances a whole lot more than ours. Their D is unquestionably better than ours.

Now, IMHO, Backstrom is a better forward than anyone on their roster, but they have some pretty good balance there.

PLUS: they've amassed a ton of picks.

Gotta like their future.
Thats nothing to be really proud of... 8 Laich's would beat them

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What 2 Dmen do the Caps have that compare with Johnson and Wisniewski?

Green, once, but not for some time.

Who?

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What 2 Dmen do the Caps have that compare with Johnson and Wisniewski?

Green, once, but not for some time.

Who?
I would much rather have Alzner and Carlson.

The fact you said you would rather have the Blue Jackets roster than ours pretty much ruins any credibility you had.

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Alzner... Carlson...

Wiz is not a very good defenseman, either.

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its funny how grossly under ratted the caps are on this board

really.... CBJ roster better then ours? please learn something about hockey before posting

thanks

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its funny how grossly under ratted the caps are on this board
this team is hated by much of this board. hated.

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If only there was a Nash level offensive winger we could add to our team without giving up any assets.

Nah, that would be too logical. Laich-Ribeiro-Wolski FTW!

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WTF-That C-bus roster is awful.

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What 2 Dmen do the Caps have that compare with Johnson and Wisniewski?

Green, once, but not for some time.

Who?

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There's not a GM in the league that would take Johnson-Wisniewski over Alzner-Carlson.

Is this really a question? Seriously?

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There's not a GM in the league that would take Johnson-Wisniewski over Alzner-Carlson.

Is this really a question? Seriously?
I probably don't take them over Hamrlik-Green either; and I think Hamrlik-Green sucks.

Expect nothing less from the Detroit troll.

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You might want to actually take a better look @ the CBJ.
Yeah, they gave up Nash, but look at some of the players they've amassed:

F:
Brandon Dubinsky, Artem Anisimov, R.J. Umberger, Derrick Brassard, Vinny Prospal, Mark Letestu, and Nick Foligno.

D:
Jack Johnson, James Wisniewski, Fedor Tyutin, Adrian Aucoin, and Nikita Nikitin.

G:
Steve Mason, and Sergei Bobrovsky.

I'm sorry, but you look at the CBJ, and then look at the Caps, and I'm liking the CBJ's chances a whole lot more than ours. Their D is unquestionably better than ours.
Now, IMHO, Backstrom is a better forward than anyone on their roster, but they have some pretty good balance there.
PLUS: they've amassed a ton of picks. Gotta like their future.
Actually this roster has no future at all.
Their group of forwards would look good behind a good 1st line - the thing that doesn't exist in Columbus. Players who will have to play on their 1st line would be very good 3rd liners on good teams. They are also not that young to think that they've not fully developed.
The defense is a bit better, but nothing to salivate at even with adding Erixon, and sure as hell not better than the Caps.
The goaltenders are is two inconsistent young players with history of fails.

Ovechkin, Backstrom, Semin and probably Ribeiro are all better than any of the CBJ forwards. Carlson, Alzner and Green all are at the same level as Johnson. At least. Goalies are always hard to predict, but compare Holtby and Neuvirth to Bob and SMason...

Jackets now remind of Atlanta after Kovy trade: many OK players, but no talent to hope for a lot. Mediocre.

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