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06-22-2012, 11:53 PM
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anyone else reminded of Hodgson from Guance? although Gaunce obviously isn't as good offensively
Not even close. Gaunce apparently is very good at both ends of the ice, good size, good on faceoffs, etc. Gaunce seems like a much better all around player while Hodgson is the more talented of the two.

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Am I the only one who has no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at? So there's what Gaunce himself, his mom hugging him, his sister/girlfriend or whatever, a chick with a strong chin on the background... okay...
I hadn't even noticed that before but am LOL'ing now...

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I don't understand why people are sort of on the fence with this one (the sentiment I get from some of you). I really like this pick. BPA? Check. Positional Need? Check.

Who on the board has a higher potential? Samuelsson? That's very questionable. Sissons like some of you wanted? Not even questionable, flat out no. Gaunce's high end potential is a 2nd line center. Maybe not an elite one, but definitely a solid two-way centerman. However, I am confident he will be a 3C in the near future.

You guys complain over and over again about how we don't have young guys on ELCs in our lineup. This is a guy that can step in much sooner than Jensen or Schroeder or Hodgson has because of his defense, hockey sense, his physical development and his ability to move into a 3C role. Also, as per Kirk Leudeke, he can play wing as well.

My main concern is not his skating, its his no show at the U18s, something no one here has talked about. He was grilled about it by the Sens in their meeting with him, he botched that answer, by saying i don't know and shrugging.

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Gaunce has been incredibly consistent this year and brings everything to the table that you'd want in a center. Size (check). Uses his size (check). Plays both ends of the ice (check). Great hands (check). Offensive feel for the game (check). I could go on. One of the more underrated aspects of Brendan's game is his big shot. Man can this guy shoot the puck. When the Top Prospect's Game skills competition results get released, don't be surprised to see him near the top of the list of the hardest shot. The one drawback I keep hearing about Gaunce is his skating. It's true, he's not the fastest guy on the ice. But he's efficient. His brother Cameron was a worse skater when he was drafted, and he managed to improve his footwork a lot over his OHL career. No reason to think that Brendan can't.
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Gaunce is a great decision maker both with the puck on his stick as well as away from the puck on the defensive end of the ice. He has an extremely hard and accurate shot which has the ability to find its way to the net through traffic. Gaunce could very well develop into a player who will be on the ice at all points of the game and never look out of place.
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06-22-2012, 11:55 PM
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Sounds like a more offensively gifted Sami Pahlsson.

Or maybe our future Bolland?
You couldn't be more off base with that assumption. A more offensively gifted Pahlsson is not anything close to Pahlsson because he is a defensive specialist. A player like you supposed would be Patrice Bergeron which is not a very good comparison either.

Dave Bolland is 180 pounds, he is 26 years old. Brendan Gaunce is 210 pounds, he is 18. Size alone would deem your comparison very, very, very, for lack of a better word, wrong.

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Either way, Gaunce will be a solid NHL'er for us, IMO, barring career ending injury. He has the ability to become a solid 2C for us, or become a Jordan Staal like 3C (I'd be pretty happy with this).

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Also, Gaunce isn't a dirty rat. The Bolland Comparison should be thrown out the window.

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06-22-2012, 11:59 PM
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I don't understand why people are sort of on the fence with this one (the sentiment I get from some of you). I really like this pick. BPA? Check. Positional Need? Check.

Who on the board has a higher potential? Samuelsson? That's very questionable. Sissons like some of you wanted? Not even questionable, flat out no. Gaunce's high end potential is a 2nd line center. Maybe not an elite one, but definitely a solid two-way centerman. However, I am confident he will be a 3C in the near future.

You guys complain over and over again about how we don't have young guys on ELCs in our lineup. This is a guy that can step in much sooner than Jensen or Schroeder or Hodgson has because of his defense, hockey sense, his physical development and his ability to move into a 3C role. Also, as per Kirk Leudeke, he can play wing as well.

My main concern is not his skating, its his no show at the U18s, something no one here has talked about. He was grilled about it by the Sens in their meeting with him, he botched that answer, by saying i don't know and shrugging.
Yeah I don't get the concern. Gaunce has none of the warning signs that would say his offensive abilites are greatly exaggerated. He scored most of his goals at ES, he vastly out produced his teammates on a bad offensive team as a 17 year old, and all the scouting reports say he has excellent hockey sense.

