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Leafs 2nd. pick, 35th. overall is: Matthew Finn - Defender

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06-23-2012, 09:45 AM
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No you're just spot on here. Hating Burke is just soooooo idiosyncratic of you. We're all sheep here.
Well with 45 years without an appearance in the Finals, 8 years without the playoffs, yet still leading the league in merchandise sales, viewership, combined with over 45 straight years of sellouts, and STILL supporting everything Burke does, then yes, you are all sheep here.

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Has Burke finally silenced Cherry and the CBC by drafting two Canadian kids now?

I think this is an insurance pick, Percy has to have injury concerns moving forward.

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Has Burke finally silenced Cherry and the CBC by drafting two Canadian kids now?

I think this is an insurance pick, Percy has to have injury concerns moving forward.
Silenced about 50% of him. Rielly is from BC.

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Well with 45 years without an appearance in the Finals, 8 years without the playoffs, yet still leading the league in merchandise sales, viewership, combined with over 45 straight years of sellouts, and STILL supporting everything Burke does, then yes, you are all sheep here.
Because boycotting the games and not buying Leafs ball caps is going to turn Tyler Bozak into Claude Giroux and all our problems will be over and there will be lollipops and rainbows for all. Boom. Logic.

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Surprised he made it to 35. Sounds like a good pick. Too bad Dansk or Collberg didn't drop to us, but wow do we have some defensive prospects now. Anyone who is complaining about that obviously doesn't understand the business of hockey or how much turnover there will be on our roster in the next 5 years alone.

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Has Burke finally silenced Cherry and the CBC by drafting two Canadian kids now?
He should've already silenced Cherry seeing how he's drafted more Ontario-born players since arriving in Toronto than any other team has.

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06-23-2012, 09:50 AM
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Not mad or anything but wished we took Kerdiles.

Finn's solid though.

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I am so happy the Leafs did not trade 35 down to get a couple lower picks...
Matt Finn seems to be the straw that breaks the camels back in terms of looking at the Leafs D pool and saying - "not bad" - compared to saying - holy, thats a lot of depth.

I was thinking what another poster already mentioned, that Rielly, Finn, and Percy will all compete to be on team Canada's U20 team. While I think Rielly is a safe bet, it is nice to have other candidates.

With Gardiner just graduating, it is impressive to still have Rielly, Percy, Blacker, Finn, and Holzer on the radar in the next few years... Especially when the current D is not old by any means...

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Playoffs?
Man some people just don't get it...I for one would much rather see a long thorough rebuild that produces a legit contender than a stupid 8th seed playoff birth. If the Leafs miss the playoffs again this year does it really matter if they are stock piling young talent and building towards a big picture?? I for one am glad Burke has resisted trading his young assets just to get in the playoffs. I personally can handle a few more years of bad hockey if it means a legit contender. People assume that other teams are looking to trade their good players to the Leafs for the Leafs scraps just because the Leafs fans think deserve everyone else's good players. Playoff contending teams are not built over night. It takes years of patients to rebuild. To everyone who complains about the Leafs drafting defensman I say it takes way longer to develop defenseman than forwards so why not build your defense first then draft and find forwards so all your young players are getting good at the same time? Good job yesterday and today Mr. Burke. I see where you are trying to go with this team!!!

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Don Cherry would be proud!

Sounds like he projects to be Carl Gunnarsson.
To me he doesn't sound like a shut down guy like Gunnar... I see him as similar to Percy. Maybe even a bit better though.

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What are the chances we see both Rielly and Finn playing for Team Canada next year?

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Well with 45 years without an appearance in the Finals, 8 years without the playoffs, yet still leading the league in merchandise sales, viewership, combined with over 45 straight years of sellouts, and STILL supporting everything Burke does, then yes, you are all sheep here.
What would you suggest then for Burke to do?

Trade every prospect in our system and completely destroying it in the process by trading for a guy who made it clear that he wants to play with his Big Brother when his contract expires?

Trade for an over rated and overpaid winger who averages about 65 points a season with a 7.8 mil per/yr and hasn't led his team or has made it past the 1st round in his 9 years as a NHL player?

Trade valuable assets for a goaltender with a lifetime contract and in which we have the most leverage in getting him next to nothing?

You must be a great poker player.


So tell us genius, what would you do differently than Burke that would make the Leafs a better team for both next season AND in the future???

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With Gardiner just graduating, it is impressive to still have Rielly, Percy, Blacker, Finn, and Holzer on the radar in the next few years... Especially when the current D is not old by any means...
at the same time Phaneuf and Komisarek's contracts are up.

