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06-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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How are we comparing a all around defensmen to a scoring forward?
I'm just making a point. One we need the other is luxury

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I like Yandle as a player a lot, but I don't really understand the interest unless:

1. It is a smokescreen to indicate to Howson that we've 100% moved on.
2. MDZ/Staal are on their way out, in Staal's case potentially for Ryan.

As good as he is, tying up another $5M+ in a LH defenseman is kinda hard to believe.

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06-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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Interesting Ryan has that same cap hit but scores 30+ and he's not worth the assets but yandle is? :shrugs:
both are probably worth the assets. yandle brings us something we aren't even close to having though, del zotto may never be as good as yandle is right now.

building from the net out has always been this teams strategy, and if you have the opportunity to add a dman who will be the best on your team for a fair price you do it and dont think twice. if we have an embarrassment of riches on d, we move the odd man out.

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06-22-2012, 02:24 PM
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Maybe we're looking to add defensmen because we're willing to trade one?

Just speculation.

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06-22-2012, 02:25 PM
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Interesting Ryan has that same cap hit but scores 30+ and he's not worth the assets but yandle is? :shrugs:
It all depends on what the asking price is on both players.

Stepan + Anisimov + for Ryan?

Dubinsky + for Yandle?

Or are they similar packages? If they are similar I think we all agree we should sway towards Ryan, but I am not sure that is the case.

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06-22-2012, 02:25 PM
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Why are we trading assets to get a top 4 d when we already have 4? And his cap hit don't help us getting offense
A 3way deal? Unless Slats is POSITIVE he is going to sign Schultz and deal away MDZ. I mean this doesn't make any sense. We need 2 forwards and 1 d man. The d man we grab can not lock us up financially from grabbing big time forwards.

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dubinsky + anisimov + pick/prospect for yandle

staal + prospect/picks for top forward

team gets insanely better

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06-22-2012, 02:26 PM
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I like Yandle as a player a lot, but I don't really understand the interest unless:

1. It is a smokescreen to indicate to Howson that we've 100% moved on.
2. MDZ/Staal are on their way out, in Staal's case potentially for Ryan.

As good as he is, tying up another $5M+ in a LH defenseman is kinda hard to believe.
EXACTLY! It makes zero sense from a strategy POV.

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06-22-2012, 02:26 PM
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Why would the Rangers get another Dman?

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06-22-2012, 02:27 PM
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NO to Yandle! His cap hit would hurt us from grabbing a big time forward.
What "big time forward"? Howson wants the late-80's Oilers in return, Parise's gonna cost a fortune even without getting Yandle, E. Kane's not happening, no Radulov, everyone hates Semin, and you're bidding against everyone and their grandmother for Ryan (if he's even getting traded).

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06-22-2012, 02:27 PM
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dubinsky + anisimov + pick/prospect for yandle

staal + prospect/picks for top forward

team gets insanely better
Its quite frankly getting annoying seeing staal's name in every proposal...he is not being traded.

Yandle doesnt make sense

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06-22-2012, 02:28 PM
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dubinsky + anisimov + pick/prospect for yandle

staal + prospect/picks for top forward

team gets insanely better

Until they cant re-sign hags/MDZ and Girardi/McD and Kreider

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dubinsky + anisimov + pick/prospect for yandle

staal + prospect/picks for top forward

team gets insanely better
i cant picture Sather dealing Staal unless its for allstar talent....not someone like Ryan who id love the Rangers to get...Ryan i believe can be dealt if Stepan was part of the deal.

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06-22-2012, 02:30 PM
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Where did Dreger say this? Not on his twitter

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06-22-2012, 02:31 PM
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Until they cant re-sign hags/MDZ and Girardi/McD and Kreider
Except in two years when they're contracts are up, Gaborik is off the books. I trust Gorton/Sather's cap management over what is being talked about here.

If we acquire Yandle, that makes one of DZ/Staal available, maybe we even flip Yandle for a scorer. It's never a bad thing to have too much talent.

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Yandle deal still isn't making sense to me.

But the club can't even Yandle me right now.

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if im picking between moving mcdonagh mdz or staal im always picking staal. we need to be more mobile from the blue line and his value is high, hes the kind of player that actually would return us bobby ryan.

yandle is a much better defenseman than staal. if we are replacing staal with yandle and moving staal for a top end forward we are a much better team.

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Didn't we say the flyers were dumb to try to trade for Nash? We would be doing same thing giving up assets for yandle

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Maybe we're looking to add defensmen because we're willing to trade one?

Just speculation.
This most likely is the case if the rumors on Sather being in on Yandle are true.

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06-22-2012, 02:32 PM
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If Yandle isn't used to play on the right side, what's the point? Is Sather planning to ship Staal to Anaheim?

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06-22-2012, 02:32 PM
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The other question is, what is Del Zotto asking for in terms for his contract? 3+ million? Maybe Sather doesn't think he is worth that and has decided to move him?

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The other question is, what is Del Zotto asking for in terms for his contract? 3+ million? Maybe Sather doesn't think he is worth that and has decided to move him?
could also be the case. there hasnt been much info leaked as to their contract talks

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06-22-2012, 02:34 PM
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Torts said he wanted to add d not subtract it and dubi + is not getting yandle

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06-22-2012, 02:34 PM
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Where did Dreger say this? Not on his twitter
Yeah, I'd like to know this too

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Except in two years when they're contracts are up, Gaborik is off the books. I trust Gorton/Sather's cap management over what is being talked about here.

If we acquire Yandle, that makes one of DZ/Staal available, maybe we even flip Yandle for a scorer. It's never a bad thing to have too much talent.
Problem is Kreider, McTruck, and Girardi will all command probably 5 mil a year at least. MDZ could command the same. MDZ and McTruck are how old and they were both top 5 in +/-.

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