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06-23-2012, 11:29 AM
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Roberto Luongo is not elite. And name a number one centre that could be had for such a package.
Hahahaa there goes your credability.

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Haha by all means, begin critiquing Leafs players and judging trade value. That's what this thread is all about!
Out of a 23 man roster, only good players that would help the canucks:
Grabovski: would be good 3rd line center, overpaid by about 1.1 million if not played on leafs.

Schenn: would be good #6-7 guy behind Tanev. Schenn is known for atrocious give aways and does not possess the footspeed to play the canucks game, buy could learn from Tanev of how to play a
steady game and use footspeed.

Gardiner and gunnarsson: actual good pieces

Kessel: let me ask you something why did Wilson play Kesler in all the key situations during the olympics and not kessel? Probably because certain players get you goals and some win you games.

Other than that. Don't see any other players that could help our team. Maybe lupul if he has another consistent season and learns to backcheck.

You agree sauras?

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Roberto Luongo is not elite.
Yes he is, saying he isn't just proves you're a troll.

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Hahahaa there goes your credability.
He was once elite but teams don't judge trade value based on what players were, they judge value on what they are.

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Out of a 23 man roster, only good players that would help the canucks:
Grabovski: would be good 3rd line center, overpaid by about 1.1 million if not played on leafs.

Schenn: would be good #6-7 guy behind Tanev. Schenn is known for atrocious give aways and does not possess the footspeed to play the canucks game, buy could learn from Tanev of how to play a
steady game and use footspeed.

Gardiner and gunnarsson: actual good pieces

Kessel: let me ask you something why did Wilson play Kesler in all the key situations during the olympics and not kessel? Probably because certain players get you goals and some win you games.

Other than that. Don't see any other players that could help our team. Maybe lupul if he has another consistent season and learns to backcheck.

You agree sauras?
Not in the least but that's the name of the game! Thanks for adding to the discussion.

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He was once elite but teams don't judge trade value based on what players were, they judge value on what they are.
Like Phanuef?

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Like Phanuef?
Don't do that, Luongo has more to offer than Dion.

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If I was a fan I would be SCREAMING to get a freaking good goalie on the team!!!!

We are, but not necessarily Luongo which is what Vancouver fans cannot seem to grasp.

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Like Phanuef?
Indeed. Do you think Calgary would have traded Dion Phaneuf for the package they received when he was just finishing off the first two years of his career?

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He was once elite but teams don't judge trade value based on what players were, they judge value on what they are.
hah. whatever...if thats what you get when you dont watch him play sure.

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Leafs aren't getting Luongo. I guarantee it
Leafs don't need Luongo unless he's coming at a reasonable price without mortgaging the future

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I don't think so...I think you have to look at a marketing thing as well, loungo is a bigger name then those guys.
What in God's name makes you think the Leafs need him from a marketing perspective? They already sell out, tickets are damned near impossible to get, merchandise sells all over the place, and they get huge TV numbers. Why, exactly, do they need him for marketing purposes?

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Leafs don't need Luongo unless he's coming at a reasonable price without mortgaging the future
They key here is a reasonable price...komiserik is not reasonable. Apparently the canucks already turned down schen for him.

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He was once elite but teams don't judge trade value based on what players were, they judge value on what they are.
... He has shown no form of statistical regression and has been a model of consistency throughout his career...

The only thing that changed about Luongo is he has a smaller cap hit now...

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Leafs don't need Luongo unless he's coming at a reasonable price without mortgaging the future
Great point. I'd just like to quote this to emphasize it.

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What in God's name makes you think the Leafs need him from a marketing perspective? They already sell out, tickets are damned near impossible to get, merchandise sells all over the place, and they get huge TV numbers. Why, exactly, do they need him for marketing purposes?
Because they know his jerseys will sell like crazy = more money...I'm not saying they desperately need the money I'm saying it will make them money.

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Not in the least but that's the name of the game! Thanks for adding to the discussion.
Well thanks for not adding to the discussion! I remember when I thought people couldn't tell past my passive aggressiveness. Haha, whata ****. Your thoughts not you.

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Don't do that, Luongo has more to offer than Dion.
I know. But im trying to help him understand.

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The leafs have traded the moster to winnipeg....a precurser?

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I dont think most people are asking for the farm.

Its usually a package built around Schenn/Kulemin, a prospect like Kadri and then a second tier prospect like Colborne/Ashon/2nd.

A couple proposals have had Picks/prospects heading to Toronto with Lu..

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Indeed. Do you think Calgary would have traded Dion Phaneuf for the package they received when he was just finishing off the first two years of his career?
I don't know what you r arguing but I've watched enough of Phanuef his year to know he's a better captain then a defenseman. What does that say.

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I know. But im trying to help him understand.
I know but this isn't a normal member we're talking about, this is a professional troll/leaf homer he's only here to undervalue our players because he gets great amusement from the attention he receives and by mentioning Dion you're only allowing him to draw comparisons between the two because you brought it up, that's called feeding the troll.

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Indeed. Do you think Calgary would have traded Dion Phaneuf for the package they received when he was just finishing off the first two years of his career?
Of course you are neglecting what separates Phaneuf from Luongo. The former was severely struggling and became a liability both on the ice and off, especially with added fuel of supposedly being a locker room cancer in Calgary. Whereas the latter put up a respectable .919%, was a year removed from dominate season that saw him nominated for a Vezina and nearly taking his team to their first cup win. Furthermore, he is well liked by management despite fan whining.

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I dont think most people are asking for the farm.

Its usually a package built around Schenn/Kulemin, a prospect like Kadri and then a second tier prospect like Colborne/Ashon/2nd.

A couple proposals have had Picks/prospects heading to Toronto with Lu..
So you're asking for a roster player (Kulemin is much better than Schenn and will not be moved), a wonderful prospect like Nazem Kadri that has tons of potential, and including even more prospects like Colborne or Ashton!

That trade could net a player that'll contribute for a hell of a lot longer than Roberto Luongo can and not attached to the contract he comes with.

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I don't know what you r arguing but I've watched enough of Phanuef his year to know he's a better captain then a defenseman. What does that say.
That says that he is a damn good captain.

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