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06-22-2012, 07:15 AM
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Leafs May Move the 35th Pick to go Twice in the First Round

I'll let the mods decide if this gets moved, but as per Nonis in this article (sorry, I'm brutal at trying to embed):

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/21...-rest-at-draft

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The Leafs’ second pick is slated to come at No. 35, but there is no guarantee they will keep it. In all, the Leafs have six picks — Nos. 5, 35, 126, 156, 157 and 209.

“We’ve probably had as much discussion about our pick at 35 as our pick at five, to be honest,” Nonis said. “A lot of people think there will be some good players well into the 40s and 50s. Some teams picking late (in the first round), we’ve had some discussions about them possibly moving their pick. They feel they are going to get a good player, and at 35, we have a good shot at a quality player, as well.”

Bottom line? No matter who the Leafs pick, it’s doubtful the kid will step in and make a large impact next season.

But the pressure remains on Burke to get something done through a trade.
There has been a lot of talk with teams that have late first round picks at the chance of swapping the 35th for their late first giving us two firsts tonight.

My immediate thought is that if we can grab one of Gally / Foresberg (I REALLY want Gally) at 5th, and then maybe Dansk or Subban late in the first, tonight could be a VERY big step forward for the Leafs!

Who would you take if we got another first (20 - 28ish)?


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Vasilevski please. Would love to grab an elite tender.

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Vasilevski please. Would love to grab an elite tender.
Ohhhh yeaaaaa!!! Best case scenario (IMO) is walking away with Galchenyuk + Vasilevski or Subban.

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I'll let the mods decide if this gets moved, but as per Nonis in this article (sorry, I'm brutal at trying to embed):

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/21...-rest-at-draft

There has been a lot of talk with teams that have late first round picks at the chance of swapping the 35th for their late first giving us two firsts tonight.

My immediate thought is that if we can grab one of Gally / Foresberg (I REALLY want Gally) at 5th, and then maybe Dansk or Subban late in the first, tonight could be a VERY big step forward for the Leafs!

Who would you take if we got another first (20 - 28ish)?
If Im Burke and we get a 2nd first, Im calling MTL to see if we can flip the pick, giving them a realistic shot at Subban.

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Colton Sissons or Brendan Gaunce please. I personally think this would be a very good idea since there player in the top 15-25 that could make a very good 2nd/1st liner in Girgersons, Lindholm or possible #2 D-man with guys like Matt finn, Slater Koekkek on the board.

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if we keep 35 i like Henrik Samuelsson

if we move up 7 - 10 spots Stefan Matteau would be an interesting pick.

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Who would we need to trade in addition with the 2nd to move to 25th?

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Franson for EDM's 2nd (31st overall).

Followed by 31st + 35th for a pick from 20 - 25. Or just keep the two early second rounders.

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Okay, so what with the 35th. gets into the first?

MacArthur and 35th.?

Wonder if Colborne and 35th. could get you Flames 1st.?

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This just screams Tom Wilson

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Since we're dreaming, Hertl or Vasilevski would be awesome.

Wilson could be a decent pickup as well for size, grit and maybe some scoring.


If its a late first I'd also love to pickup up Scott Laughton. Seems like a perfect 3rd line center (maybe 2nd one day).

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Vasilevski please. Would love to grab an elite tender.
If he had cant miss elite skills he wouldnt be a borderline second rd pick. no goalie in this draft can be called blue chip or elite.

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For me, one of the hidden gems of this draft is Girgensons - he is the complete package, great defensively as a forward, and has toughness - he is, basically, a Burkian player. And he he has the skill to back it up, on top of his amazing work ethic.

Problem is, in many drafts he is going top 20, around the 17 mark or so . . . so it might be tough (as it always is) to predict what pick one would need to get him in particular.

But yeah, I think this guy is a future NHLer of note.

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Okay, so what with the 35th. gets into the first?

MacArthur and 35th.?

Wonder if Colborne and 35th. could get you Flames 1st.?
I think that's silly. Moving from 35 to 25 is not a huge disparity between the picks. It's probably more like the 35th + D'Amigo / Broll / Granberg to move the 10 spots.

The only reason we have a shot, is becuase some teams feel that the depth is there in this draft until the 40 - 50 pick range.

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For me, one of the hidden gems of this draft is Girgensons - he is the complete package, great defensively as a forward, and has toughness - he is, basically, a Burkian player. And he he has the skill to back it up, on top of his amazing work ethic.

Problem is, in many drafts he is going top 20, around the 17 mark or so . . . so it might be tough (as it always is) to predict what pick one would need to get him in particular.

But yeah, I think this guy is a future NHLer of note.
I agree, he is probably the next best player available after the top 15 pick. We have enough Tom Wilson in the system, I would be disappointed if we got him. Guys like Girgersons, Gaunce, Sissons, Lindholm, Aberg would be my target and wouldn't mind drafting a goaltender either.

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For me, one of the hidden gems of this draft is Girgensons - he is the complete package, great defensively as a forward, and has toughness - he is, basically, a Burkian player. And he he has the skill to back it up, on top of his amazing work ethic.

Problem is, in many drafts he is going top 20, around the 17 mark or so . . . so it might be tough (as it always is) to predict what pick one would need to get him in particular.

But yeah, I think this guy is a future NHLer of note.
Zemgus probably goes a lot sooner than 17...

top 15 is far more likely

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Vasilevski please. Would love to grab an elite tender.
I don't know ... I'd see him as the best bet to go KHL ... goalies take a lot longer to develop, and he'd either a) stay in russia making bigger $ while developing - which would make it tough to say "come and take an ELC with us", or else he'd have to spend 2/3 years on the Marlies making peanuts ...

I'd prefer Dansk ... he's aparently the complete package, doesn't have the KHL factor of Vasi, or the injury history of Subban ... he's big, athletic, and technically amazing ... I've read from a number of scouts that he's more of a sure thing than the other two, while they may have a slightly higher upside.

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If he had cant miss elite skills he wouldnt be a borderline second rd pick. no goalie in this draft can be called blue chip or elite.
Blue-chip? both Vasilevski and Subban has potential to be a star #1 goal-tender, unfortunately there is just too much talent in the defence group this year and with exception of few forwards.

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I think that's silly. Moving from 35 to 25 is not a huge disparity between the picks. It's probably more like the 35th + D'Amigo / Broll / Granberg to move the 10 spots.

The only reason we have a shot, is becuase some teams feel that the depth is there in this draft until the 40 - 50 pick range.
Flames pick is 14th.

So moving from 35 to 14, is going to cost.

Question is whether they still think Joe has value.

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Ohhhh yeaaaaa!!! Best case scenario (IMO) is walking away with Galchenyuk + Vasilevski or Subban.
God yes

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Zemgus probably goes a lot sooner than 17...

top 15 is far more likely
This is my fear (as a Leafs fan, if we get another low 1st round pick) - that his stock will rise, and I agree, it well might.

If looking at history . . . in "closely knit" drafts where there is movement in rankings just beforehand, it usually goes to players who have size, and who are more mature hockey-wise . . . it usually goes against those smaller, pure skill guys.

Zemgus is the former, and if anything, he might go as high as 12 or so. But who really knows? There are a lot of other Euros that could get picked in that range as well, and maybe the Leafs get lucky and can grab him at 20 something.

Hey, a Latvian Leaf fan can dream, eh?

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there seem to be a few big, rough Burke like players both on D and forward later on in this draft. it wouldn't surprise me to see him move and grab a couple nasty players - Biggs like

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