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12-31-2004, 10:00 PM
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Here's a good comparision: Naslund vs Elias

Who would you take and why?

I say edge to Elias, he has cup rings, very underated and one of the best defensive players as well has one hell of a offensive flare in his game. Nothing against Nazzy, I love him too.

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Naslund..better top end skills.

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What time zone are you in? It's still 11 here.

I take Elias. Comprable offensive skills now that Elias has rediscovered himself, and Elias is, in my opinion, the Devils best defensive forward after Madden and Pandolfo.

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Elias.

Naslund plays with Bertuzzi and Morrison. Elias plays in the most defensive system in hockey. Naslund hasn't done anything in the playoffs, Elias has had 3-4 solid years.

If it's getting points though, it's Naslund until Elias gets out of New Jersey.

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Elias.

Naslund plays with Bertuzzi and Morrison. Elias plays in the most defensive system in hockey. Naslund hasn't done anything in the playoffs, Elias has had 3-4 solid years.

If it's getting points though, it's Naslund until Elias gets out of New Jersey.
Naslund put up only three more points than Elias last season... 84 to 81.

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Naslund for me. IMO, he makes his linemates better. Elias is good, but I'll take Naslund any day of the week.

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Naslund..better top end skills.

Is this the first post of '05?
I dont know, but its a good one!

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Naslund for me. IMO, he makes his linemates better. Elias is good, but I'll take Naslund any day of the week.
Elias does just as good of a job if not better. Elias plays with Gomez and Sami Salo, not exactly a Brendan Morrison or Todd Bertuzzi there.

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Elias does just as good of a job if not better. Elias plays with Gomez and Sami Salo, not exactly a Brendan Morrison or Todd Bertuzzi there.
Did a trade happened that we aquired Gionta

BTW, I'd rather have Naslund. Naslund put up 3 extra points than Elias while playing 4 less games. Naslund also brings leadership to the table and this year. Also the fact Naslund outproduced Elias in the playoffs.

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Elias.

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Did a trade happened that we aquired Gionta

BTW, I'd rather have Naslund. Naslund put up 3 extra points than Elias while playing 4 less games. Naslund also brings leadership to the table and this year. Also the fact Naslund outproduced Elias in the playoffs.
YeS Gionta, thanks! What was I thinking, Sami salo? lol, must be all this whiskey tonight


Comparing each players linemates.

Brendan Morrison = Scott Gomez, maybe slight edge to Mo but pretty even.

Bert >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gionta

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Sami Salo

Or... not. He plays with Scott Gomez and either Brian Gionta or Grant Marshall.

Elias plays in the 2nd most defensive system (Minnesota being #1) and Naslund plays in the 2nd or 3rd most offensive system in the game. Elias' defensive game is very underrated. He should get more Selke votes.

I'll give the edge to Elias, though Naslund is one hell of a player.

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I'll take naslund. Although, I really dont have a defnitive answer on why elias is not as good of a pick

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he is so sickly under rated.

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Naslund. I don't see Elias enough to compare.

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Elias. He's more of a complete player.

Patty puts up his numbers in less total ice time, 0:37 less a game last year, and with less pp time, 0:56 a game less, and more pk time, 1:36 more a game. Over the last 3-4 years the pp time difference would be around 2:00 minutes a game.

If you're wondering about the large pp time difference, it's because NJ has had the fewest pps in the league 6 of the last 10 years, and haven't had as much as 90% of the league average advantages in any of those 10 years.

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i'd go with elias as well

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Elias. Probably would be a Ross contender year in and year out if he played on a less defensive team. Would like to see him play with Nash...drool

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Who would you take and why?

I say edge to Elias, he has cup rings, very underated and one of the best defensive players as well has one hell of a offensive flare in his game. Nothing against Nazzy, I love him too.
Not so good since it makes at least 4 or 5 times I see this comparaison....

But I would take Elias. It's close offensivly and Patty has the edge defensivly. If you take into account Naslund wants to leave the NHL soon, you've got to give the edge to Patty.

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i may be a homer but i'll take Naslund.

Naslund has greatly improved his defensive game to the point where there's not a lot of difference between the two like there once was. Naslund brings more offense, consistancy, and leadership and has the all-star persona but one of the classiest attitudes to go along with it.

this has been done in a poll and Naslund came out on top, but not by a landslide.

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i may be a homer but i'll take Naslund.

Naslund has greatly improved his defensive game to the point where there's not a lot of difference between the two like there once was. Naslund brings more offense, consistancy, and leadership and has the all-star persona but one of the classiest attitudes to go along with it.

this has been done in a poll and Naslund came out on top, but not by a landslide.
I'll give you offense and consistancy, but not leadership. Elias is underrated in that department. He's one of the big voices on the bench, he's always talking during the games and I've seen him lecture Gomez and Gionta when he thought they needed it. In terms of effort, you can count on him to give 100% every game and he gets his teammates to follow in his example.

He is the perfect Devils forward... there's a reason he survived the destruction of the A-line when Arnott and Sykora didn't.

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Naslund by far. He's insanely consistent. The leading scorer in the NHL over the last few years. He's arguably Top 5 in the league behind Forsberg, Iginla, Brodeur, and Pronger. Elias in definatley Top 15, arguable Top 10, but Naslund for me. He's one of the best natural hockey players of all time. I'd love to see him and Thornton on a line on the B's.

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