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You couldn't be more off base with that assumption. A more offensively gifted Pahlsson is not anything close to Pahlsson because he is a defensive specialist. A player like you supposed would be Patrice Bergeron which is not a very good comparison either.

Dave Bolland is 180 pounds, he is 26 years old. Brendan Gaunce is 210 pounds, he is 18. Size alone would deem your comparison very, very, very, for lack of a better word, wrong.
I'm trying to find a comparable playing style that plays in the NHL, not an exact replica. What does age have to do with anything? Did you want me to compare him to the other drafted players that have yet played in the big leagues?

So he's a strong, hard to knock off, two way player with offensive flair?

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You couldn't be more off base with that assumption. A more offensively gifted Pahlsson is not anything close to Pahlsson because he is a defensive specialist. A player like you supposed would be Patrice Bergeron which is not a very good comparison either.

Dave Bolland is 180 pounds, he is 26 years old. Brendan Gaunce is 210 pounds, he is 18. Size alone would deem your comparison very, very, very, for lack of a better word, wrong.
It's hard to think of a comparable for Gaunce, really. Jordan Staal is a good one, but I don't think Gaunce's ceiling is as high as where Staal is at now.

I'd say there are comparables with Ryan O'Reilly aside from Gaunce's willingness to go to the dirty areas and O'Reilly being a bit more of a perimeter player. Gaunce has better size and O'Reilly might be quicker, but both have very good intangibles and neither have an elite scoring touch.

I'd say Gaunce is a mash up of O'Reilly and Jordan Staal, but a bit less skilled.

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Another great thing about Gaunce is his pedigree. Drafted 2nd overall in the OHL entry draft in 2010. Basically leading to, he's been dominant through out his hockey career.

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I'm trying to find a comparable playing style that plays in the NHL, not an exact replica. What does age have to do with anything? Did you want me to compare him to the other drafted players that have yet played in the big leagues?

So he's a strong, hard to knock off, two way player with offensive flair?
You can still grow when you're 18. It is very rare to put on weight when you are in your mid-late twenties, not to mention Bolland has always been small, he was also an offensive dynamo in the CHL. Perhaps you should leave the comparing to people who actually watch this sport. You're quite clearly out to lunch on this one. Please if it was such a funny assertion by me to post age and weight, tell me how a 6'2, 210 lbs 18 year old is even remotely close to the same player as a barely 6', 180 lbs 26 year old.


Based on your logic, Nugent-Hopkins is the second coming of Rick Nash.

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Not even close. Gaunce apparently is very good at both ends of the ice, good size, good on faceoffs, etc. Gaunce seems like a much better all around player while Hodgson is the more talented of the two.
I'm guessing u forgot Hodgson was also very good at both ends of the ice and on faceoffs in the OHL as well?

The only difference I think is Hodgson has better hands while Gaunce has better size to help him fight off defenders to offset that

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It's hard to think of a comparable for Gaunce, really.
Sounds like RJ Umberger.

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It's hard to think of a comparable for Gaunce, really. Jordan Staal is a good one, but I don't think Gaunce's ceiling is as high as where Staal is at now.

I'd say there are comparables with Ryan O'Reilly aside from Gaunce's willingness to go to the dirty areas and O'Reilly being a bit more of a perimeter player. Gaunce has better size and O'Reilly might be quicker, but both have very good intangibles and neither have an elite scoring touch.

I'd say Gaunce is a mash up of O'Reilly and Jordan Staal, but a bit less skilled.
Jarret Stoll looked a lot like this when he was drafted. Decent size, good two-way player, somewhat physical, less-than-perfect skating, good but not elite offensive tools, shows up for the big games.

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This is a guy that can step in much sooner than Jensen or Schroeder or Hodgson has because of his defense, hockey sense, his physical development and his ability to move into a 3C role.
Every year I hear that the newest first rounder is NHL ready, and every year they aren't. Wasn't Schroeder projected to be one of the most NHL ready of his draft? I remember hearing how Jensen was ready last training camp as well. Until they actually make the NHL I don't consider them ready.

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It's hard to think of a comparable for Gaunce, really. Jordan Staal is a good one, but I don't think Gaunce's ceiling is as high as where Staal is at now.

I'd say there are comparables with Ryan O'Reilly aside from Gaunce's willingness to go to the dirty areas and O'Reilly being a bit more of a perimeter player. Gaunce has better size and O'Reilly might be quicker, but both have very good intangibles and neither have an elite scoring touch.

