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06-22-2012, 02:33 PM
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All Encompassing Draft Day Thread Part 2: YAKUPOV!

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Joke franchise. It's good they think they can piss on their fans. Maybe a big fan defection is the only thing that will get changes made.



Since our management started eating lead paint chips. We aren't pleased with this information.
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I have stated before and will state again if we Pass on Yakupov it has Katz fingerprints all over it, and if people don't think he has a say on it just think about it why do potential picks have to have dinner with him. He has to like who we pick plain and simple.
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Every damn year people keep saying how bad the draft year is. 3rd damn year in a row i've heard the same thing.
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We can hope...
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Picking Murray over Yakupov at #1 would really irritate me, but not as much is if Mr. Dithers does that and then doesn't take advantage of the trade talk blowing around.

Looks like today could be twice as active as FA day...

Also, if they do take Murray, it had better be for hockey reasons and not the usual Oilers "braintrust" M.O. of players from the WHL are better than from everywhere else, and attitude is more important than talent...
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It's an Oilers thing. The eastern media is fed up with the Oilers picking high in the draft.
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If Ryan Murray were another Tom Gilbert I doubt scouts would have him pegged as the #2 pick.

Unless you all know more than the professional scouts, of course.

I'd rather pick Yakupov, but let's not sell Murray short here.
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been listeining to stauffer and others i think were taking murray for sure... bob said straight up he thinks its murray and that its the year of the defensemen why would we take a forward blah blah ... **** this sucks ass man
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So really it's Now

Take Nail or Fail
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And in 5hrs...

Oilers Fail, Didn't take Nail

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If we see more gifs like this tonight, it might take some of the sting off of Murray being drafted 1st.

I already feel bad for Murray based on some of the comments in this thread. It'll be a shame when he is unfairly ridiculed and takes the majority of the venom coming his way that should instead be directed towards the Oilers brass.
The mods sure have their work cut out for them tonight.
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Dan Tencer just tweeted a pic from the draft floor with a picture of Yakupov being taken by Edmonton, it's okay everyone. False alarm!
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LOL. A scout in the Hockey News draft guide compares Murray to Nick Schultz...
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I think the Edmonton media will protect the living crap out of Murray if he's picked.

Stauffer has set himself up to look good no matter what happens with his head says and gut says bull crap. That's chickening out if I've ever seen it.

Fact is most Edmonton media don't really know 2 cents about the draft prospects.
They see Edmonton is weak on D.. Draft a D makes sense.

I want to see who has the balls to call them out for drafting Murray. The fan back lash will be huge but will be rebuffed by the media for sure. If there's one thing the media is good at is riding their high horse that they and the team know better.

In 3 years from now if Yakupov is becoming a top forward and Murray languishes behind. The media will come out of the woodwork then. That's when Murray will feel the heat and we'll have to trade him for a crap return.
Good article by Gregor here. Can he be GM?

http://oilersnation.com/2012/6/22/the-final-countdown

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With regards to the Murray's brother thing I really don't think he actually knows

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Yakupov the pick.



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Meh, the media will always say stuff to get attention. Talking about Nail as 1st overall gets them ignored. Talking about Murray as 1st overall gets people talking.

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I'm not sure where the Murray-Gilbert comparison is coming from. Gilbert was not the highest scoring Dman on his team for three years straight in the WCHA..and he was playing with Pavelski, Suter, Burish...I don't know anyone on the Silvertips aside from Maxwell or Shane Harper who project to be regular NHLers (if they even do). Maybe Nick Walters...

It is way to early to tell...but Murray has always lead his team and played consistently well pre-draft...Gilbert...scored a lot...but was not among team leaders (even for dmen)...and has been inconsistent in the NHL.

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HFoil if we take Yak:




HFoil if we take Murray:


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I thought Gregor wanted to draft Galchenyuk at 1. At any rate, I would take either of the Sarnia duo over Murray.

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Interesting to hear Button say Murray:

isn't the best player in the draft
not the best defenseman in the draft
about the equal of Klefbom

yay...

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The people comparing Murray to Schultz are selling him short. You have to remember just how bad the team he played on was

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Interesting to hear Button say Murray:

isn't the best player in the draft
not the best defenseman in the draft
about the equal of Klefbom

yay...

Button also said (which is the most important point IMO):

18 year olds do not fill organizational needs.

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I'm not sure where the Murray-Gilbert comparison is coming from. Gilbert was not the highest scoring Dman on his team for three years straight in the WCHA..and he was playing with Pavelski, Suter, Burish...I don't know anyone on the Silvertips aside from Maxwell or Shane Harper who project to be regular NHLers (if they even do). Maybe Nick Walters...

It is way to early to tell...but Murray has always lead his team and played consistently well pre-draft...Gilbert...scored a lot...but was not among team leaders (even for dmen)...and has been inconsistent in the NHL.
Murray's WHL offensive numbers are fairly pedestrian (borrowing from Digger12) and is Murray not one of the oldest players in this draft? I think even Lowe said he could have easily have been in last years draft. He should be getting dominant offensively in the WHL at this point.

Kyle Woodlief projected him as a safe in his own zone Dman that is a 30+ point guy offensively. I think some people are overrating his offensive game.

If Woodlief is right (and in the past I have found his projections tend to be pretty good) that would put him right in the Gilbert range offensively.

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Man the pressure on the org and the player will be high if they pick Murray. I can just see Yak getting 40 in his first year in Mtl and Tambo saying that he would make the pick again because it is about the long term projection of the player. Please no.

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We're getting Mackinnon or Jones next year.

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Button also said (which is the most important point IMO):

18 year olds do not fill organizational needs.
How did it come to be that Button makes more sense than our franchise?

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Murray's WHL offensive numbers are fairly pedestrian (borrowing from Digger12) and is Murray not one of the oldest players in this draft? I think even Lowe said he could have easily have been in last years draft. He should be getting dominant offensively in the WHL at this point.

Kyle Woodlief projected him as a safe in his own zone Dman that is a 30+ point guy offensively. I think some people are overrating his offensive game.
Yup, he wasn't that far from being in last year's draft and, even on an offensively-inept Silvertips team you sorta expect more from a kid with that much (supposed) skill.

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Honestly, if they wanna take Murray they might as well trade it away for Yandle.

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Button also said (which is the most important point IMO):

18 year olds do not fill organizational needs.
You're right. And that's why I (like many others too, I bet) get so upset with the Eastern media for trying to shove this idea down our throats that the Oilers must draft a dman #1.

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Yakupov the pick.

Hard to say. This is the intelligence level of our management.


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Button also said (which is the most important point IMO):

18 year olds do not fill organizational needs.
This, a million times this.

If Seth Jones were available this year, it would be a legit conversation.

There's only ONE Elite player in this draft, and he doesn't play defense and didn't play in the WHL.

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How did it come to be that Button makes more sense than our franchise?
Button throws some curveballs sometimes but I've come to respect his opinion around Draft day.

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We're getting Mackinnon or Jones next year.
I think I'd need to take a break from watching hockey if we passed on Murray and ended up in the lottery next year.

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We're getting Mackinnon or Jones next year.
Nah we'll pass on both of them.

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Dan Hamhuis first overall?? Great pick. Seriously, don't do this to us.

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