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06-21-2012, 08:10 PM
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Dunno if this sort of deal is allowed but could CHI and NSH do a Hjammer for Suter's rights. deal, with conditional picks. going both way depending on whether or not he signs?
Why would Hawks move Hammer to Preds for a UFA's rights?

You move mid round picks at most for that

Also the Preds dont need Hjalmarsson

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I prefer Smid over Hjalmarsson, and he makes less money too.

That being said, I'd love to add him to our top 4.

Hjalmarsson, Smid, Whitney (hopefully healthy), and Petry starts to look pretty good.

Petry had a very good 2nd half and seemed to really develop well. In an ideal world, we would get a Hjalmarsson type and a guy like Justin Schultz, but that is probably wishful thinking.

Not sure what it would cost the Oilers though...

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Hope the Wild are in on Hammer is we miss on Suter/Carle.

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06-21-2012, 08:19 PM
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I modified my statement with regards to Olesz

But Huet was not an NHL caliber netminder when dumped ,, His pathetic display of goaltending on a stacked team was telling
Fair enough. I'm not saying Huet was great and that cap hit makes his contract one of the worst in the League but for ~1M or less, I'd think a few teams would have taken him as a veteran backup. Now, of course, probably not, for he hasn't played in the League for two years and is probably accustomed to playing overseas but you get what I'm saying.

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06-21-2012, 08:22 PM
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Why would Hawks move Hammer to Preds for a UFA's rights?

You move mid round picks at most for that

Also the Preds dont need Hjalmarsson
Basically

To NSH
Hammer
(pick if Suter signs with CHI)

To CHI
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(pick if Suter does not sign)

So if Suter doesn't sign with CHI we still get some value for Hammer, if he does NSH gets some extra for Suter.

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Niemi for Hjalmarsson

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06-21-2012, 08:28 PM
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Basically

To NSH
Hammer
(pick if Suter signs with CHI)

To CHI
Suter's Rights
(pick if Suter does not sign)

So if Suter doesn't sign with CHI we still get some value for Hammer, if he does NSH gets some extra for Suter.
SO a single (Non high pick) would be ok

Neither team does it

Why would Preds risk Suter signing with division rival ,, Why would Hawks risk giving the Preds a good dman for possibly nothing?

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06-21-2012, 08:29 PM
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Ribeiro and Fistric for Hjalmarsson and Frolik. Minor pieces for balance?

I'm sorry that Ribeiro is making 5mil/year.

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SO a single (Non high pick) would be ok

Neither team does it

Why would Preds risk Suter signing with division rival ,, Why would Hawks risk giving the Preds a good dman for possibly nothing?
Do the Hawks just need cap space for a pretty good prospect/pick and lesser roster player or what?

I'd have to assume Leddy, Oduya, Seabrook, and Keith are the top 4, so it could make sense to shed some money.

Oduya, Hjalmarsson, and Montador are pretty expensive for the guys in he 4-6 spots of the roster.

Or are the Hawks looking for an equal roster player to help offensively?

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06-21-2012, 08:34 PM
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2 years left on Montador's contract?

Has he been an effective 5-6 guy with some toughness ?

Habs are rumoured to be looking for a tougher d squad. If they can get rid of a soft Kaberle for a tougher overpaid guy, they might do it.

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Ribeiro and Fistric for Hjalmarsson and Frolik. Minor pieces for balance?

I'm sorry that Ribeiro is making 5mil/year.
Hawks take that and run

Fixes #2 C issue and provides a solid #6 dman

Stars wouldn't touch it sadly

Frolik makes some sense given there GM's history and there holes at LW ,, But him in any deal at this moment would be no real value

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Hawks take that and run

Fixes #2 C issue and provides a solid #6 dman

Stars wouldn't touch it sadly

Frolik makes some sense given there GM's history and there holes at LW ,, But him in any deal at this moment would be no real value
WEll then can we also have Pirri?

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WEll then can we also have Pirri?
Sure

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Hjalmarsson is still a very good defenseman, so matching the Sharks' offer sheet to me and probably most fellow Hawks fans was still a good move to this day. I can't knock that. However, I can't knock the Blackhawks for wanting to make some changes to the roster now if they so choose and if they legitimately think they can land Suter, Hjalmarsson could be the guy who you need to get rid of to make that happen. Not that Hjalmarsson is wanted out of Chicago by our fans by any means, but if Bowman feels like going in a different direction and making changes after a disappointing first-round exit, then that might have to be what happens.

I wouldn't trade Montador for Komisarek. Take on almost $2M in cap space when the Hawks need cap space now to not have to deal with the last year of Montador's contract and take on a worse player? If it has to happen, I'd rather just bury Monty and be done with it. No need to add Komisarek to our cap problems.
Hindsight is 20/20

At this moment it was mistake

Cost us Niemi and 1st/3rd round picks

But we had no way to see into future and see that Hammer's development would stall

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Sure
Ribeiro and Fistric for Hammer, Frolik and Pirri?

Sweet action.

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Trading either makes no sense unless the Hawks are all in on Suter.

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So first Hawks sign Hjalmarsson over Niemi and now a year later they are shipping him away? Doesn't seem like a good asset management to me.

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So your saying Hjalmarsson that only played protected minutes and just the Pk is as good or better then Smid, Schultz, or Petry.
how did he only play protected minutes? player usage charts do not indicate that...

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He's a guy the Habs should target, I doubt they have anything that could interest the Hawks (not sure about what they need though).

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Hjalmarsson
CHI 1st 2012 (18th overall)

To CHI:
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CGY 1st 2012 (14th overall)

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So first Hawks sign Hjalmarsson over Niemi and now a year later they are shipping him away? Doesn't seem like a good asset management to me.
Hawks matched Hjalmarsson offer sheet in 2010

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Hjalmarsson
CHI 1st 2012 (18th overall)

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Horrible for Hawks ,, Truly awful

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My feeling is that if Hjammer gets dealt, it will be for a current roster player and not a pick or prospect. That's not to say a prospect or pick wouldn't be included, but I'd say a roster play must be in the deal for it to get done.
I can see him moved in a Staal deal. It would make a lot of sense.

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would love a larsson/hammer pairing on the devils.

could we off tedenby to you (not straight up of course)

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Hammer for 19th is perfect for both teams IMO.

Or we can expand it if the Blackhawks would like a goalie prospect close to ready for the NHL like Tokarski.

Hammer+2nd round pick for Tokarski+19th.

Something like that.

I think we make good partners.

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