I'd say Gaunce is a mash up of O'Reilly and Jordan Staal, but a bit less skilled.
Agreed, which is why I didn't state who I thought he compared well to. But if I had to I might go with someone like RJ Umberger.

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Sounds like RJ Umberger.
Beat me to it.

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An ass so firm that if she squeezed a lump a coal it would turn into a diamond.

(of course now all I can see is that chin)
She seems to be on the older side so maybe I understand the fascination. FIgures.

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This pick seems like the exact opposite of Schroeder. At his draft Schroeder was the little guy with huge boom or bust potential and the ability to never play in the NHL or to end up being a massive steal. Gaunce seems like the kind of guy you know will be a steady player for you at the NHL level because of his intangibles and solid play at both ends and the kind of guy that if he progresses into your top 6 is a bonus.

I'm liking what I'm reading about Gaunce.

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He sounds like he's pretty NHL ready once he works on his speed a bit. He won't be rushed, but it's nice to know we have guys like Jensen and now Gaunce that aren't huge projects (JANKOWSKI). Sounds like he doesn't project as highly as some others in the draft, but he seems like a very safe, solid pick. I like the decision...Add size up the middle with a guy that is defensively responsible and has intangibles. His shot is a strength, too, so who knows, if he improves his skating he could end up exceeding expectations in terms of his scoring.

If he develops into a 20-25G 30A type player who provides size up the middle and is defensively responsible I'll be very happy with this pick. Again, it seems really safe which I'm happy with.
Would Zajac be a good comparable? Heck, maybe he'll be like Henrique.

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Help me out here. Are we talking Hodgson draft level skating or better?

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Every year I hear that the newest first rounder is NHL ready, and every year they aren't. Wasn't Schroeder projected to be one of the most NHL ready of his draft? I remember hearing how Jensen was ready last training camp as well. Until they actually make the NHL I don't consider them ready.
If they have already made the NHL, wouldn't they have made it and not be considered "ready"?

Schroeder was NHL ready in terms of his build, he was and is built like a house. But was he ready in terms of work ethic or all around game? No.

Jensen had an impressive camp, for sure. But i saw a forward at least 2 years away, and i remember posting about that too. Most were projecting 3 years away at the draft, even this scouting report (http://thehockeywriters.com/the-next...he-great-dane/) Watching Jensen in the AHL, there definitely needs to be strides defensively before he cracks our roster to be a regular. So no, Jensen was not "NHL ready" at the draft.

Now compare Brendan Gaunce (http://thehockeywriters.com/brendan-...ile-built-nhl/). ETA: 1 year. And i agree, having watched both. Gaunce can step into the NHL faster.

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Would Zajac be a good comparable? Heck, maybe he'll be like Henrique.

I don't think he's comparable to Henrique at all. Maybe a bit to Zajac, but I think Zajac is more talented.

Umberger is a pretty good comparable, although I feel Gaunce has the potential to be a bit more of a difference maker than RJ.

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Am I the only one who has no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at? So there's what Gaunce himself, his mom hugging him, his sister/girlfriend or whatever, a chick with a strong chin on the background... okay...
Jay Leno in drag.

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You can still grow when you're 18. It is very rare to put on weight when you are in your mid-late twenties, not to mention Bolland has always been small, he was also an offensive dynamo in the CHL. Perhaps you should leave the comparing to people who actually watch this sport. You're quite clearly out to lunch on this one. Please if it was such a funny assertion by me to post age and weight, tell me how a 6'2, 210 lbs 18 year old is even remotely close to the same player as a barely 6', 180 lbs 26 year old.


Based on your logic, Nugent-Hopkins is the second coming of Rick Nash.
I'm not debating of there age or height or w.e. I'm debating on playing styles like how they compared his style to Jordan Staal. I'm asking people here for a more accurate style. You're telling me someone with different measurements can't play a similar game? Do they have to have the exact same weight, height and girth for you to feel better? And when I mentioned Pahlsson, and etc I was asking if that was an accurate guess, I wasn't trying to be an expert so don't put **** in my mouth.


You completely missed the ball on this one man you're arguing something that wasn't even in discussion.

To everyone else would Paul Gaustad be an appropriate guess?

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What a steal to get him where we did, this guy was almost cracking the Top-10 halfway through the year. His big body and two-way game should help us in our bottom 6, and maybe he can flourish into a Top 6 Center in his prime.

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