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07-04-2012, 12:48 PM
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Thank god Suter and Parise both went to Minnesota. wouldn't have liked seeing them on the pens together.
Them on the Pens would have been terrible. I personally don't like to see any players I like go on that team because I love to hate that team!

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07-04-2012, 12:51 PM
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Them on the Pens would have been terrible. I personally don't like to see any players I like go on that team because I love to hate that team!
I remember losing my mind for Parise scoring the game tying goal at the olympics. would have hated to see that guy in a penguins jersey.

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I remember losing my mind for Parise scoring the game tying goal at the olympics. would have hated to see that guy in a penguins jersey.
Yeah, it was bad enough to see Crosby score the winner in OT.

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Very interested to see who the Flyers target now. They've been so quiet and that's really surprising. I'm wondering if Semin becomes the top target and if they try re-signing Carle or if Carle ends up elsewhere.

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07-04-2012, 01:16 PM
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Very interested to see who the Flyers target now. They've been so quiet and that's really surprising. I'm wondering if Semin becomes the top target and if they try re-signing Carle or if Carle ends up elsewhere.
B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and 2013 1st to Nashville for Weber (on the condition that the Flyers get to negotiate a long-term deal in advance).

(Not an endorsement, a prediction.)

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07-04-2012, 01:24 PM
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B. Schenn, L. Schenn, and 2013 1st to Nashville for Weber (on the condition that the Flyers get to negotiate a long-term deal in advance).

(Not an endorsement, a prediction.)
Hmmm, I doubt it. I don't see Holmgren dealing the two brothers. Schenn was the major key in the Richards trade and I doubt Holmgren flips him after one season.

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Very interested to see who the Flyers target now. They've been so quiet and that's really surprising. I'm wondering if Semin becomes the top target and if they try re-signing Carle or if Carle ends up elsewhere.
Semin and/or Mueller would be my targets with Parise out of the way. Maybe Kostitsyn. On defense, there's no one I really like (for the prices I'm assuming they'll command) so I'd rather just stand pat and have Bourdon/Gustafsson take the 6th spot.

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Hmmm, I doubt it. I don't see Holmgren dealing the two brothers. Schenn was the major key in the Richards trade and I doubt Holmgren flips him after one season.
I can't imagine him dealing one of them--but dealing both makes more sense (for us) than Coburn + Couturier--and offers Nashville a pair of young, core pieces at positions of need.

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I should add to my post perhaps, I think the three forwards I listed could be had at a fairly reasonable price for what they bring (maybe not Semin), that's why I'd be interested. I don't think either is good enough to overpay for to bring to us, and we're pretty decent as we are without adding anyone from the outside.

Hartnell-Giroux-Brière
Simmonds-Couturier-Voracek
Read-Schenn-Talbot
Wellwood-Holmstrom-Rinaldo
Shelley

Timonen-Meszaros
Coburn-Grossmann
Schenn-Bourdon
Lilja

Bryzgalov
Leighton

that's a pretty decent lineup, not a contender perhaps but a trade deadline acquisition or two could change that.

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07-04-2012, 01:36 PM
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Seems like we'll go after Carle and/or Semin now.

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07-04-2012, 04:30 PM
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The Flyers would be eating $500K on Shelley. Easier just to send him to the minors.


And then they'll probably tell him not to report and just release him.
Not happening mate

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07-04-2012, 09:43 PM
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We're looking pretty good right now imo.

The only person I'd trade for would be Weber, and I would only give away Voracek++

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07-04-2012, 09:55 PM
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Out: Jagr, Carle, JvR, Bob

In: Schenn, Gervais, Leighton.


Not so awesome sauce.


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07-04-2012, 10:03 PM
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Scratch what I said before.

What we really need is a new coach, any coach.

The only thing holding this team back last season (and the season before) was Lavy's style of play and unwillingness to adapt when it doesn't work.