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Sounds like Gunnarsson, no?
Sounds a bit like Sylvain Lefebvre, which I would love. You hardly ever knew the guy was on the ice, in a good way.

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This is actually starting to be a problem because these guys will have no room to play for the Leafs or Marlies even if they're good enough.

Phaneuf
Gardiner
Rielly
Gunnarsson
Schenn
Franson
Liles
Komisarek
Holzer
Fraser
Blacker
Percy
Finn
Nilsson
Granberg

And do we still go after Schultz?

I can't imagine the Leafs getting proper trade value out of these guys or developing them properly to the point where we can make good hockey deals for quality forwards. This is getting retarded. There's depth but this isn't even useful anymore.

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[QUOTE=Darkhorse1280;51371965]What would you suggest then for Burke to do?

Trade every prospect in our system and completely destroying it in the process by trading for a guy who made it clear that he wants to play with his Big Brother when his contract expires?

Trade for an over rated and overpaid winger who averages about 65 points a season with a 7.8 mil per/yr and hasn't led his team or has made it past the 1st round in his 9 years as a NHL player?

Trade valuable assets for a goaltender with a lifetime contract and in which we have the most leverage in getting him next to nothing?

You must be a great poker player.


So tell us genius, what would you do differently than Burke that would make the Leafs a better team for both next season AND in the future???[/QUOTE]


I want to hear this too...Your answers have to be logical...Kadri for Jordan Staal and such solutions are just not gonna cut it. Your answers have to make sense for everyone involved!!

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He should've already silenced Cherry seeing how he's drafted more Ontario-born players since arriving in Toronto than any other team has.
It has to be players from Ontario. That played in the OHL. If you are awestern boy like Frattin and Colborne and chose to go the college route instead of the CHL, that's a sin in Don's book.

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LOL

Brandon Sutter is a quality NHL player, not a fourth-liner on par with any of our Marlies prospects.

Besides, it's not just about beating another team's offer. Staal wanted to go to Carolina to play with his brother. For all we know Burke was interested and would've been willing to give up more for him, but he wouldn't have re-signed here.
The only club that could make that deal was the Canes. Staal made it clear to the Pens he was not interested in committing to them. Watch for Marc to join them at some point. The Leafs never had a shot.

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We could potentially have Percy, Finn, and Rielly playing for Canada at the WJ's.
Could be off a year but didn't we have Bell, Colaiacovo and White all on the same team for WJ's? If so, its certainly exciting as 2 of them have had solid careers (Carlo less so, but we don't need to get into that)

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What are the chances we see both Rielly and Finn playing for Team Canada next year?
Around 71.8%

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I can't imagine the Leafs getting proper trade value out of these guys or developing them properly to the point where we can make good hockey deals for quality forwards. This is getting retarded. There's depth but this isn't even useful anymore.
See, the trick is to trade the established ones.

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Can people **** and stop crying about not picking a forward? This kid was the BPA by far. I personally had him at 13. I honestly think he is a better prospect than Percy and has quite a bit more upside. This guy is a steal. A great character kid and a leafs fan.

The leafs know what they are doing. They probably saw a lot of Finn this season while keeping a eye on last years pick Garret Sparks. He's so good. I'm so happy with this pick.

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This is actually starting to be a problem because these guys will have no room to play for the Leafs or Marlies even if they're good enough.

Phaneuf
Gardiner
Rielly
Gunnarsson
Schenn
Franson
Liles
Komisarek
Holzer
Fraser
Blacker
Percy
Finn
Nilsson
Granberg

And do we still go after Schultz?
I can't imagine the Leafs getting proper trade value out of these guys or developing them properly to the point where we can make good hockey deals for quality forwards. This is getting retarded. There's depth but this isn't even useful anymore.

Yes please go after Schultz...You really think it is a problem having too many D-prospects??? Its a sweet problem if you ask me!!

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This is actually starting to be a problem because these guys will have no room to play for the Leafs or Marlies even if they're good enough.

Phaneuf
Gardiner
Rielly
Gunnarsson
Schenn
Franson
Liles
Komisarek
Holzer
Fraser
Blacker
Percy
Finn
Nilsson
Granberg

And do we still go after Schultz?

I can't imagine the Leafs getting proper trade value out of these guys or developing them properly to the point where we can make good hockey deals for quality forwards. This is getting retarded. There's depth but this isn't even useful anymore.
I completely agree! Any GM that looks at our AHL/NHL roster and wants to make a deal, will definitely try and rip us off knowing we need to move "some" defencemen.
How do we get top dollar for some of these guys?

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Is this draft on tv anywhere?

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