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Andrej Sekera after 7/1

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06-24-2012, 09:55 PM
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Andrej Sekera after 7/1

So, Andrej Sekera has a very interestingly structured contract:

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=389

It was a 4 year, 11 million dollar deal

4.25 paid last year.
3.25 paid this year (1.75 of that as part of a signing bonus)
1.75 in 13-14
1.75 in 14-15

So, 4 year, 11 million deal. 6 million of it paid as of 7/1/2012. So, if he's traded after 7/1, the new team is on the hook for 5 million over the next 3 years...or...a steal.

With that taken into consideration, what is his value for cash conscience teams such as Nashville, Phoenix, or the Islanders?

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06-24-2012, 10:02 PM
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Sekera only goes as part of a deal for a first line player. Nothing less. He was our best defenseman on a sweetheart contract (he's a steal at 2.75) regardless of whether people notice him outside of Buffalo.

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This guy is such a steal, and very few people talk about him. Look at how good he was at the worlds. For value? I would say based on his pay and skill, a good roster player would be fair. Like Sekera+ for Patrick Kane/Bobby Ryan etc...

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Keep him, unless he's a primary piece in a deal for Bobby Ryan.

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keep him, unless he's a primary piece in a deal for bobby ryan.
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It's hard to see them finding someone as effective for that sort of coin, so unless the deal involves a first-line talent in return, it's hard to imagine just shuffling the guy around and still effectively backfilling his role.

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Keep him, unless he's a primary piece in a deal for Bobby Ryan.
Exactly.

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I suspect that his value around the league is generally lower than what it is to Buffalo, at least in the eyes of fans, because I doubt he's properly on the radar.

Consensus best defenseman for Buffalo last season, sweetheart deal if he continues playing anywhere near that level, occasionally takes over offensively, likely still has some ceiling left.

It doesn't make much sense to move him any time soon unless it's in a package for an impact forward and that's largely because we have so much in the defensive pipeline. So it'd then require a very specific dance partner who's offering up such a player, values a rock-solid, bargain top 4 defenseman, and likes what other pieces we'd have to offer.


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Id say tell all this to fans of a certain teams that look down on pllayers because they are too lazy to even see if they are any good. =/


That being said I could see him going as a major peice in a deal for a guy like ryan. He's the kind of guy every GM loves to have on a roster.

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Keep him, unless he's a primary piece in a deal for Bobby Ryan.
He wouldnt be.

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He wouldnt be.
Exactly why not? Top 4 all situation dman who will be only owed 5 million dollars over the next three years assuming he is dealt after Sunday. That doesn't fit any of the Ducks' needs

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Exactly why not? Top 4 all situation dman who will be only owed 5 million dollars over the next three years assuming he is dealt after Sunday. That doesn't fit any of the Ducks' needs
Exactly the type of guy i want on the Ducks. But top 4 shutdown guys should not be a priority over a guy who has scored atleast 30 goals every year in the NHL.

The asking price in December from Toronto was Kessel+Grabo. Sorry if I expect alot. i doubt BM trades him. He is signe another 3 years and no reason to move him unless crazy overpayment or we somehow sign Parise.

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Exactly the type of guy i want on the Ducks. But top 4 shutdown guys should not be a priority over a guy who has scored atleast 30 goals every year in the NHL.

The asking price in December from Toronto was Kessel+Grabo. Sorry if I expect alot. i doubt BM trades him. He is signe another 3 years and no reason to move him unless crazy overpayment or we somehow sign Parise.
Sekera can also play as PMD when asked as well. He also has experience playing winger in the NHL. He is the definition of all situations.

Ryan said he wants out. But that's not the topic on hand.

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Exactly the type of guy i want on the Ducks. But top 4 shutdown guys should not be a priority over a guy who has scored atleast 30 goals every year in the NHL.

The asking price in December from Toronto was Kessel+Grabo. Sorry if I expect alot. i doubt BM trades him. He is signe another 3 years and no reason to move him unless crazy overpayment or we somehow sign Parise.
I don't understand why Anaheim was ever shopping him in the first place; sure they were topheavy but the solution, imo, wasn't to break that top line off. I imagine his recent remarks made out of frustration can be reconciled and everyone there can move forward, but if not and they are compelled to move him then I doubt he gets Kessel+Grabo.

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Sekera can also play as PMD when asked as well. He also has experience playing winger in the NHL. He is the definition of all situations.

Ryan said he wants out. But that's not the topic on hand.
Please tell me where he says "I want to be traded"

He said "I am sick of feeling liek i am going to be traded so if you are going to trade me then trade me. If not the **** and let me do my job"


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I don't understand why Anaheim was ever shopping him in the first place; sure they were topheavy but the solution, imo, wasn't to break that top line off. I imagine his recent remarks made out of frustration can be reconciled and everyone there can move forward, but if not and they are compelled to move him then I doubt he gets Kessel+Grabo.
....Why can people not understand this. He was not being shopped. People were asking about Bobby and Bob was listening. Any good Gm would do this.

