Umberger was considered an excellent skater and transition player when he was drafted - his size/skating/nationality drew a few comparisons to a poor man's Modano.
Gaunce probably projects as a Brooks Laich-type player if he turns out. Big, average-skating, hard-working #2/3 45-50 point center.
Looking at his skating and shot, he looks a lot like Laich did with Seattle back in the day.
I'm not debating of there age or height or w.e. I'm debating on playing styles like how they compared his style to Jordan Staal. I'm asking people here for a more accurate style. You're telling me someone with different sizes can't play a similar game? Do they have to have the exact same weight, height and girth for you to feel better? And when I mentioned Pahlsson, and etc I was asking if that was an accurate guess, I wasn't trying to be an expert so don't put **** in my mouth.
You completely missed the ball on this one man you're arguing something that wasn't even in discussion.
To everyone else would Paul Gaustad be an appropriate guess?
I would say think:
Brain/Hands of Ryan O'Reilly (smart, good playmaker, decent shot, not amazing hands).
Defense/Physicality of Jordan Staal (good at both ends of the ice, physical, not afraid to go to the dirty areas).
With questionable, but not terrible skating.
Comparables, obviously, so I'm obviously not saying you're taking the best parts of Staal and O'Reilly, putting them together and making a surefire star. Just in terms of raw talents, I see it something like that.
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Gaunce probably projects as a Brooks Laich-type player if he turns out. Big, average-skating, hard-working #2/3 45-50 point center.
I thought of Laich as a comparable, but I'd say Gaunce's two-way game projects better.
I'm not debating of there age or height or w.e. I'm debating on playing styles like how they compared his style to Jordan Staal. I'm asking people here for a more accurate style. You're telling me someone with different measurements can't play a similar game? Do they have to have the exact same weight, height and girth for you to feel better? And when I mentioned Pahlsson, and etc I was asking if that was an accurate guess, I wasn't trying to be an expert so don't put **** in my mouth.
You completely missed the ball on this one man you're arguing something that wasn't even in discussion.
To everyone else would Paul Gaustad be an appropriate guess?
No. I want to say Brandon Sutter but even Sutter is so young. Maybe a Brooks Laich? Maybe Berglund? Andrew Ladd? Just a few guys that have some similar qualities. Atleast in my opinion.
I'm not debating of there age or height or w.e. I'm debating on playing styles like how they compared his style to Jordan Staal. I'm asking people here for a more accurate style. You're telling me someone with different measurements can't play a similar game? Do they have to have the exact same weight, height and girth for you to feel better? And when I mentioned Pahlsson, and etc I was asking if that was an accurate guess, I wasn't trying to be an expert so don't put **** in my mouth.
You completely missed the ball on this one man you're arguing something that wasn't even in discussion.
To everyone else would Paul Gaustad be an appropriate guess?
Maybe the problem is you dont know who Dave Bolland is or what his play style is. Let me help you, he is a small forward who is an agitator, is very good defensively and can help chip in offensively.
If Dave Bolland had Gaunce's size, he would be a top 10 player in the league. So yes, size is very crucial.
edit: have a good night man, glad we could discuss hockey on a hockey forum, it was such a pleasure.
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Brain/Hands of Ryan O'Reilly (smart, good playmaker, decent shot, not amazing hands).
Defense/Physicality of Jordan Staal (good at both ends of the ice, physical, not afraid to go to the dirty areas).
With questionable, but not terrible skating.
Comparables, obviously, so I'm obviously not saying you're taking the best parts of Staal and O'Reilly, putting them together and making a surefire star. Just in terms of raw talents, I see it something like that.
I thought of Laich as a comparable, but I'd say Gaunce's two-way game projects better.
Thank you CCF23.
Seems like I'm limiting his full potential. What's the likelihood of him fulfilling it? Basing this off of HFs prospect 'grading'? 7.0 C?
For the record I don't know anything about Gaunce. Just read his skillset today, and saw some videos.
Gaunce was a great pick for you guys. At worst he's a big, bottom-six centre who has a never-ending motor and can chip in 30-40 points.
Ideally, he's Ryan Kesler 2.0. Size, speed, scoring, tenacity.
No speed (yet) unfortunately, but we have high hopes. Thanks for the compliment. I think you guys made the right decision to take Nail, as at the end of the day you have more asset value to move around to fill your needs.
Cheers.
Maybe the problem is you dont know who Dave Bolland is or what his play style is. Let me help you, he is a small forward who is an agitator, is very good defensively and can help chip in offensively.
If Dave Bolland had Gaunce's size, he would be a top 10 player in the league. So yes, size is very crucial.
edit: have a good night man, glad we could discuss hockey on a hockey forum, it was such a pleasure.
His skating is below average according to all the scouting reports
It looks like his high end speed is fine. It's his first step and lateral that need work. But good to hear that his brother's skating was worse than where Brendan's is at currently, and Cameron managed to improve quite a bit through his junior career.
Seems like I'm limiting his full potential. What's the likelihood of him fulfilling it? Basing this off of HFs prospect 'grading'? 7.0 C?
I would say a lower base with a higher chance of reaching it, but HF has Schroeder listed as a 7.0C so it's kind of screwy.
I would say 6.5B, but I would change the letter grade rating so B means should reach potential, could go up or down one point.
So essentially he should be a 2nd/3rd line tweener with good intangibles with the potential to be a very good 2nd liner if he exceeds expectations or an average 3rd liner if he falls a bit short of expectations.
I would say a lower base with a higher chance of reaching it, but HF has Schroeder listed as a 7.0C so it's kind of screwy.
I would say 6.5B, but I would change the letter grade rating so B means should reach potential, could go up or down one point.
So essentially he should be a 2nd/3rd line tweener with good intangibles with the potential to be a very good 2nd liner if he exceeds expectations or an average 3rd liner if he falls a bit short of expectations.
6.5B would be selling him short if you compare him to other prospects.
No. I want to say Brandon Sutter but even Sutter is so young. Maybe a Brooks Laich? Maybe Berglund? Andrew Ladd? Just a few guys that have some similar qualities. Atleast in my opinion.
A player with Brandon Sutters qualities would be great to have. Apparently he's one the most ready prospects in the draft?
Apparently his top end speed is pretty good but his acceleration and agility are his main drawbacks which is pretty common with bigger players but can be improved.
Am I the only one who has no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at? So there's what Gaunce himself, his mom hugging him, his sister/girlfriend or whatever, a chick with a strong chin on the background... okay...
pass it to bulis @passittobulis
gillis: "everything about [gaunce] is good. Good parents, good potential, good leadership." parents? Well, i guess after the hodgsons...
