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06-22-2012, 10:56 PM
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Would I get infracted if I posted the Matteau vid in the Devils board? lol
Hey, I'm pretty sure they've all seen it before!

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I'm fine with the Skjei pick, but Collberg barely played in the SEL. He barely saw any ice time. He was the youngest player on Frolunda - by far - and he is still undersized. Against players his own age, and closer in size, he has played quite well.
He's the same as Tedenby. I mean, look. There were a **** TON on here mad we didn't get Tedenby in his draft year. How's that worked out?

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What makes you think that drafting a forward at 28 this year was going to help us win the Stanley Cup next season?

No player drafted outside of the top 10 in this draft will play in the NHL next season...this year's pick has no bearing on what the Rangers will do during the 2012-2013 season.
Just the whole idea of taking another defenseman shows no desire to change what brought us down in the playoffs.

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Kings got the biggest boom or bust pick in Pearson.

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Devils must have really liked Matteau. They have to give up a pick within the next two years, when they'll surely be picking higher.

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Just the whole idea of taking another defenseman shows no desire to change what brought us down in the playoffs.
There are other ways to address needs then to draft a player that won't have an impact for 3+ years.

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For the record, I would've rather traded the pick for help at forward.

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Are you kidding? You don't address anything in the draft. You go BPA. I mean, how difficult is that to get for some of you guys? This is BPA for the Rangers. They don't draft for need.
No, especially when you're going after Schultz, and Sauer, McIlrath, and Erixon in the system, you stay away from defensemen.

Terrible pick. I'll gladly eat my words if otherwise, but Matteau and Collberg were both available, as well as Kerdiles.

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The Rangers had a name plate ready for Skjei at #28. How often does that happen? They obviously were quite high on him. Dude skates like the wind and is 6'3.

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Just the whole idea of taking another defenseman shows no desire to change what brought us down in the playoffs.
Said another way, taking a defenseman shows a desire to reinforce the team principles that brought us to the conference championship this year.

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Was looking at 4 guys at our pick--Collberg, Thrower, Finn and Skjei--in no particular order. No problem taking Sjei--it's another size, skating combination--not altogether unlike Kreider.

I'm of the school that you can never have enough good defensemen or enough toughness. This is more about the first than the second but even so if the guy is a naturally gifted skater with that kind of size he's a player that should be something.

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something I'll never understand-

one guy on an internet message board telling another guy on an internet message board how much less of an internet nerd he is than the other guy.

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Just some names I'd like in the 3rd round or later for tomorrow:

Austin Czarnik
Zach Stepan
Quentin Shore
Nikita Gusev
Anton Zlobin
Josh Anderson

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Just the whole idea of taking another defenseman shows no desire to change what brought us down in the playoffs.
Doesnt them being in talks for Staal, Ryan and Nash say otherwise?

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Devils must have really liked Matteau. They have to give up a pick within the next two years, when they'll surely be picking higher.
Many of their fans are over their chest bumping over how they "stuck it to the Rangers" by grabbing Matteau. That might have more weight if the Rangers didn't literally pass on him one pick earlier. Very glad we didn't go with Matteau, and I really like the fact that we went D in this D heavy draft.

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Just the whole idea of taking another defenseman shows no desire to change what brought us down in the playoffs.
At 28 I'd much rather see them pick the player with the best chance of success, regardless of position.

And how can you say there is no desire to change what brought us down in the playoffs? Sather has spent the last two days (and probably more) trying to trade for Jordan Staal, Rick Nash or Bobby Ryan.

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Said another way, taking a defenseman shows a desire to reinforce the team principles that brought us to the conference championship this year.
Touche!

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Then get a job in the league with all your vast array of knowledge rather than sit here yapping endless **** post after post.

Not picking for need isnt the same thing as picking to your [supposed] strength.

Im not opening an italian restaurant in Nolita... know why? There's 1000 already there. Ill open one somewhere else... cuz that makes sense.

As I already said. If it pans out, fine, if it doesnt, then oh well.

Post 10 more times about it though, Im out, having actual things to do than bro-down on the interwebs in my mom's basement.
Yeah. I'm in a basement right now.

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06-22-2012, 11:00 PM
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For the record, I would've rather traded the pick for help at forward.
Me too, but if the deal wasn't there, than the deal wasn't there.

I don't get all the concern over taking a defenseman. At 28th, you take the guy that's highest on your board, no matter what position he plays. No one drafts for need at the end of the first round. Oh, and by the way... continuing to develop defenseman is the one thing that will keep our team competitive for Lundqvist's entire career. You can never have too many talented D in the system.

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There are other ways to address needs then to draft a player that won't have an impact for 3+ years.
Well I'd like to see it. I was ok with standing pat before the Pens and Caps went *******. Now something needs to be done.

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for what team???? what makes you say that??
Sathers already made confirmed offers for Nash and Staal, with reported interest in Radulov and Ryan.

Then he drafts a d-man a week before he makes an offer to Schultz?

Writings on the wall.

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For the record, I would've rather traded the pick for help at forward.
Yep. Totally agreed.


btw, anyone watching the stream that's showing the TSN crew still talking while the cameras are off the air?

They are talking about a rumor about Yandle to Pittsburgh being BS and some stuff about scouts and stuff...pretty interesting.

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My stream is showing the TSN crew offline, but they apparently just shot down a Yandle to Pitt trade.

Also there was something about Pierre's car.

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I don't care about 3 years from now. I care about winning the Cup next year and right now it looks like the Rangers don't really seem to care if that happens. Other teams are improving left and right and we're "staying the course".
Almost none of the players that were drafted today will play in the NHL next year. Which teams improved? ****sberg with a 32 point Sutter instead of Staal? The devils, who will probably lose Parise?

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