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07-05-2012, 12:28 AM
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Out: Jagr, Carle, JvR, Bob

In: Schenn, Gervais, Leighton.


Not so awesome sauce.
I can live with a Schenn-Carle swap. For this season it's a step back, but Schenn does have upside and Carle isn't worth 5.5 million. Leighton though? That's horrifically stupid. He's a bad player, there are better options out there...options Homer made no attempt at. Again.

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07-05-2012, 02:26 AM
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I can live with a Schenn-Carle swap. For this season it's a step back, but Schenn does have upside and Carle isn't worth 5.5 million. Leighton though? That's horrifically stupid. He's a bad player, there are better options out there...options Homer made no attempt at. Again.
Montoya signed for 600k. I was hoping he would be an option before FA began and seeing what he signed for makes me SMH.

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07-05-2012, 03:45 AM
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Scratch what I said before.

What we really need is a new coach, any coach.
Can we get a coach that can win faceoffs?

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07-05-2012, 11:26 AM
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Instead of looking at replacing Carle's skillset, it should really be about replacing his minutes.

Schenn averaged 14:37 Even Strength last season. Timonen was 8th on the Flyers at 13:58. (Timonen was 4th the year before at 15:42).

Carle averaged 1:43 short handed and Schenn averaged 1:20, so his SHT is replaced with Schenn.

Carle averaged 2:28 PP time vs Mezsaros at 1:43 , Coburn 0:21 and Gustaffson at 0:33. I think between the three this is replaceable and likely preferable.

The hole is even strength where Carle led the team with 18:22. (Meszaros was second with 16:51).

I think the solution is to limit Timonen's Short handed time (3:28) and replace it with Even strength time and have Grossmann, Meszaros and Schenn (on top of replacing Carle) make up the difference.

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07-05-2012, 11:33 AM
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I can live with a Schenn-Carle swap. For this season it's a step back, but Schenn does have upside and Carle isn't worth 5.5 million. Leighton though? That's horrifically stupid. He's a bad player, there are better options out there...options Homer made no attempt at. Again.
Al Montoya at just $601k immediately comes to mind.

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07-05-2012, 12:15 PM
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Instead of looking at replacing Carle's skillset, it should really be about replacing his minutes.

Schenn averaged 14:37 Even Strength last season. Timonen was 8th on the Flyers at 13:58. (Timonen was 4th the year before at 15:42).

Carle averaged 1:43 short handed and Schenn averaged 1:20, so his SHT is replaced with Schenn.

Carle averaged 2:28 PP time vs Mezsaros at 1:43 , Coburn 0:21 and Gustaffson at 0:33. I think between the three this is replaceable and likely preferable.

The hole is even strength where Carle led the team with 18:22. (Meszaros was second with 16:51).

I think the solution is to limit Timonen's Short handed time (3:28) and replace it with Even strength time and have Grossmann, Meszaros and Schenn (on top of replacing Carle) make up the difference.
Not sure I agree with that b/c the skillset back on D has to match the coach's system..right now this D corps seems to be taking shape for Murray as opposed to Lavi..just saying....

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Al Montoya at just $601k immediately comes to mind.
I think you were the first person to mention Yann Danis, I liked that option the best.

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I think you were the first person to mention Yann Danis, I liked that option the best.
Another in a long line of fringe players who do good against us.....but yeah better than Leighton...

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I honestly would take Leighton over Yann Danis and Al montoya... and I hate Micheal Leighton

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I think you were the first person to mention Yann Danis, I liked that option the best.
Yeah, that was me. First and probably only poster to mention him. He re-upped with the Oilers on the first day of FA.

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Still plenty of great RFAs left. Should we consider putting out offer sheets before major trades?

Weber, E. Kane, Versteeg, Oshie, Perron, Benn, Subban, Green, Quincey.

I'd throw out offers to most of these guys (especially Benn and Oshie, huge fan of theirs). Weber is an obvious one, and Quincey is an interesting choice as well...

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