I bet you guys dont want Myers to be "shopped' but if an offer like this came along would you be pissed your GM didnt listen:

Fowler+Etem+2012 6th overall+ 2013 1st

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50 percent of the fans in the NHL have never heard of him, the other 45 percent dont care about him the other 4 percent are sabres fans and 1 percent care about him that are not sabres fans but undervalue him. Hope that makes sense

I proposed this question in the sabres forum and as suspected his value is very low, no one but sabres fans and a few others care about him and really I think the type of player Sekera could get you is a Drew Stafford type player. Maybe next year his value goes up.

Drew Stafford
Sekera
Adam

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Bobby Ryan
2nd round pick


That is very fair

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Please tell me where he says "I want to be traded"

He said "I am sick of feeling liek i am going to be traded so if you are going to trade me then trade me. If not the **** and let me do my job"




....Why can people not understand this. He was not being shopped. People were asking about Bobby and Bob was listening. Any good Gm would do this.

I bet you guys dont want Myers to be "shopped' but if an offer like this came along would you be pissed your GM didnt listen:

Fowler+Etem+2012 6th overall+ 2013 1st

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He said that the team has never made him feel like they want him around and he wishes they would just trade him already because he is sick of feeling like if the team doesn't perform he's the first one out the door. If you don't like that he said that blame your GM because frankly an idiot could have handled Bobby Ryan better. But again this thread isn't about whether or not Ryan is on the market it is about the trade value of Andrej Sekera.

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50 percent of the fans in the NHL have never heard of him, the other 45 percent dont care about him the other 4 percent are sabres fans and 1 percent care about him that are not sabres fans but undervalue him. Hope that makes sense

I proposed this question in the sabres forum and as suspected his value is very low, no one but sabres fans and a few others care about him and really I think the type of player Sekera could get you is a Drew Stafford type player. Maybe next year his value goes up.

Drew Stafford
Sekera
Adam

For
Bobby Ryan
2nd round pick


That is very fair

That is fair in player value, but not fair in contract costs.
Anaheim is not looking to take on additional salary in a Ryan move, Sekera works and Adam would be ok (if indeed they view him as value) but Stafford would most likely be a non-starter for them.

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Please tell me where he says "I want to be traded"

He said "I am sick of feeling liek i am going to be traded so if you are going to trade me then trade me. If not the **** and let me do my job"




....Why can people not understand this. He was not being shopped. People were asking about Bobby and Bob was listening. Any good Gm would do this.

I bet you guys dont want Myers to be "shopped' but if an offer like this came along would you be pissed your GM didnt listen:

Fowler+Etem+2012 6th overall+ 2013 1st

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I'll take Bob McKenzie's insight on the Ryan situation over yours, sorry.
Bob McK stated back in Jan. that Ryan appears to be available from the Ducks.
And there were numerous rumblings of Buffalo being very interested.

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That is fair in player value, but not fair in contract costs.
Anaheim is not looking to take on additional salary in a Ryan move, Sekera works and Adam would be ok (if indeed they view him as value) but Stafford would most likely be a non-starter for them.
i'm not a Buffalo fan or a Ducks fan but would any of these work with the teams?

TO BUF:
Bobby Ryan
2nd Round Pick 2013

TO ANA:
1st Round 2013
Luke Adam
Andrej Sekera

OR:

TO BUF:
Bobby Ryan

TO ANA:
Luke Adam
Andrej Sekera
2nd/3rd Round Pick 2013 (maybe conditional depending on Ryan's performance in Buffalo)

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I'll take Bob McKenzie's insight on the Ryan situation over yours, sorry.
Bob McK stated back in Jan. that Ryan appears to be available from the Ducks.
And there were numerous rumblings of Buffalo being very interested.
Never said he wasnt available. There is a difference between available and being shopped.

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Never said he wasnt available. There is a difference between available and being shopped.
This is true, my apologies, let me rephrase then.
Since Bobby Mac was suggesting he is available, I can't see Bobby Ryan making that call as he is a player, usually when Bob Mac reports something like that, it comes from the teams management dept.

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How about the teams who like to hover around the cap floor. Does the paper ~1 million cap hit for 3 years retain any value to them?

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i'm not a Buffalo fan or a Ducks fan but would any of these work with the teams?

TO BUF:
Bobby Ryan
2nd Round Pick 2013

TO ANA:
1st Round 2013
Luke Adam
Andrej Sekera

OR:

TO BUF:
Bobby Ryan

TO ANA:
Luke Adam
Andrej Sekera
2nd/3rd Round Pick 2013 (maybe conditional depending on Ryan's performance in Buffalo)
Not knowing specifically what Anaheim is looking for, I don't know if Luke Adam would be in the mix, possible though.

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How about the teams who like to hover around the cap floor. Does the paper ~1 million cap hit for 3 years retain any value to them?
CapGeek has Sekera's cap hit at 2.75 mil, were you referring to Sekera?

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