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Enstrom for your 1st-2nd line centre

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06-21-2012, 12:21 PM
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Enstrom for your 1st-2nd line centre

The Jets are weak down the middle with a few middle of the road centres such as Burmistrov, Little, Antropov.

Last year we had to use Burmistrov on our second line because we had no one else that could fit that role.

Enstrom is a great defensemen who has only 1 yr left on his deal. The Jets management has stated we need to get bigger. Trading Enstrom and getting a solid 1b or 2nd line centre will help our offence and take the pressure off some of our younger guys.


Enstrom's value is fairly high despite his contract status

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06-21-2012, 12:24 PM
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Would love to bring him to Chicago. Sharp and Montador for Enstrom and Little?

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Enstrom is not worth a 1st line centre. And the fact that he's only signed for one more year dings his value just a bit.

Teams don't give away 1st line centres at all. Even 2nd line centres cost a pretty penny in contract value and assets in a trade.

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06-21-2012, 12:28 PM
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Enstrom is not worth a 1st line centre. And the fact that he's only signed for one more year dings his value just a bit.

Teams don't give away 1st line centres at all. Even 2nd line centres cost a pretty penny in contract value and assets in a trade.
Yup. Perhaps if Winnipeg packaged Enstrom with their 1st they can take a run at a 1B-type, but even then you aren't going to get a true 1C.

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Derek Roy + Jordan Leopold + #42 & #44

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Enstrom + Cormier + #39.

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Enstrom also is an offensive defenseman with solid puck-handling and ability to push up ice and while that carries tremendous value today in the NHL, he is not a two-way force on the backline. He's a guy who can be placed on a top-pairing with a true #1 defenseman, but is ideally more suited for probably the 2nd pairing and is not a guy who profiles to play the PK, and is more of a PP specialist.

He's a nice fit for a lot of teams, but in terms of trade value, I don't think there's a lot out there for the Jets in terms of lining up a 1 for 1 trade.

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Derek Roy + Jordan Leopold + #42 & #44

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Enstrom + Cormier + #39.
Roy for Enstrom might make sense given their contract situations--but I'm not sure about the other elements of the deal.

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Enstrom is not worth a 1st line centre. And the fact that he's only signed for one more year dings his value just a bit.

Teams don't give away 1st line centres at all. Even 2nd line centres cost a pretty penny in contract value and assets in a trade.
Signed Enstrom is easily worth a low end 1st line center, but yeah his contract status is a pretty big hit to his trade value.

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Yup. Perhaps if Winnipeg packaged Enstrom with their 1st they can take a run at a 1B-type, but even then you aren't going to get a true 1C.
oh, i would like Enstrom - does it need to be an NHL player or could it be a prospect C deal?
If i knew we could resign him i would possibly offer up Zibinejad.

i think Enstrom is awesome.

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oh, i would like Enstrom - does it need to be an NHL player or could it be a prospect C deal?
If i knew we could resign him i would possibly offer up Zibinejad.

i think Enstrom is awesome.
The OP, in my reading, wanted a current 1B-type center.

Obviously, if prospects are on the table, it becomes a different discussion.

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Burmistrov + Enstrom for Ribiero + Oleksiak + Bachman?

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Enstrom+Kane for Bergeron, Boychuk, 1st

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Not this year, especially with McClement probably leaving.. but Enstrom for Stastny as a base makes sense

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Burmistrov + Enstrom for Ribiero + Oleksiak + Bachman?
Too steep for WPG.

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Enstrom+Kane for Bergeron, Boychuk, 1st
You would.

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If he's traded, he'll return at least what Brent Burns fetched.

Personally, I'd rather keep him.

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OP here

Obviously Enstrom alone won't get us a premier 1st line centre.

Our prospects and whatever else are on the table of course (excluding Bogo, Kane etc)

But Enstrom ideally would be the main piece. What we'd need is a good 2nd line centre or a 1b type top line player, like Little is with us.

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oh, i would like Enstrom - does it need to be an NHL player or could it be a prospect C deal?
If i knew we could resign him i would possibly offer up Zibinejad.

i think Enstrom is awesome.
A prospect like Zibinejad would be interesting as he's what I think management want in a centre. A conditional pick i think would need to be included if teams were concerned about Enstrom resigning.

Though more pieces would be involved than just Mika and Toby I would think

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I think something around Enstrom and Plekanec would work.

Habs need defensive depth, Jets need a centre.

I also really like Desharnis(sp) for that trade as well.

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Derek Roy + Jordan Leopold + #42 & #44

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Enstrom + Cormier + #39.
Roy is another 1 of the smallish centers we have (a bit more talented when not hurt). Leopold is depth only.

Enstrom is the perfect complement to a top D & Cormier is 1 of our few larger centers.

It sounds good but doesn't help the Jets build that team. TN is also targeting younger players because they know they are more then a few parts away & have to develop the base of the team.
I like the #42 & 44 for #39 though.

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What about Gagner, he has a lot of skill and still is only 23.

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I disagree with the assessment of the Jets needs here. They're missing a true number 1, the caliber of which Enstrom, even signed longterm, wouldn't get, but otherwise they have some depth at center. Little, Burmistrov and Scheifele all project to at least be good second line centers - it's likely one will be a "1B" type center as some have suggested the Jets need - and Cormier projects as a good third line center. Behind Wheeler they have literally nothing at RW, which is indicative of the overall lack of depth in the organization. Since the team isn't contending next year or even the year after, my opinion is that the team is better off longterm by flipping Enstrom for picks (a couple mid-late firsts + a prospect at the deadline?) and building up their depth properly over time, rather than trading him for yet another second line center or less than ideal first line center.

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Burmistrov + Enstrom for Ribiero + Oleksiak + Bachman?
I certainly wouldn't do it. I'm not keen on selling Burmistrov while his value is at a low, he's a late-bloomer and he's going to be a good player in a few years when the Jets are ready to take the next step.

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Enstrom is not worth a 1st line centre. And the fact that he's only signed for one more year dings his value just a bit.

Teams don't give away 1st line centres at all. Even 2nd line centres cost a pretty penny in contract value and assets in a trade.

Enstrom is worth a 1st line centerman. Winnipeg will take Morgan Reilly in the draft, resign Enstrom and package him in the off season 2013 for a first line centerman. Book it.

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If the Avs strike out in FA and get to talk to him about an extension, I'd be down for something like Staz/Duchene and Elliott/Barrie for Enstrom and Burmistrov, with some picks to balance it out.

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Enstrom is not worth a 1st line centre. And the fact that he's only signed for one more year dings his value just a bit.

Teams don't give away 1st line centres at all. Even 2nd line centres cost a pretty penny in contract value and assets in a trade.
Trading away a 1st line center is rare, but not without precedent. I do agree that I don't see Enstrom getting them a return like that though. When you look at players like Richards or Thornton being traded, in each case the team trading them away had other Cs to build around (Giroux, Bergeron, most notably) and they were getting a solid return back.

Enstrom is a great player, but his contract is short and he alone can't replace the loss of a 1st line C.

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What about Gagner, he has a lot of skill and still is only 23.
Gagner doesn't provide anything that the Jets don't already get from Little. Both were great offensively in juniors but are undersized and have yet to be anything more than a decent second line center in the NHL.

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